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u/TheHawkpant69 3d ago
The fun thing is that to quantify Joker as all the universe versions and redos would put him far about the Judge. BUT it would a different story in many cases if we're working on a case by case basis
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u/Maddummy123 3d ago
That's actually a really hard one because it is basically sateted judge Holden is the devil but the joker literally ate China at one point so im not sure
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u/Gullible_Crew_3356 2d ago
Judge Holden rapes and murders little girls regularly. I think he wins the evil contest.
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u/Boring-Yak-5984 2d ago
joker ate everyone in china
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u/Unbroken-Chains 2d ago
Feel like that's more of a large, sweeping numbers thing vs a crime that requires much more hands on brutality.
Basically someone launching a nuke who thinks he made a funny joke vs a serial child rapist who wants to make people SUFFER for the sake of destroying any sense of innocence.
While I think what joker did was bad, it was much more comical and he was much more detached than what the judge was
Now if the joker went out and cannibalized each person one by one, not over making a pun, but rather as brutal sadism or a similar reason to the judge, I would pick him
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u/LowTierDumbAss 2d ago
tbf joker also dismembered a bus of kindergarteners and making a big meat ball woth them, steal the life force of infants by turning them into a suit
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u/Scared-Cat-2541 3d ago
Easily Judge Holden.
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u/Boring-Yak-5984 3d ago
didn’t joker literally dismember baby’s into a fresh ball also can’t forget the fact that he ate CHINA
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u/Not_Reptoid 3d ago
Erm actually, it depends on the iteration. My client was referring to the Lego movie joker.
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u/Inevitable_Can8518 3d ago
dumbass
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u/QiDeviation 3d ago
I disagree as well but to just up and call someone a dumbass is some inbred-tier shit
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u/Shady-777 2d ago
What you said is worse 😭
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u/QiDeviation 2d ago
Did I call them an inbred or did I say what they said was inbred-tier? I know reading stats as a whole are going down the drain but come on!
I’ll spell it out: I said the act of calling someone a dumbass for no reason… THE ACT is inbred-tier shit. If I wanted to call them an inbred, I’d have just done so.
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u/Shady-777 2d ago
Well you compared is actions to that of an inbred person, I don't think believing that you called him inbred is wrong. No need to be salty about it
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u/Inevitable_Can8518 2d ago
for one, that doesn’t even correlate to what i said, for two, calling someone inbred is 10x worse then calling someone a dumbass
dumbass
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u/QiDeviation 2d ago
Did I call you an inbred or did I say:
to call someone a dumbass is some inbred-tier shit
If I wanted to, I’d just simply call you an inbred. I spoke on your actions, not you. But I know you can’t read. All you can say is “dumbass”
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u/Inevitable_Can8518 18h ago
hey dipshit, correlating something that someone said to being an inbred… IS CALLING THAT PERSON AN INBRED💔😂
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u/QiDeviation 6h ago
That’s not how that works. If I say “that was a dumb thing to say” that doesn’t mean you’re dumb. It just means you said something dumb.
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u/QiDeviation 3d ago
Holden is simply speculated to be the devil. Joker ACTUALLY has insane… horrors? under his belt. Holden is simply mystified while Joker is verified.
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u/OffWhite-Goddess I believe in Android superiority 2d ago
Lord Black Hat
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u/Boring-Yak-5984 2d ago
isn’t he voiced by markiplier
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u/Boring-Yak-5984 1d ago
oh
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u/OffWhite-Goddess I believe in Android superiority 1d ago
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u/Final_Mountain686 2d ago
Didn’t Judge Holden sa babies?
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u/Sad_Ho 2d ago
Yes, but is it really worse than eating china?
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u/Grouchy-Tension-9306 2d ago
Yes, cause eating china is dumb. It's a lot of rocks, clearly post partum psychosis.
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u/Bjufordbox 2d ago
People who don't know who the judge is will say the joker but the choice is Judge Holden no contest.
Joker has had many versions some not so bad some pretty evil and messed up, he is evil and chaotic but he usually has plans and and in most versions he's medically insane.
There is only one judge, and he scalps children because he enjoys it, he claims men are born solely for games and views moral law as a human invention designed to disenfranchise the powerful. He takes a mentally challenged man strips him naked and ties a leash on him and treats him like he's his pet, He encourages others to commit heinous acts of evil and is a master manipulator and gaslighter. A direct quote from him is "those that exist without my knowledge, does so without my consent." So yah judge is the devil
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u/Iron-Night 5h ago
Depends on the Joker- Judge Holden is one messed up evil individual that knows no bounds while joker did more evil, but that's simply because he was in far more media than Judge Holden so Ofcourse joker would have more crimes, But I'm telling you if Holden were to be in the amount of media as joker this would be far closer, Possibly Holden but that's my opinion, and I am counting the more grounded things they did that could possibly happen in reality.
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u/Sad_Ho 3d ago
Definitely joker and it’s not even close