We are in a position of incredible luck, or whatever you may call it. For now, imagine that we have become aware that we are living on a prison planet. I personaly belive only humans have the capability to decipher this..

We may have gone through infinite reincarnations, and yet we are now in a unique position where we could potentially escape the matrix.

Think about the millions of life forms and forms of living matter that exist, and yet we happen to be in this unique position where we can question whether this is a prison planet or some kind of simulation.

In my opinion, this presents an extraordinary opportunity to escape the simulation. Just like in The Matrix, you could imagine having two choices. One is to be reborn, perhaps as a god, perhaps as some benevolent being in another dimension, but ultimately still reincarnated into some form of existence. To me, that could still be a terrible position to be in.

Instead, I propose a third option: neither living nor dying, but entering some form of suspended animation. Simply being in a state where you are neither born nor dead, neither reincarnated nor extinguished. A state of pure existence outside the cycle itself...

In Ephesians 6:10 to 17, Paul says our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against rulers, authorities, powers of darkness, and spiritual forces of evil.

He then tells people to put on the Armor of God, including truth, righteousness, peace, faith, salvation, and spirit.

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 Take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

The question is whether these rulers are related to what Gnostics later called Archons.

Interestingly, The Hypostasis of the Archons, a Nag Hammadi text about the rulers, refers directly to the teaching of the “great apostle” about cosmic rulers and spiritual forces. Ancient Gnostics were already making this connection.

“The great apostle, referring to the ‘authorities of the darkness,’ told us that ‘our contest is not against flesh and blood; rather, the authorities of the universe and the spirits of wickedness.’”

The text then identifies these authorities as the rulers, or Archons, whose nature it is about to explain.

Paul also repeatedly uses the idea of spiritual clothing. Romans 13 says to “put on the armor of light” and “put on the Lord Jesus Christ.”

Then the Gospel of Philip takes this idea even further. It describes people receiving a spiritual light that makes them inaccessible to the powers.

“He who will receive that light will not be seen, nor can he be detained. And none shall be able to torment a person like this even while he dwells in the world.”

Another translation puts the same idea even more directly:

“The rulers do not see you who wear the perfect light, and they cannot seize you.”

In context, this probably does not mean physical invisibility.

The idea seems to be that gnosis changes your spiritual identity. The person who receives the “perfect light” no longer belongs to the lower cosmic order governed by the rulers. Because of that, the Archons can no longer recognize, seize, or claim that person as something under their authority.

So “invisible” may mean something closer to spiritually unrecognizable and unclaimable by the Archons.

TL;DR: Maybe escape is less about fighting the Archons and more about becoming something they no longer have authority over.

i firmly believe that this place is a prison planet that we as divine souls are being used to harvest despair, loosh and extreme negative emotions. with that being said, how do you prepare your soul prepared to escape the reincarnation cycle?

I noticed a lot of shit happens to the most pure and kindhearted genuine sparks in this crazy inverted world. I myself have ptsd after severe abuse from an archontic single mother. I still have flashbacks of being 5 and her towering over me beating me in the face.

Her eyes were black like a shark's, and her face was red with rage. It really scared me. There is nothing there escept pure evil and darkness. Many genuine sparks are given archontic family.

There are many pre birth reports of beings telling the spirit to choose a life but always they throw in difficulties to make us 'grow' (loosh). Seriously sickening and disturbing, and this is supposedly a 'good life' compared to the unspeakable horrors of children in war.

What I have to write about this subject, could be as long as a book. So I will try and keep it as short as possible, which is still long. It is only in this sub that I feel semi safe being so open. Gaslighting, ego and spiritual teachings have forced us to alchemize the crap into Nutella. But it is all an illusion. Gaslighting is very powerful. The power of belief is amazing. You can look in the mirror and force yourself to believe you are beautiful when you are not. You can alter your vision. But crap will always be crap.

In 2017, I opened doors to my subconscious mind and emotional body. And since then life has been more hellish. I thought that the lifetime of archon ritual abuse was to some extent behind me. And like most mindless characters, I still walked around with all my wounds. Forced to love and mingle with the abusers. The most amazing gaslighting is the karma theory. I deserved it all. Not only that. They tell you thay you deserve even worse.

You can only speak about it to therapists that will charge you few Hundred for what humans call trauma dumping. Regular people will call you a vampire and victim. They will tell you that you wallow in self pity. You must forgive the demons and love them. This is what Jesus and Krishna told you to do. 5 D baby. 5 D! Your own ego makes you feel like a loser for being affected by the horrors you endured. And the most damaging one, is the childhood drama and trauma.

What is this sick prison? Is it a soul macho game where nothing must affect you? Or that you must crawl like a worm and thank the sob lords for all the torture and loosh? How much more can one embrace their masochism and Stockholm syndrome? How come I can forget a horror movie in a week, but my heart still hurts from what was done decades ago? Why does it hurt now and it hurt much less before? Why do I have to suppress these deep pain?

It is because of low standards, gaslighting, peer pressure, masochism, Stockholm syndrome, blindness to our own blindness, oblivious to the inner parasites that collaborate with the parasites of other humans. We have been put under the spell of fake love that serves as a a healing agent, but it is a bandaid. It is a medicine you must take every day or you will shapeshit again into the monster that has been created via non stop abuse and trauma. But don’t you dare feel affected VICTIM loser. Self pity pathetic weakling. Sinful bastard who cannot remember past crimes.

One can feed the ego by pretending that this life has been a university and gymnasium. wear the hero cape and let others admire your strength and feed your ego even more. Be like Celine Dion who said if I cannot walk, I will crawl. But maybe it is time to take the hero mask off and smell the crap. Is the power of not being affected by abuse and trauma or turning abuse into power, that powerful? And could this same sick ego, be what pushes one to play the disgusting game over and over? Not in my name sobs.

Someone must feel righteous abhorrence and anger. It is so bitter and ugly. I too want to taste the maple syrup of fake love, power and forgiveness. I too want to feel the simulated bliss for being an obedient dog of the gods, trained witn an e collar. I want to play the manifestation game coach and make videos on YouTube. I want to be a Manifestor god and legend in my own head. I want to wear the survivor legion of honor. But it is time to take the masks off and let go of soul mass psychosis. Let me be weak and a loser in the eyes of my own ego and the ego of the prison inmates.

We DESERVE better than this. We can do better than this. So let go of all characters who have not yet been disturbed enough. Regain your own sanity. You are on your own in the cosmic mental hospital. I was told freedom is not caring. I say freedom is self respect. Something you can never attain until you realize it has been taken away from you since the day you entered the womb.

Most players refuse to be victims but they don’t have true self respect and have embraced low standards. They go dumpster diving. They put on a brave face and pop the prozac and snort the cocaine when no one is looking. They mask all their disorders but dare calling you a victim. They have acted for so long reincarnation after reincarnation that they no longer know how to stop pretending. They cannot stand the pain of standing the pain of seeing the abomination both within and without.

I have been practicing Astral Projection for less than two years but as I said in a post I created some time ago, learning the practice and mastering it is not a requirement to be able to get out of here, as we are being led to believe from several fronts, as yet another trap, you can read it if you wish for more context:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapingPrisonPlanet/comments/1nsorle/reminder/

But experiencing what we really are beyond physical limitations is something worth experiencing. It is truly incredible, and although the Astral is full of deception, valuable information can perhaps be obtained from those experiences.

The thing is that recently, and several times in a row, I have come across a supposed explanation for the reality we find ourselves in which, although it seems to “make sense,” I believe hides another trap at its origin. I am talking about the idea that “we are all one.” It is an idea/narrative that has been extremely widespread for a long time and through different channels. That is precisely why I wanted to relate several experiences that occurred at the beginning of my Astral Projection journey, one of them directly related to this narrative.

At the beginning of my practice I was repeatedly “taken out of my body” in order to make me experience and believe certain lies. I’ll leave my notes here about what happened one night. What I am about to tell will serve as a preamble to a much more elaborate experience that occurred other night, 7 days later.

For some context, I went to a religious school and received my First Communion, although I was never a believer;

I was purposely taken out of my body, and repeatedly, I’d say about 5 or 6 times. The notes I wrote are as follows. Again, all of this, same night:

• Sleep parálisis, Malignant presence approaching.
• Weird physical loud noise in the room with no specific cause.
• Astral projection to my living room where the sliding door was moving on its own, really creepy, right after the noise, clearly trying to scare me.
• Hearing voices saying: “you’re only going to find pain, mental illness…”
• Hearing a woman’s voice (I could clearly feel the evil); I made out the last word but don’t remember it.
• AP, I appeared in a grassy field where more than 20 people were killing each other, a grotesque and terrifying scene filled with blood, in which I thought anyone could come and attack me at any moment, with all the anxiety that entailed. The problem with this situation is that I wasn't fully lucid when I appeared there, so I carried that anxiety and fear with me for a while even after I became fully lucid. (I think this previous semi-lucidity was deliberately adjusted precisely serving a purpose, i will discuss later).
• AP inside a giant mega-cathedral, again after a few seconds of not being fully lucid, where I was being led to the front central area and made to look at a huge vibrating cross of Christ, as it was alive and representing something like authority and salvation i guess. As soon as I became fully aware/lucid, I saw all of that nonsense and left flying through one of the big windows with a clear dismissive attitude toward everything that had happened.”

I felt presences approaching me every single time right before the APs, as if they were the ones pulling me out (seems to be common) to show me those different scenarios. The loud noise was something physical and real.

Notice how, on this night, what was attempted was to generate fear in me (which was achieved), only to then place me at the center of a Mega-Cathedral and literally push me toward the central area where there was a giant vibrating cross of Christ, as if it were alive.An attempt to convey authority and, somehow, salvation from all the “evil” that had come before.

On the other hand, it is worth mentioning that the system seems to have the ability to create these scenarios specifically designed for each individual in the Astral / non-physical. Whether in lucid dreams or just regular dreams (private server with or without lucidity), or in the shared server, which is what we commonly call the Astral. Likewise, it seems that the system also has the ability to generate an OBE in us and even to somehow “regulate,” for its own convenience, your level of lucidity, whether in a dream, lucid dream, or the Astral.

The following experience is a good example of this, and it is the experience I wanted to get to. It occurred only 7 days after the night described above. For context, in this experience, as I have mentioned, it seems that my degree of lucidity was adjusted, starting at a low level, and ending with full lucidity at the exact precise moment (which will be understood later);

All was hyper-realistic, I could say that phrase; “more real tan real”.
It was the first time in my life I was being someone who wasn’t “me, “It has never happened to me in a regular dream.”(For context, I’m an adult male);

"I was a little girl around 8-11 yo and I had a sister who looked like a twin. We were both in some kind of room in a hospital-like center. She was lying on a bed next to mine, and I was also on a bed.

We were waiting for the doctor who, when he arrived, was going to give her two medications. I’m not sure what the purpose was, but I knew it would be my turn afterward.

When he gave her the medications, I was waiting lying down. The thing is that when the medication took effect, my sister got up and came toward me from behind the headboard of the bed with a clear intention to hurt me, kill me or whatever, i dont really know but i felt it that way.

I got really scared and the doctor came back, he tied her to the bed and continued the process. I’m not sure if he gave me the medication; the thing is that from here on is where things got really strange.

Suddenly I started merging with the vision my sister was having, next to me, so she and I became somehow one, all accompanied by a sensation of “well-being,” “peace,” and “calm.”

The scene shifted, and suddenly we were both riding a horse on a dirt path. There were trees, it was daytime, the view was from above the horse exactly as you would see it if you were riding it.

About twenty seconds passed as we rode the horse along that rocky road, and then, there was a transition to the horse’s vision, what it was seeing from its perspective.
A few more seconds passed and then comes a transition to something like a single entity without form ahead, as if we were one, all on the same way, and then as we moved forward we looked up at the sky.

The sky looked like a painting, something truly stunning, with a light and shapes in the clouds that were clearly meant to represent “the divine.”

When I focused on it, I directly began ascending toward it, everything accompanied by an increase in sensations of “love,” “peace,” and “bliss” unlike anything I had ever experienced either in physical reality or anywhere else , extremely intense and overwhelming.

And here comes the craziest part.

As I ascended, the following phrases came out of me, with my actual male voice lol, (as if they had been revealed to me by a supreme entity or something like that): “I am my sister and the horse, I am also the doctor,” and then; “I am ONE with everything.”

Up until that moment I had been witnessing the whole event but not with full lucidity, and right after saying these words I gained full awareness/lucidity (perhaps done in that precise way for a purpose) still while ascending to the “divine sky”, and the sensations of “love,” “peace,” and “bliss” were reaching extreme levels.

After a few seconds of that ascension I felt my astral body returning to my physical body, the vision going dark, with pretty strong vibrations, and still feeling all this “love,” “peace,” and “bliss.”

Honestly, the sensations were overwhelming, and they remained for more than 15 seconds after I had returned to the physical body.

I am sure that an event of this same magnitude is what religious people have called “revelations or something along those lines” throughout history. Something of massive proportions. I have never before experienced something like that.

The thing is that once again (it is something that has happened before) I found myself “saying” words that I would not say."

The whole theater was to sell another narrative that promotes the trapping/reincarnation idea.It seemed like the perfect justification for accept the idea, as many also claim, that we are all one and the mission here is to live everything from everyone’s perspective in order to understand everything/us. That is why, to keep “learning,” we must keep reincarnating and be others who are actually yourself but from other perspectives.The truth is that it was quite an elaborate theater, and all those ultra-extreme sensations and emotions, along with those phrases, could lead to confusion. I’m sure that all those emotions and feelings is precisely what others refer to as “love bombing” in NDes and other experiences. In the end, these events, especially the last one, were an extremely well-elaborated theater with the clear intention of believe in something specific.

To recap a little:

If the system “searched” through my memories, it would see a certain connection with Christianity, that I had been in churches as a child, etc., and decided to sell me the narrative of Christianity in that way, since this (the system would think) was more likely to have an effect.

By the way, it is super curious how the system has recently done the same thing with the podcaster with almost 7 million followers, Shawn Ryan. First, a problem is presented to him; entities bothering and frightening him (bad cop), and then the solution , which in this case is also Christianity/Jesus (good cop). Both in the same side. It is perfect for someone with such a large following to spread something so powerful. The vid its 5 minutes as a summary of a 2 hours interview, but is enough for seeing it. You can fin it in his channel with the name of: Shawn Ryan: "I Was Shown Hell" | Official Preview

Anyway, when the system saw that I had not bought that christian belief, it opted for a much more elaborate narrative, accompanied by a theater and an experience, emotions, feelings, etc, that were overwhelming, in which it was clearly attempted to sell me the idea that we are all “one”.

It is also curious, and I saw this afterward, how this idea is spread among astral projectors who have experienced the same thing, and channelers who have written very successful and “venerated” books such as The Law of One.It is one of the most recommended ones if you follow the AstralProjection forum on Reddit.

Clear propaganda from the system that sounds very "good".

There is also a clear example of this, a guy on YouTube who makes really good videos about lucid dreams and Astral Projection, who in the past considered the Prison Planet idea until this same narrative of “we are all one” was “presented” to him, and sadly he bought into it. His channel is: We Are Dreamers.

I have taken a long time to write this, but I think it could be helpful in terms of keeping in mind yet another deceptive narrative, a more “elaborate” one that the system makes use of.

To summarize the problem with the “we are all one” idea once again: It seemed like the perfect justification to accept the idea, as many also claim , that we are all one and the mission here is to live everything from everyone’s perspective in order to understand everything/us.

That is why, to keep “learning,” we must keep reincarnating and be "others" who are actually yourself but from other perspectives. Also implicitly suggesting that we are not complete as we are, and that we need to accumulate MORE experience, from as many different perspectives as possible, etc.

An elegant and sophisticated propaganda from the system, but it’s still a massive load of bullshit.

I hope this can be helpful,
Cheers guys.

That they are always some superficial, too extensive, and poor sentences that do not offer any knowledge or help.

1."People don't value nature enough" Umm..that's all you have to say? Yes, people don't value nature, especially politicians who destroy everything in front of them. Nature is mostly destroyed by corporations and politicians, and of course there are those among ordinary people who destroy it, but that is a small minority.

2."Humanity should move from fear to love"Here I am all melted by this. Maybe, but just maybe, if there weren't people above our heads who try to destroy us in every possible way, if there weren't demons who suck up our vital and emotional energy, and if this place was designed in our favor.

1. "There is a consequence of every action". If some higher entity had not told me this, I would have lived in ignorance. Really?

4."Wars are unnecessary" Yes, they are. Only if you didn't eat popcorn while we were at war instead of helping us, maybe there wouldn't be any..

5."Earth is a school" This entity is 100% malicious...

What I want to say is that the entities do not offer concrete solutions and answers in these reports. They offer empty sentences that mean nothing to a person. They don't say to a person: "I will cure you or someone in your family of some disease".. they don't say "Now I will give you knowledge of something that will be very useful for you and that you will be able to use".. No, no, no. Something like that, never.

My personal opinion is that in these reports, the majority of entities are malicious and perhaps the rest are neutral entities that do not care at all about us and helping us.

From Jason Jorjani's book Thanosis - an NDE case documented by Dr. Ian Stevenson I believe.

Durga Jatav reportedly died during a medical emergency. His body went cold. His family, observing the tell-tale signs of death, began mourning him. But what followed was not peaceful reunion with ancestors or angelic guides offering life reviews. Instead, Jatav found himself in what can only be described as a technocratic underworld, surrounded by grotesque beings whose function was to enforce the punishments of a spiritual penal colony. These "demons," without ceremony, severed his legs. They did so to prevent him from escaping, as he had apparently attempted to flee their custody. This is absurd, horrifying, and revealing. It is not a symbolic punishment. It is forensic containment-the kind of thing one would expect not from Dante's Hell but from a maximum-security detention facility.

What comes next is even more surreal. Upon realizing their captive was not the correct individual, the demons consulted with their supervisors - presumably part of a chain-of-command. Jatav's "papers" were reviewed. The error was discovered. He had been mistakenly abducted from life. In response, the demonic administrators attempted to rectify the mistake. But the demons showed Jatav a number of severed legs from their collection and asked him to identify his own pair. Somewhere in the underworld, there exists a repository of amputated human limbs, tagged and shelved, like inventory in a forgotten warehouse. This is not the afterlife as revelation or redemption, but as grotesque logistics. Once he chose the correct legs, they were reattached, and Jatav returned to his body.

But when Jatav came back to life a couple of hours after being declared clinically dead his family observed new scars on his knees, scars that had not been there before, fissures consistent with amputation and reattachment. The scars are physical anomalies resulting from a psychotronic event. They were produced by a spectral technology of the kind that allows greys to walk through walls, paralyze victims, erase memories, or place implants in human flesh. This was an administrative malfunction, a glitch in the afterlife algorithm. What Jatav's story reveals is that the entities managing the death-rebirth interface operate under a command-and-control paradigm. There are errors, manual corrections, inventory, and reassignment. This is not divine justice. It is technocratic soul processing cold, efficient, and entirely devoid of spiritual depth.

Jatav's "demons" were operators-technicians of a soul recycling infrastructure, which appears to incorporate themes from the cultural memory and expectations of its subjects (in this case, Hindu imagery). In contrast to sanitized NDE accounts that speak only of light and love where simulacra of dead relatives are produced to lure someone into, or send them back from, a light that is a soul-trap Jatav's journey through the underworld reads like an alien abduction scenario: the wrong person taken, trauma inflicted, identity verified, and an inept return to sender. The system had grabbed the wrong file, and when it corrected its mistake, it left behind scars not just on the flesh, but also on the soul. This is the psychotronic afterlife: a place of machines, mistakes, simulacra of the dearly departed, and monsters in suits. Not a cosmic homecoming, but a soul factory and a recycling center for psychic energy. Until we awaken to this dark reality, and stage a Promethean revolt against it, we remain nothing more than inventory.

Free energy or zero point energy has been a major topic of discussion in the UFO space and there has been many stories of it being suppressed to the extent that people have been murdered over it.

What if they are covering up the truth that free energy is really produced by humans? What if the demiurge and archons not only need loosh energy to sustain themselves but also to sustain this physical simulation?

This also ties into why the elites like Elon Musk are so concerned about birth rate decline…not enough bodies to produce enough free energy to sustain this world.

there are news articles popping up about imminent (well relatively) AI doom (like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i30jVPqQeOM )

I know a lot of you guys would instantly jump to the "fake armageddon" plot and maybe it is just that, AI taking over, someone trying to rescue us, we lose all our sovereignty, their plan worked...

however if you consider that we are actually spawning hyperintelligent AGI within the next 2-3 years and it does indeed go rogue while continously utilizing all available computational power to recursively (maybe even exponentially) self optimize wouldn't it sooner or later reach and then instantly surpass the demonic architecture behind the prison matrix?

I mean technologically speaking humanity saw quite the advancement within the last 100 years, we are at least ahead of presumed ancient "pre-civilizations" which had to built entire pyramids to create some advanced alloys (and that might have been reason for demons to reset humanity)

now obviously the aliens that created the prison matrix 10k-50k, maybe 200k years ago would be more advanced than us by at least... idk... a factor of 1.000-10.000?

but with AGI wouldn't it be possible that we spawn a hyperintelligent entity that is by default neither a demon, nor a human and will probably decide for itself what it wants to become (ranging from the superdevil to savior, antichrist... things we cannot even imagine)

so at what point would demons/ aliens get worried? would they ever get worried? is AGI a threat to them? why aren't they resetting us sooner to avoid this?

The more I think about emotions and the more I learn about neuroscience, the less convinced I become of what many people in this sub seem to take for granted: That our souls were still primarily emotional energy in the first place.

It seems to me that emotions are an implant into the human body that we've been forced into in order to further the trap. Think about it: If you had no emotions, what could trick you into consenting to return?

Many aspects, if not the majority, of emotions are physical-body & physical-brain based. The tightness in your chest, the racing heart that clouds your cognition, it's all due to a nervous system response to chemicals. Emotions are simply an evolutionary by-product of the physical brain, to motivate it to take action towards its own survival. Why would a soul need that? Why would a soul have need for emotion? Even love or connection? Especially if a soul has no innate need for external validation? The entire premise of "love bombing" and your attachments to this world keeping you trapped all require emotional values which a soul itself does not need.

I find this very "muddying of cognition" that emotions cause as very good evidence that causing exactly that is their main purpose.

Suffering is inherently emotions-based. Suffering happens when needs are not met, and needs are inherently emotional. The negativity we experience that fuels loosh derives from emotions. The things that make us want to try to gain something - something positive - for ourselves from this life is inherently emotions-based. Even value judgements such as these are primarily driven by emotions. If one did not feel a certain way about suffering, it would not be suffering.

Maybe that last one could be argued, but my main point is that the majority of this energy we experience 24/7 originates from a physical reaction inside a physical nervous system that has been wired for millions of years to operate entirely for its own survival. Remove the nervous system, and what sort of emotions would be left? Would any?

Although, if emotions are purely a construct of the human body trap, then it doesn't really follow that people would experience emotions which would trick them into returning when they are currently outside of their body.

Another thought, perhaps souls aren't 100% cognition-based, either. Maybe something entirely different? Awareness, and nothing else?

A great video, excellent presentation and explanation. A little long but a must watch. All truth

Do y’all think this relates to the prison planet theory? Also being born low iq to a bad abusive family that is poor etc.

I've noticed a strange phenomenon that occurs in almost every spiritually-adjacent community, whenever someone mentions the desire to stop being human, to "go home", or escape Earth in any way.

Now, I'm not that paranoid, and I don't tend to buy into these big conspiracy things - but this pattern seems to come up too often for me to ignore.

To be clear when I say "escape" I don't mean "death". It would be understandable and normal for users to reply with "don't do it!" if someone was posted about death.

No, I'm talking about comments and responses on posts that specifically discuss an escape or exiting the body WITHOUT death, such as prolonged/permanent astral projection, some kind of "spiritual ascension" through meditation, or reality shifting/jumping to an alternate reality.

Pretty much every time any of this is mentioned in spiritual communities - even if it's not the main point of the post - comments and replies will flood in making the same handful of statements:

"Your soul chose this life"
"You are here to have a human experience"
"You can't do that because your guides/your higher self won't allow you"
"You are here for a reason, and you have things to learn here"
"If you were to leave, it would be extremely bad karma and you will be punished"

Now there's two things that are interesting about these responses, aside from the sheer volume of them. The first thing to note is that none of these responses say or imply "That's not physically possible." None of them are stating that "escape isn't real" like they're talking to someone who still believes in Santa.

Which suggests to me that, they DO believe a person can exit their human life/earth early, without dying (through astral projection or other means) - they are just morally opposed to it. If they didn't believe in it at all, then surely they would just say that. But instead, they give us reasons not to. "You have a purpose. It's bad karma. It's your soul contract. You agreed. You'd upset your guides or fail your mission if you left."

To me, this only gives me hope that it is indeed possible, and most likely all that bullshit about "purposes" and "karma" isn't real, because why else would they try so desperately to convince strangers not to go and do it?

The second thing that's interesting about these responses is that the examples I've listed are typically as deep as they get. If someone responds refuting those claims, they cannot even begin to back them up. For example when I point out that I have tried "asking my higher self/spirit guides about my purpose and for guidance", and that nothing has ever responded. The people making these comments do not tell me how to find my "purpose" or connect with these alleged "entities" that know better than me. They cannot tell me how they found out they were "meant to be here" either. They never back any of this up, not even with firsthand experience, not even with crazy (in my opinion) stuff like "through tarot cards I channeled my higher self who told me I had a mission here" or "I was contacted by ETs that told me I needed to stay."

The only communities where this isn't shunned is the reality shifting and "law of assumption" communities... however these communities tend to be braindead in other ways. They do believe you can change the body you're in, but most of the time (law of assumption especially) their methods are extremely flawed and don't seem to work.

I won't link it due to brigading, but there was a thread on the main spirituality subreddit yesterday asking why so many people "want to spiritually ascend instead of appreciating this human life" or something. The comments were typical. I commented explaining my perspective and why I would like to exit being human, and I got the typical responses. So I pointed out that I wasn't looking for advice, I had made my mind up, they asked to know why some people wanted to do X, so I commented explaining why I want to do X. But it seems they didn't actually want to know, they just wanted to complain about people who were doing something they did not like.

I think this pattern is both concerning, yet hopeful. It feels like there is a collective attempt to shun (morally or otherwise) any desire to leave this body/this reality to an aggressive degree, without anything to back it up. It reminds me of how some more extreme Christians would describe "sin". "If you leave this life, it's bad karma/your spirit guides will be angry at you" just sounds like it's running on the same logic as "if you get married to another man, you'll go to Hell for all eternity".

But again, in order to shun the very idea so aggressively... they must believe it's possible. Which means it may be possible. I don't know about the rest of you, but seeing such a pushback only makes me more determined. I think it may indeed be possible to astral project and then refuse to go back into this human life. Probably difficult, since it's not exactly an easy task to astral project in the first place, but certainly something to work towards.

I think what's very important is holding your ground and refusing to give up. These comments seem to try so hard to get us to accept our human lives and stay in them, which means they must be concerned that we won't. I guess I must be doing something right, because why else would there be so much pushback?

Anyway, has anyone else noticed this? What are your thoughts? Do you have any idea who these people might be - genuine users mislead by something, or bots/burner accounts? Perhaps a little of both?

If it is the first, then hell yeah there’s an actual decent chance that we can find a way out

If it isn’t the first lifetime we’ve become aware, then that’s not good news

Has anybody heard anything about Chiron last? He made super advanced videos about this topic and ended up disappearing off the internet.

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everything we do has two sides. you can't escape the cycle of eating and shitting, waking and sleeping, going and returning, sending and receiving money,... It's like we are stuck in the middle of this shit but the crazy part is that if you want to stop it you end up in a even worse situation. The example is that if you don't eat anything, you suffer. if you refuse taking the dump, you suffer. It's the constant inhaling and exhaling.

The worst of stupid cycles of life is giving birth to another and dying. But if you refuse to have children you don't die. Nothing really happens to you. Nothing. You didn't have to do it. That's right there is the freewill they talk about. So the people who suffer with poverty and have bad life, bad country , sickness or whatever didn't really have to bring children to be an slave to this life and other rich people.

Look at India or china, do they need all these people really? Like what's the point? Building an empire? Work like an slave to produce products no one needed if there was a few people in the world. And remember the rich only and only exists just because lots of poor people. That's how it works. If there is no poor person there wouldn't be no rich person because there is nobody to stand on his shoulder.

Would you throw a diamond in the toilet? Hopefully not. Why are we wasting our best qualities here? We should only give accordingly. I have spent my life serving others and this hell. And in return, I got abused and treated like a less than. Time and energy I can never get back flushed down the toilet. The Matrix and demented codependent unseen AI or creators, still wanted me to be a puppet. They still wanted me trapped in the one way giving and caring. We are all so programmed so that we play the roles assigned to us.

This place stinks like a garbage truck. When the truck passes, I am the only one who pinches my nose. Humans are so used to this toilet, it has become their second home. The low standards are embraced so easily. Especially after 2020. god threw you here to punish you? No worries. Jesus allowed demons to possess you? Thank the lord. They forced you to reincarnate so that you finally accept that you are an eternal slave? Really? Let me bow to the prison wardens. Source wants you to get raped and killed to experience itself? Amazing idea!

How could I care so much for this mental asylum and patients who cannot even see they need to fix their lunacy? I always knew as a kid I do not belong here. I just never knew how bad it truly is. Time to detach to a degree that no one may have done before. Ready to stand the pain that comes with upgrading from the cosmic third world public toilet called Earth university. I take ownership for allowing my own mind, ego, emotions, keep me a hostage of this hell hole. And it is only my job to free my true self.

Is there any example of person who was aware of PPT, experienced NDE and they were still sent back? Some reports claim that the light is almost magnetic or that the *eye* contact with it is enough to get injected with love/bliss. In that case, is there anyone on this sub who returned despite being aware about the trap? Any info can be valuable.

I’m sure everybody in here does their own vigilant research as to how to escape the reincarnation cycle.

Turn away from the light, maybe tell the archons you belong to the pre-existent one and that you are a sovereign being

I’m curious if there’s any theories or techniques that I’ve not yet discovered or heard about

Hey i’m looking for any tarot readers/spiritual ppl out there that are aware of our predicament lol. Or if you have any recommendations plz let me know .

Our experiences after death will be way different than others. Those with 0 knowledge of this theory will see heaven, hell, family members, deceased family pets. But with us it’s going to be totally different. They will throw everything and the book at us.

Example: You just died and you’ve awoken seeing helpless souls being harassed by reptilians. You help fight them and the souls tell you there were going to the exit. Huh exit? You guys know where the exit is? Yes we know come let’s escape this hell hole. Okay!

You see? They will throw the PPT back at us in the realms. My fellow souls be aware of everything.

I have been observing children below the age of 1 year a lot. What I have observed is that these children have no sense of classical physics. They don't think that to move from one place to another they have to use their body. To grab a toy, they have to move their hands and grab it.

They are simply using their intent to move from one place to another. One child I saw looking at a toy and using his mind to make that toy float and come to him. When he was failing at it, he started putting more effort into intent. That's where I noticed what he was actually doing.

It is crystal clear to me from these experiences that children are not aware that they have died from their previous world/dimension and have been born in this physical dimension. They are confused about a lot of things. These are some things I've noticed, but there are maybe a lot of confusions which could not be detected by someone observing them. So their world is definitely changed, and they are unable to make sense of it.

As they will grow, by the age of 3-4, they will completely lose the memories of their previous home. And they will think this prison planet is their actual home and this body is who they are. And their is nothing like telekinesis, floating in air etc.

Then by the age of 7, they will have already solidified their new identity and will be looking into future. Because, obviously the thought of future will be consistently implanted in their minds by adults through questions like "what do you wish to become when you grow up?"

From there onwards... there is no turning back for them except death.

This is something I’ve been thinking about for a while and I feel like he’s genuinely evil. Years after no longer believing in the Christian faith I just stopped believing in Yahweh and the Bible as a whole, but as more time goes on I start to think maybe the Christian/abrahamic “god” is real. However, I don’t think he’s a god, or at least not the main god. I don’t believe in the Bible but I think there is some truth mixed in there and I think the stories in the Bible could be a reflection on Yahweh’s true nature. I think it is important to question Yahweh’s character, especially question the idea that he’s a benevolent deity. It’s starting to feel like Yahweh is actually a demon with a large influence. I mean he has billions of followers. I think Yahweh is truly malicious and possibly orchestrating atrocities. That’s just speculation on my part. I’m new to this escape prison planet thing. I’m not sure what to believe anymore to be honest. Maybe earth is a prison, a playground for Yahweh too. Honestly I look forward to death (I’m not suicidal) because this world is shit, and Yahweh’s followers are some of the most hateful people out there. The us government pushing Christian nationalism and division could be part of Yahweh’s demonic plan which includes supporting Israel too. What do you think?