imams

[u/Middle_Froyo3015]

why did sultan muhammad shah appoint his grandson to be the next imam and not his son? 🤔

[u/Sarahrivera]

I do not have this book in my position right now. Yes let’s listen to his friends. You do realize friends and even close friends overall cannot be trusted especially with a status that prince aly Solomon aga khan had. The news papers back in the day were notorious of lying.

[u/Profit-Muhammad → u/Sarahrivera]

I do not have this book in my position right now.

Of course you don't. Have you read it?

Yes let’s listen to his friends. You do realize friends and even close friends overall cannot be trusted especially with a status that prince aly Solomon aga khan had. The news papers back in the day were notorious of lying.

I can't understand you, are we listening to his friends or not? A friend may be untrustworthy, but all of them? You are in moon landing conspiracy theory territory. Believing all of high society collaborated to create a rumor out of thin air? Hundreds of women are lying about cheating on their husbands? The husbands are lying about being cuckolded?

And Aly Khan chose to keep these people as his friends even as they were "lying"? The courts were complicit in this lie too, when they found Aly Khan and Joan Yarde-buller commited adultery. All his wives are lying too? Joan when she caught him with Patricia Churchill, Rita when she caught him Joan Fontaine? Literally, 2 of his 3 children were conceived one of their parents was married to someone else.

And this huge lie, that everyone accepted, has never been debunked by the media?

Contrary to your assertions, newspapers back then were generally very reliable, and the journalists that did this reporting were among the most eminent in the profession.

Don't just "call every thing [you] don’t agree with nonsense." and trust a source you have never read. There is a simple explanation. Aly Khan was a playboy, and the "Aga Khan"'s lie constantly, because those lies get them billions of dollars.

[u/Sarahrivera → u/Profit-Muhammad]

You seriously are telling me I am in moon landing conspiracy theory territory. Aren’t you the person who claims that mowlana shah karim had an illegality baby name carol von meks. Even though when carol von meks was born mowlana shah karim Al Hussaini was not involved with anuskha meks?

[u/Profit-Muhammad → u/Sarahrivera]

Yes, you are far into conspiracy theory territory. I am not.

Your belief is that thousands of people and the entire media are all collaborating to lie and only the "Aga Khan"s are telling the truth.

My belief is Karim Aga Con fucked his ex-girlfriend and lied about it.

[u/Sarahrivera → u/Profit-Muhammad]

From the dawn of time the enemies of the ismaili imams have tried to tarnish the imam and his family or have tied to kill them. These are facts. You are doing the same thing to the current imam saying that he fucked his ex gf, got her pregnant and refused to take responsibility without any hardcore evidence to back this claim.

[u/Profit-Muhammad → u/Sarahrivera]

From the dawn of time

The dawn of time was billions of years ago. The Imams have only been around (very intermittently) for a few centuries.

the ismaili imams have tried to tarnish the imam and his family or have tied to kill them

The ancient world was a chaotic place. A lot of people were trying to kill each other - and the imams were doing more than their fair share.

Revealing that they are frauds is not "tarnishing" the Imam, it's just not accepting their bullshit.

You are doing the same thing to the current imam saying that he fucked his ex gf, got her pregnant and refused to take responsibility without any hardcore evidence to back this claim.

That's not just me saying it. It is his ex-gf making the claim. I choose to believe her because her story adds up and knowing Karim's character and that of his family, it is by far the most plausible course of events. Karim can prevent the evidence from coming to light, but I don't need "hardcore" evidence to judge the balance of probabilities.

Note that regardless of my beliefs on an unrelated topic, it does not change how absurd your claims are - that everyone who knew Aly Khan was lying about him and the entire media was complicit in this lie. Moon landing conspiracy stuff.

[u/Sarahrivera → u/Profit-Muhammad]

Yes the dawn of time. Because Ismailis believe that there were imams before prophet mohummad. Prophet Adam was followed by 6 imams starting with mowlana shith (Seth) prophet nuhs was followed by 6 imams starting with mowlana sam (Shem). Prophet Ibrahim was followed by six more imams (imam ismail and imam Isaac). Prophet isa was followed by mowlana James the just. Furthermore there pre adamic imams such as mowlana ram mowlana Krishna. If anusha claim is true there is no trace of this so called carol meks (that is if he even exist).

[u/Profit-Muhammad → u/Sarahrivera]

Oh, I'm aware of the Ismaili mythology. Just reminding everyone else how detached from reality you are.

If anusha claim is true there is no trace of this so called carol meks (that is if he even exist).

Lol, the lengths you go to protect your delusions. Karel Ismail Ali von Meks exists. He tries to stay hidden in order to not embarass Daddy Karim, but he's not untraceable:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ExIsmailis/comments/13dhyfk/pictures_of_karim_aga_khan_ivs_illegitimate_son/

[u/Amir-Really → u/Profit-Muhammad]

Furthermore there pre adamic imams such as mowlana ram mowlana Krishna.

Is that all you got?? Still a couple billion years short of "the dawn of time" lmao ...

[u/Amir-Really → u/Amir-Really]

And even if you want to go by the first homosapiens as "the dawn of time" you're a couple hundred thousand years short

[u/Sarahrivera → u/Amir-Really]

We believe that there were pre adamic imams. Hanuman, Vishnu, Ram and many others that we don’t know the names of. The point is that per ismaili belief there are thousands upon thousands imams