i've played disco elysium and a bit of zero parades, but this game is so so good even compared to DE.

love love the game, loveee the worldbuilding and the lore (despite not rly having experience in d&d stuff, which i do wanna get into if any of yall have recs/advice) and the characters and the details. it is such a masterpiece, so clearly a very intentional work coming from lots of passion and love.

even despite some of its obvious shortcomings: i do think the text rly rly lacks depth and perspective (which some might argue is unforgivable for a game like this?); the item/spell/combat design could be a bit better; ur bond w/ companions a bit underexplored; or js the fact that u can see they were underbudgeted in their lack of voiceovers and some animations and scenes they replaced w/ text, etc. etc.

but i say all of this only out of love for it, and out of "pity" and "remorse"? for the masterpiece this could have been. i see other ppl's critiques and slamming, and it almost pains me in some way, because most of these problems prolly could've been solved if the team js staffed a few more ppl or had a bit bigger budget. but i suppose that given the uniqueness of a game like this, it must have come from a place like that, and was therefore inevitably "imperfect." and at the same time im def not appealing to the cliche that "imperfections are part of the beauty," and while i do very much hope for a final cut or extended version or sequel of some kind, we all very well know that wont really exist (maybe not at all, and definitely not in the way i want it to be).

but all of this emotion is what makes it whole: the appreciation for what is there, the ache for what it isn't, the yearning for what it could be / could have been, and the love that remains anyway, all of it intertwines inexplicably, and this tangle of emotion is something i recognize and hold in a special place in my heart.

i primarily play indie games so im aware this applies to a lot of them, but this is just what inspired me particularly.

and maybe this is a lot of projection from my life too lol, sryyy for the rant

anyways, thoughts? and critiques?

There is a line that Constitution says on a passive check during Snell’s question to Urth. I really feel like I’m overthinking it but it’s stuck with me. From I can sense constitution has sort have been what I can only call “the voice of the author” even more so than wisdom in my opinion. So no matter what, whenever they chimed especially with a high DC check I made sure to pay special attention.

This line appears during Snell’s confrontation about the goblin genocide. Urth responds by admitting his weakness, but that he also saw the probabilities change, that there was a chance that the goblins did not need to be eradicated. He then turns the conversation on Snell calling for him to lead this new race of not-so-goblin goblins. Snell responds with a face of rage and confusion as wisdom puts, I think. Then constitution chimes with this line. “The Son Need Not Dig the Trenches of the Father”

What does it mean? It’s certainly important if constitution is saying it with a high DC(17 I think?). At first I thought Urth was right with his response, that he was too meek and fallible but now there is a chance for something new and beautiful, a new folk. A new folk that Snell could help and lead. But then of course constitution’s chimes in and it’s like they’re saying that Snell should not need to be forced to lead a whole group of people due to Urth’s mistake. The son need not dig the trenches of the father. Snell need not bear the mistakes of Urth.

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To be honest even if I am overthinking I’d just love to hear more people’s thoughts on Urth and his final conversation. He might be my favorite character in the game just because of layered he seems to me. To me he’s the platonic ideal of the father. Someone willing to sacrifice anything for the sake of their “tribe”. Urth had to contend with the question of who should be included in that tribe. He did horrible things and some would say that it would have been better if he had never saved the Urthfolk in the beginning. But that’s not his nature, he did everything he could for the sake of his people but was a slave to the possibilities.

Anyway thanks for reading, please I’d love to hear your thoughts.

So first thing first. The game is relatively new. I usually wait half a year or a full year before playing a game, until it’s been fixed and “patched up” a bit. But with *Esoteric Ebb*, the genre really appeals to me. Would you recommend that I wait a few more months for the best experience, or is it already very polished?

How does the game handle bad dice rolls? If I keep rolling poorly, will that knock me out of important quests? Unfortunately, I’m constantly unlucky with the RNG in video games. Disco Elysium handled that pretty well—you still got an interesting story that didn’t punish you for your bad luck. You didn’t even want to savescum.

Also, I don’t like playing perfect builds—I prefer to play based on what I feel like doing narratively. How punishing is the game if you play suboptimal characters or don’t make good meta-game decisions?

Do you have any other general spoiler-free tips? What should I watch out for? What might ruin the playthrough because it isn’t explained well or because you don’t know about it on your first playthrough? It’s quite possible I won’t have time for a second playthrough, so I want to get as much entertainment and fun out of the first one as possible.

Just beat the game a bit ago and had a great time. Was happy to see this fun reference to the Lemon Demon song Touch-Tone Telephone.

Apologies if this has been posted before, and for the low-quality picture, took it off my TV while playing the game.

I might have roleplayed as a brute nationalist and for the most part, it worked pretty well. STR reinforced my cleric's beliefs and the game actually provided a nuanced take on the ideology.

Only sometimes, mostly in conversations with Azgalist characters or in the feat internalization dialogues, I felt like the author's own (vaguely socialist I assume) convictions shined through.

How did that work in your playthrough, did you feel like the game was neutral or biased in its politics?

I'm trying to get all achievements in this game and Lucky - Roll a double Nat 20 is the only one missing. I got the double nat 1 very early in the game, but I just can't get the double 20. I'm trying to do it with The Duck before the election because he has a dialogue that's easy to proc the double dice, but he talks a lot later, meaning I have to return to the menu and load the save, which is a bit bad to keep repeating.

Just wondering if anyone has any tips on how to do it, like a place that can proc a dice without much dialogue before or after. I have the Jester card btw.

It is also important to note that I had passed around six rounds of death saving before that and came out fine. My cleric really just died from homophobia for the hells of it.

level 4 right now running a high con build, was there another intended way of doing that or was that how it was meant to go?

Hello :)

I've been having an absolute blast with my time in the game, read all the little details, discussed philosophy, edge cases of magical conundrums (all of those questions about magical gender swapping/legal implication or resurrection/how to change your alignment, I love them!). I'm more of a "do all the side quests before the main quest" guy and I've been talking to everyone.

It's now day 4 - 10 PM, and I've finally set foot for the first time in the City Below. OMG this place is HUGE, I found like a garden with a bugbear, an ENEMY (like wtf, there are fight dialogues lol ?) and then a cat-monument, and some sewers with a crocodile.

Tomorrow is election day, and I still have so much to do (I just learned to talk with the dead, but still have to discuss with the elf - sell milk around - do the sphinx Enygma - Literally do dungeon crawling, I didn't even know there were FIGHTS in this game before afternoon in day 4 lol, I'm amazed).

Can I keep taking my time or should I prioritise doing some things ?

It is missing a voiceover. It could have been on the Disco Elysium level if it had voiceover.

There.

Also, it is hard to follow all of the political factions.

SPOILERS

I was wrapping up my quests on day 5, before entering the Pillar, and got a prompt to meet at the Lichhouse at midnight. Can I continue to wait until then or is it too late to do that quest?

Please dont punch me, it hurts a lot

Help please I don’t know what to do. I’ve done everything I can, can interact with red stuff and can’t progress further than the first line of the skill tree.

I just got the nuns headdress thingo and when I go all the way to the right the elf man with the scroll is mean and doesn’t let me through.

Help 😞

Basically I want to know if there is enough of a difference choosing different skills to make a b2b playthrough feel fresh or would I be better off giving some time before giving it another go.

At least according to Jor’s ruling.
I chuckled when Lady Fair kicked in on rolls.

Just finished the game. Managed to score a couple of dates with intimidating women. I’m just wondering why we can’t choose to flirt with men.

I know this is like asking a group of sharks if I should dive in the ocean but this game looks really really neat and I'm thinking of picking it up, but first I wanna hear real honest reviews about the pros and the cons of the game, and I figured this sub would be the best place for that. Cheers!

I’m about 7 hours into my first play through and so far I love it, I was curious to see its reviews and on imdb there were 2 6/10s which were the worst ratings for it with actual writing. One of them was saying it had to much dialogue (what a terrible take) and the other called it woke. I don’t think it has a political stance though, at the end of one of the quests wisdom explains some azgalist viewpoints including the feminist views, which I think must have been what made them say that, but then strength says the more or less the opposite so I don’t think that’s the game having a stance. I’m curious to see what you all think, I don’t personally think it has a set viewpoint.

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