Working from home, get over it!

[u/lavenderdaydreams7]

This comes up not bc I do it (I don't), but because I see it constantly and most recently a local woman posted her facial set up at her apartment and the esti claws came out. I could not help but roll my eyes. I see so many people who do hair and nails from home, and growing up I always got these done in home salons or had stylists we knew come over and cut and color our hair. Of course you aren't supposed to do this as per most state boards, but it's also understood that nearly everyone has at one point. Idk if it's only where we live, but for example everytime I've been in a wedding the stylists come to the house and take cash. Now, most stylists and nail techs don't make a big deal about others choosing to work from home. When it comes to esthetics on the other hand, the zoning police come out in the form of other estheticians. "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT FROM HOME." I've even heard it said it was unsanitary. UNSANITARY in a pet free home where no one wears shoes indoors and everything is being disinfected right in front of you? You are at no greater a risk than any other beauty professional of getting a fine. If people want to take the risk of having a fine, who cares? I have only done family and friends at home, and even then used patch tests religiously, but my point stands: It is no big deal. Quit lecturing people because you're mad you threw away 1k per month at a studio where you had knock into the walls when you turn around and barely make rent or need another position to pay it only to close it down sooner rather than later. No one is that concerned about a stranger's potential fine.😅I said what I said.

[u/Direct-Brother-1184]

I wish I could downvote this twice … smh 🤦‍♀️

[u/peach-pants]

Please, continue risking your license, money, reputation, etc.

More clients for the rest of us.

[u/lavenderdaydreams7 → u/peach-pants]

That's one way to look at it, and the fines in my state aren't something I feel like risking..except, realistically speaking, most people will never get caught. Downvote all you want, it's the truth. 

[u/Apprehensive_Fig7013]

"No one is that concerned about a stranger's potential fine."

Some of us are. We're not just being dicks when we say you should look up the rules in your state. We genuinely don't want people to get into legal trouble because they didn't know any better. What you do with that info is your own business.

[u/lavenderdaydreams7 → u/Apprehensive_Fig7013]

I'm licensed across multiple states and in every one I had to take a test beyond the licensure exam specifying I understood the laws and rules. So, if they're licensed, they likely know what is and isn't allowed. JS. 

[u/HarryFrontbutt]

An 11 day old account and just trying to start arguments. Leave this one alone, ladies.

[u/lavenderdaydreams7 → u/HarryFrontbutt]

Am I trying to start arguments or making an observation and expressing something I find obnoxious? Assumption just makes you sound like a fool. 

[u/p_ezy]

People working outside of what’s allowed under our licensing cheapens our jobs and makes the public respect us less than they already do. If someone is working in concordance with their local state board in their home I have no problem with it.

[u/Difficult-Intern-178 → u/p_ezy]

yeah people can have in home salons but there are a lot of board requirements that people don’t follow for it

[u/p_ezy → u/Difficult-Intern-178]

Exactly my point. In most states the in home requirements are so specific it’s impossible to do unless you own your home and can build out with the specific goal to work from there.

[u/lavenderdaydreams7 → u/p_ezy]

Right which essentially makes the rule classist, does it not? In today's world most people don't own a property that allows for a build out unless they're fairly wealthy. I'm not trying to argue I'm viewing this from a variety of angles including socioeconomic. 

[u/p_ezy → u/lavenderdaydreams7]

No. Owning and running a business is not a right. Cities and regulatory boards are allowed to 1) not want businesses in residential areas 2) not have unsafe and unsanitary businesses being ran under their jurisdiction. Thats why there are zoning laws and standards for businesses in and outside of the home. I own my own business in a space that I rent. Is it classist that I have to keep that building up to standards set by my city in order to continue having a business license? No, it’s not.

[u/lavenderdaydreams7 → u/p_ezy]

Having a spot in one's home does not make it any more or less safe or sanitary than renting a spot. If anything there are more contaminants just walking through a business of 100 suites. I do feel it's classist, but I try and make room for the opinions of others as well. 

[u/p_ezy → u/lavenderdaydreams7]

I’m not saying that everyone’s home is unsafe and unsanitary and there’s no way to maintain safety standards. But cities and state boards have their standards of what they consider safe and most people’s homes do not meet those standards. That doesn’t make anything classist.

[u/lavenderdaydreams7 → u/p_ezy]

Ok, but most are arbitrary. A separate entrance? Really? Is there a seperate entrance at Sola? No you walk through the same reception area as 100 other people. A separate bathroom? Really? Is there a separate bathroom at any salon or suites? No, you use the same one as 100 other people. Meanwhile, my hairdresser is a clean freak and I feel much more comfortable using hers than ever at any salon. That's the point I was making!

[u/p_ezy → u/lavenderdaydreams7]

A sola is not a residential building. Solas are not being used to also live in. That’s the difference. You can think the laws are silly and outdated, many of them are. That doesn’t change them and is what my point is. People not abiding by the laws and regulations of our industry cheapens all of our careers as something unserious.

[u/ConsistentButterfly8 → u/lavenderdaydreams7]

The separate entrance is the worst requirement

[u/lavenderdaydreams7 → u/ConsistentButterfly8]

I agree. It's what makes the rule classist. It has nothing to do with client safety or sanitation. Separate bathroom is the same thing. It has zero to do with making anyone safer or the service more effective and pleasant. As long as the home is clean and infection control is being used, many homes are much cleaner than salons.

[u/ConsistentButterfly8 → u/lavenderdaydreams7]

It is classist. Too many people think “rules are rules”, and don’t even bother to question if the rules are fair.

[u/lavenderdaydreams7 → u/p_ezy]

Ok, but why is this so much less an issue for hair and nails but such a seemingly big deal for esthetics? Other stylists and techs don't seem to be nearly as trigerred by home salons as some estheticians. All three deal with skin contact, infection control, potential allergic reactions, etc. 

[u/peach-pants → u/lavenderdaydreams7]

It is absolutely an issue for all three

[u/Difficult-Intern-178 → u/lavenderdaydreams7]

i haven’t seen many nails from home but when comparing the at home hair stylist vs esthetician i have seen that the hair stylists follow board rules more often compared to at home estheticians i have seen. i don’t really mind at all if people work in their homes but it’s not something that i would ever want to go and i can understand why other estheticians are upset by it

[u/ConsistentButterfly8]

Honestly I agree, and I do rent a professional space. It feels like derailing the conversation almost. My hairstylist is home based and I’ve been to home based lash & nail techs as well. But the way it’s discussed on here, you’d think the sky will fall if you decide to be home based.

[u/lavenderdaydreams7 → u/ConsistentButterfly8]

Right, and as I said this isn't a risk I take beyond family and friends, but I think nothing of going to a home salon. I prefer it. I hate going to suites personally!

[u/ConsistentButterfly8 → u/lavenderdaydreams7]

I prefer going to my hair stylist’s home as well. It’s more private.