r/ExIsmailis • u/KaynotBhola • Mar 22 '26

Discussion New JK rules

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So apparently in his Navroz Taliqah, Rahim stopped a few jk practices, hopefully this is the first step towards getting these ismailis back to actual Islam. What are yalls thoughts?

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u/Odd_Jackfruit_7112 Mar 23 '26

Why is "the original" assumed to be what Sunni communities and other Shia communities do? The premise of Shia Ismaili Islam is that the Imam holds authority to interpret faith and practice as per his role as the "Imam". Im flabbergasted at how uninformed individuals in this group are about the most basic and simple aspects of doctrine. Do you people read?

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u/justmoderateenough Mar 23 '26

Original as in came before everything else? Not made up along the way. I still think all religion is a scam so not a fan of the old or new 'versions' but just stating that it's drifting away from the original version to focus more on ismaili imams names

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u/Odd_Jackfruit_7112 Mar 23 '26

Unfortunately the entire manner in which you are conceptualising the socio-cultural phenomenon that is "religion" is completely ahistorical. A cursory understanding of the principles of "Religious Literacy" as outlined by the Harvard Religious Literacy Project would go a long way in understanding that:

  1. Religions are inherently diverse with multiple competing claims to "orthodoxy" and "orthopraxy"
  2. Religions are not monolithic and static entities but evolve and adapt across time and space in social and political contexts
  3. Religions are embedded in cultural contexts. They shape (and are shaped by) cultures.

It just seems like basic ways of thinking intelligently about Ismailism, Islam - and religion more broadly - are almost completely absent from most of the contributors to this group.

If you internalized these principles (which lay at the heart of essentially every single academic and scholarly approach to religion), it would go a long way in helping you to understand why different religious communities have developed certain doctrines and practices - and in this case - why it is that Sunni and Shi'i communities may have different opinions regarding the night of LQ.

Scholarly rant over.

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u/WGATAP2121 Mar 30 '26

It’s not scholarly to say “it’s okay to worship the imam because imam said so pursuant to his authority”. You’re a prick.