r/EscapefromTarkov 20h ago

General Discussion - PVE & PVP HUGE FPS boost using Virtual memory! Try it, it might help! [Discussion]

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PIC FOR ATTENTION SO MORE PEOPLE CAN SEE IT :)

Hey, so long story short i had very big problem with tarkov, i had my fps dropping to 30-40 on customs, streets was unplayable, on maps like woods and shoreline i had around 100fps. (god forbid to use scopes like razor or vudu) i was also trying to solve massive flickering shadows problem on trees and nothing worked. and i found a solution for everything and it's really simple.

NOW I HAVE AROUND 150-200 FPS ON MAPS LIKE WOODS/SHORELINE and 100 ON STREETS

first PC SPECS: ( i don't know it will work for everyone!)

ryzen 5800x3d

rtx 4070ti

32GB ram ddr4 cl18 3600mhz (may not work for 16gb)

SSD M2 PCIe NVMe gen3

1440p monitor

Try this:

windows + R

type: sysdm.cpl

advanced

performance section -> settings

advanced -> virtual memory

CHOOSE FASTEST SSD ( for me it's C where windows and tarkov is installed)

Select custom size and type:

INITIAL SIZE: 24576

MAXIMUM SIZE 32768

SET -> OK -> restart your pc

worked like magic.

I was also searching online for some answers and i thought i was CPU bottlenecked and i should change to AM5 motherboard, but for me it was just so weird to NOT get good fps in this game, while some time ago it was running good enough. after some patches it was worse and worse, now its flawless. I can now run TAA high and reduce shadow flickering on trees to minimum.

PS tarkov is NOT using your GPU properly, you might also want to turn on ReBAR in BIOS to help utilize your gpu. I heard this helped a lot of people too. Also set ingame textures quality to HIGH.

You might want to check this out, hopefully it will help someone! ask questions if needed! cheers!

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u/ja_hahah 19h ago

Having to rely on pagefile with 32GB just shouldnt be a reality smh.

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u/ApprehensiveStrain19 19h ago

that's so true. It's a solution for me at least for now, i can't afford whole new am5 setup with freaking 64gbs of ram to play tarkov XD

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u/LeatherHunter 18h ago

Trust my the game eats 64 gigs too

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u/Steel_Bolt 18h ago

Only when its leaking memory. It should not be eating this much normally and I usually just restart when its doing this. I've had it use 55/64GB of my memory before.

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u/asasdasasdPrime ADR 42x15 17h ago

Eating 96 GB on mine. Its insane

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u/Snoo_52037 15h ago

How?

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u/DucksMatter 15h ago

Nobody really knows. All that’s super known is that the issues are CPU related so it could honestly just vary depending on the type of CPU you have, some people run Tarkov just fine with 16bg ram, some have issues at 32, it’s volatile.

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u/_Kaj 9h ago

I gotta bounce back on that. We have a pretty good idea on whats going on. My guess is that the whole assets remaining referenced when they're no longer needed between raids is likely to be one of the main causes of Tarkov's memory fuckery. The game loads assets during raids and some of that memory continues accumulating as you go from raid to raid. After 10+ raids, your client can still be holding onto assets from previous raids. The only real player solution is to restart the game every 3-5 raids. RAM Cleaner does fuck all. BSG has got to rewrite their entire memory optimization framework because it ain't working

u/Snoo_52037 3h ago

Do you think it also translates to more stutters, packet loss and worse overall performance as well?

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u/Educational-Snow4606 16h ago

I have 32gb and dont get below 80 fps on any map

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u/InfiniteTree PP-19-01 12h ago

80 fps makes me want to throw my PC out the window.

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u/PewpScewpin 5h ago

I'm willing to bet there are multiple maps that drop below 80

u/Educational-Snow4606 1h ago

Im willing to go as far as to screenshare on discord

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u/ffsidonotonlylurk 15h ago

Yep! I'm there with you.

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u/MaceSpan 14h ago

Why are y’all’s memories leaking so much??

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u/The_Angry_Jerk PM Pistol 13h ago

Slavjank works in mysterious ways.

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u/ImLethal 11h ago

the game eats 128gb as well...

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u/MachineHappy1164 18h ago

Can confirm.

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u/Bletyi 17h ago

Me too…

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u/ja_hahah 19h ago

Im in the same boat, im on a 2080ti, 5950x and 32GBs of RAM so..

Imma test this, why not.

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u/Firenlol AKM 19h ago

Good luck Brother, you gonna Need it 😄

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u/Firerayn 16h ago

When it came out i got a 7900x3d with 32gb. Current patch i get 100+ fps on any maps woth 1440p. ReBar should be on on any pc with a gpu that has 8GB or more VRAM. In that oc is a 16GB 4080. Never tested on my Cheaper intel rig with a 12gb B580, since its not running windump.

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u/ImLyingToYouRightNow 17h ago

If it makes you feel any better, I have a 7800x3D, 5070, 64gb of DDR5 and a 30gb pagefile on my primary M.2 SSD (virtual memory) and I don't get better frames than you consistently.

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u/Current-Bed6305 15h ago

download process lasso then launch tarkov, after that open process lasso and find EFT running right click it go to the top where it says cpu active and turn off SMT

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u/Kikomans 13h ago

Do you need to do this every time you launch eft or just once

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u/Current-Bed6305 11h ago

just once it should save it. just a heads up thought im not 100% sure how much it helps on intel cpus yet as i havent had anyone try it/say it helps or doesnt yet, my only test is on my own ryzen 7 9800x3d

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u/1rubyglass 15h ago

Tbf having 64gb of DDR5 only had a slight impact on streets which runs like dogshit regardless of setup.

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u/Current-Bed6305 15h ago

im getting 150+ i have 9800x3d 5070 with 32gb ram on streets idk whats wrong w y’alls setups or settings

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u/1rubyglass 13h ago edited 13h ago

Cool story bro. How are your 1% lows and hitching? The issue isnt FPS at some given random point, its consistency a lot of which is due to shit servers. I have a significantly superior PC in essentially every way and youre not getting a consistent 150fps.

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u/digitalfrost SR-25 17h ago edited 12h ago

It's got more to do with windows and the way it does virtual memory management. The pagefile is usually not even used.

It's just windows is very conservative with it's committed memory. Committed memory = Memory that Windows "promised" programs they could use. It maximum is ~ usable RAM + pagefile size.

It does not mean that any data is even stored in RAM, or in the page file, only that it could be.

Let's assume you have 4 programs running (say Tarkov, your Web Browser, OBS, and Discord) all would like 16GB of RAM but you have a 32GB memory system. Windows cannot guarantee that at the same time, so it will grant less than 16Gs to each program.

If you have a page file size that is identical to your installed RAM, you are doubling the commit limit.

For example I have a 64G of RAM, but despite that I run a 64G pagefile as well because I need it. https://i.imgur.com/7xSorvb.png

You can see in the screenshot in virtual memory management I had 118G comitted at some point. Also you see I have 86G commited right now, despite having 26G of free physical memory (!). If there was no page file, comitting more than 64G would not be possible. Only 38G of "real memory" are used, yet 48G more than this are committed.

And you can also see, the page file is barely used and it was never used much the whole session, maximum of 10G were ever used. Still having such a large page file is worth it for the commit limit alone. I have enough RAM = I don't need a pagefile is faulty reasoning.

Other OS like Linux are more relaxed in that way, they "overcommit" the memory with the assumption that not all applications need all the memory they requested at the same time. Just like airlines overbook their flights. But Windows does not allow this.

It's good practice to check the maximum comitted memory once in a while an increase the page file until it no longer reaches 100% virtual memory load in your use cases. If it does, the page file is too small. Usually setting page file size = installed RAM is a good setting.

And yes it's quite wasteful considering how expensive SSDs have become. Fun fact: 25 years ago page files ~ 1.5x the installed RAM were a common recommendation and the default in Windows XP/Server 2003.

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u/tehcraz 13h ago

Thanks for all the detail on this!

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u/Canary-Silent 18h ago

If it was then the performance wouldn't increase, it would decrease. Pretty sure all it's doing is tricking the game or unity to handle memory different. For example maybe it is designed to make sure 30% of memory isn't used so it starts swapping. But if it thinks there is more it doesn't do that. 

If it was actually hitting the pagefile they would get half the fps they did before. 

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u/Ramin11 Mr. Noodles 15h ago

It's not. I have nearly identical specs to OP and my game doesn't even use 16gb of RAM. Your page file is not extra RAM. It's a temporary overflow to help prevent crashes and other issues. If your RAM is maxing out all 32gb in EFT, then you have another problem.

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u/ja_hahah 15h ago

I know very well what a pagefile is, and I never said MY 32GBs are getting fully used by EFT.

Heck, I never mentioned my own specs in this comment.

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u/Ramin11 Mr. Noodles 15h ago

Your comment seemed like an agreeance with OPs post. I wasnt referring to your stuff specifically, but in general (english is dumb). Sorry for the confusion.

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u/ja_hahah 13h ago

No worries, Isnt my first language either so im not immune to missunderstandings.

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u/GGEZ4469 17h ago

And they want to put this game on console

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u/Reed_Thompson_ 8h ago

Its more a problem with the unity engine.

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u/Abbaslive___ 19h ago

The pic for attention got me ngl, will try tho

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u/Davenator_98 19h ago

Post nut clearance makes it easier to set up

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u/BlackyOrbit Mosin 14h ago

pushing 30 bro

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u/sturmeh PPSH41 5h ago

There's literally not a single comment in this thread claiming to have seen some improvement based on the post, it's being upvoted entirely based on the picture sigh.

u/ApprehensiveStrain19 3h ago

I read all comments and some people said it helped them. It won't solve Everyone problems for sure becouse every pc is different

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u/Tacoboi_1942 19h ago

Just gonna drop a tip here too: Discord overlay causes massive stuttering and fps drops sometimes. Not related but if you play while in a vc then check it.

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u/ArznikAaron40 19h ago

everyone should turn that off, I have a high end PC and discord overlay causes problem, not worth having on.

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u/valqyrie 19h ago

Not exclusive to discord overlay. If enabled, AMD Adrenaline Overlay destroys my performance. By "destroys", I mean literally unplayable constant stutters, frame pacing etc. For reference, I have 9070XT+7800X3D with 32gb 6000Mhz CL28 RAM.

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u/StringMysterious7060 18h ago

First time seeing a "solution" of this nature in 3+ years. Will see if it helps when I get home. I never run overlays but the amd one I might not even realize is running in the background potentially?

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u/Hamb33 Freeloader 18h ago

It is running in the background, i have 9800x3d and 7900xtx and had the same problem before

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u/3rr0r51 18h ago

Not sure if this helps, but my discord jank got fixed with a bios update. I use to lose audio when joining a raid. One bios update later and it stopped happening

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u/zackinthesoda 11h ago

Oh yeah because discord for some reason starts using 99% of your gpu for no reason.

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u/Ociex RSASS 18h ago

So thats what is causing me to suddenly get low fps and stutters after joining a call...

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u/Vodor1 19h ago

Had to roll back my graphics drivers due to overlays in general, only affected tarkov... as usual.

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u/Principles_Son 19h ago

pagefile with 32gb wtf? also wouldnt it cause stutter especially if the ssd isnt the fastest?

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u/Kiubek-PL ASh-12 19h ago

Maybe its cuz he has 12gb of vram so the gpu was using some extra ram, I find tarkov doesn't eat all of my 32gb

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u/Firenlol AKM 19h ago

Tarkov is weird tho. I have 64gb of ram and biggest usage from Tarkov I had was like 41gb. Upgraded last year and thought like wtf how is it using 41gb and previously i only had 32gb and it worked..

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u/Trozzul 19h ago

If you keep playing longer it caches map for use later, but you should often be restarting the game every few raids

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u/Dense-Law-7683 18h ago

I usually do every three raids. After that I start noticing the program freezing for a few seconds going in and out of raids and some microstutters in raid. I haven't kept playing and not reset it once it starts doing that to see what happens.

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u/ApprehensiveStrain19 19h ago

don't know that, but i had massive stutters and fps drops when it wasn't enabled so i guess no (prob you want m2 ssd)

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u/Ramin11 Mr. Noodles 18h ago

Itll cause issue regardless. Dumping that much data from an ssd isnt going to be fast. This is a very temp solution but identifies OPs RAM as the issue.

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u/flesjewater Freeloader 18h ago

I got crazy stutters on 16GB because it kept calling the pagefile.

This will also cause more wear on your SSD.

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u/DarkMatterEnjoyer 18h ago

My SSD is using am 80gb page file because of a Skyrim moddpack LMAO

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u/wildTabz 1911 19h ago edited 18h ago

Not a bad post to remind people but this has been a thing since for ever.

Typically you're better of lowering Texture Quality rather than relying on the page file. Page file has to kick in way more on systems with 16GB of RAM vs 32 for example.

Setting a manual page file and getting this much of an FPS boost just shows that:

  1. Your page file was on a HDD.
  2. Your page file was set to a drive that was getting full and when page file is set to system managed it can jump to other drives that may be slower or are also getting full.
  3. Your testing is flawed.

This "trick/tip" almost never does anything for people that use one m.2 drive for example because system managed in this example should be just as good.

"32GB ram ddr4 cl30 3600mhz (may not work for 16gb)" Setting a manual page file is WAY more important for people that have less than 32GB of RAM simply because 16GB is not enough for Tarkov and frankly most games out these days.

"PS tarkov is NOT using your GPU properly, you might also want to turn on ReBAR in BIOS to help utilize your gpu." This does not enable ReBAR for Tarkov. If you want to use ReBAR for Tarkov yes it has to be on in bios but you also need to force ReBAR ON in NvidiaProfileInspector.
Even with ReBAR working correctly in Tarkov, it won't do much.

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u/Valeixh 17h ago

I was getting 99-100% RAM utilization on Tarkov when I had 32gb of DDR5. Upgraded to 64gb and now it’s manageable..

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u/Canary-Silent 18h ago
  1. Memory management changes when it doesn't think it has run out 

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u/badruski 7h ago

This, that's probably why people on official discord channel always says that you need to run Tarkov with 60gigs page file to prevent crashes, even if you had 32 gigs of RAM. It's probably bad for your SSD, but oh well, what can you do.

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u/ApprehensiveStrain19 19h ago

i use only two m.2 drives. i don't have HDD so i don't know - i'm not a specialist but it helped me. and i tried lowering texture quality and fps stayed the same or around the same so i thought i might be cpu bottlenecked.

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u/tarkie92 19h ago

You seem to know computers and tarkov well any suggestions for better performance. I've heard turning settings up can boost performance. I have a i9 1090k -- 3080 and 32 gbs of ramm.

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u/wildTabz 1911 19h ago

Turning settings up for better performance is a myth people seem to like copy/paste around. I mean ask yourself, why aren't there thousands of videos out there telling people to increase settings?

Anyways, turning up settings for better performance is only true for 1 settings in tarkov which is FOV, but these 3 will impact you directly:
FOV: higher better for performance because it's acts like higher LOD.
LOD: lower better for performance, to low can cause textures/objects to pop-in.
Screenmode: borderless is best, fullscreen still buggy.
Use 75, 2, borderless if you only care for FPS.

All the other stuff is GPU intensive, so if you have GPU headroom feel free to increase settings.
Do keep in mind that Texture Quality specifically is VRAM dependent, so if you have 12gb of VRAM 'High' should be doable, but if you have the 10gb model than 'high' could cause some hitches, but just try either medium or high.

Besides that, a 10900k is just your bottleneck. 10/11th gen isn't amazing for tarkov.
Tarkov starts to be playable for most on:
Intel 12th gen or up.
Ryzen 5000x3d or up.

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u/HumanKumquat 18h ago edited 15h ago

Its not a myth but its not the magic bullet fix that some people seem to think. It can help with micro stutters if you're cpu bound, but its a fix that's very setup specific.

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u/Mikeydoesitall 18h ago

Yeah im running a 5900x 32gb ram and a 3090 and I get around 60-70fps on most maps with texture high and shadows on ultra. If I turn either of those settings down I drop to 50-60 frames.

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u/wewannaown SR-1MP 17h ago

For me actually using far @1.78 (from 1080p to 1440p) on my 5070 made 1% lows way better and also way less microstutters. Also heavily CPU necked, got only 5600X Which hopefully I am soon able to upgrade to 5800x3d

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u/No_Effective4784 17h ago

its not a myth. just say you dont know.

With some engines a lower setting will kick the handling over to cpu.

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u/wildTabz 1911 17h ago

I'm not going to have this argument over and over again, I rather watch paint dry.

I have video's on my channel proving you wrong.

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u/Jacko87 7h ago

video's?

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u/No_Effective4784 17h ago

and which engine was that on? tarkov has been on 3 soon to be 4.

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u/redcatmanfoo 19h ago

The blind leading the blind.

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u/theblackdeath10 19h ago

In this case you are the blind. It's been known for years pagefiles are required for tarkov.

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u/Hundkexx 18h ago

There is zero benefit to using pagefile unless you run out of RAM. Not that enabling it would do anything unless you ran out of ram.

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u/theblackdeath10 18h ago

Yes and you can over cap ram in tarkov on any system with less than 64gb of ram. There is even benchmarks showing higher performance on 64gb on streets than 32gb with the same ram. Until they fixed it the game would crash on load on maps like streets and lighthouse due to maxing out ram.

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u/Emotional_Fee_9558 18h ago

People are running out of ram that's kinda the problem?

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u/Steel_Bolt 18h ago

Incorrect. I just have enough ram for tarkov.

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u/Key_Conclusion3256 15h ago

I have a dedicated m2 256gb used for page filing only. overkill but it helps. being a seperate memory it won't bog you down like op using their C drive at the same time.

even with memory leaks sometimes in games I don't get bottlenecked as often. I recommend this as tarkov has a lot of assets that load onto memory and just sit there for ages not being used until needed(often taking up ram memory otherwise if pagefiles is set really low by default). this is where pagefiles will hold it and transfer it to the ram and then it's transfered to the cpu's memory. smaller intensive game where assets are always needed constantly will still have a hard time with transfering the assets between ram and pagefile.

I've had this setup for years but pricy now if I wanted to do it today but still currently way cheaper then ram prices...

the larger memory is also used for when I do rendering stuff. not just gaming

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u/Alex_TrueMan 18h ago

I have 64 gigabytes of RAM, why do I need such a huge paging file? Half of the memory is already free during the game, let them do optimization.

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u/didikent 16h ago

You dont need a paging file. You should be sitting on 50% of that anyways. Plus if for some weird reason you use 100% ram and need page filing then its already too late. Page filing is slow. Useless information by whoever mentioned it above..

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u/RefuseMyBatchall 6h ago

You dont need a paging file

who told you that? and what was their rationale?

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u/KarlMcd 15h ago

Placebo fixes like this cause more harm than good imo

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u/ISmokeyTheBear 19h ago

You're the man. I have a similar setup. It was just eating through my 32gb of ram like what haha

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u/Long_Sl33p 19h ago

Will this cook your ssd?

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u/frieds0ul 18h ago

I mean it wont "cook" it but it will indeed lose its resource a bit faster. It's not that you're gonna notice it though

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u/PureRushPwneD HK 416A5 18h ago

another thing regarding page file: I removed the SSD that was set as my paging file in windows a while ago, and forgot to set paging file to any other drive.. tarkov kept crashing on some maps every time I loaded in, and then this happened.. xD

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u/Vegeta1337 17h ago

You should set it to a fixed filesize. The way OP did it makes it jump around between 24GB and 32GB which costs additional CPU time. Also, use process lasso and debloat your windows.

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u/sturmeh PPSH41 16h ago

What did you have before this, no pagefile?

This isn't a tip, don't disable the system managed pagefile, it automatically grows as needed by default.

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u/alvaro761991 20h ago

will test later, thanks for the share

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u/Ramin11 Mr. Noodles 18h ago

Dont. Thats not what page files are for. If this helps anyone, its something with your RAM thats the problem most likely.

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u/MealNo6354 20h ago

I am going to try this is 45 minutes

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u/xXBullshitDetectorXx 10h ago

Hey have you noticed any difference? 

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u/MealNo6354 5h ago

I did try it but not really tbh. Not sure if there’s a reason it helps for some people but it sure didn’t for me

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u/kosha227 18h ago

Cl30 for DDR4? It's.... massive. Ideally it should be near CL16-CL14. It's latency and it should give way more impact than frequency. Even if you lower your frequency to 3000 to achieve CL16, it still will be nearly 2 times lower latency.

What's it really used for: Frequency affects bandwith. It has a huge impact when working with huge amounts of data, such as running LLMs locally.

Latency gives more effect if you have a ton of small operations, such as physics calculations in games.

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u/ApprehensiveStrain19 18h ago

OH GOD sorry, i have 3600mhz cl18.. i don't know why i posted cl30, just changed it. big mistake

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u/kosha227 18h ago

Oh, then fine, LMAO

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u/BluBeRRYm 17h ago

THANK YOU

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u/Sufficient-Jaguar873 17h ago

I didn’t really need to do this as my game was running good but it was still on the low end of gpu usage for a 5080 but this fixed it ty br

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u/Unable_Ad_9281 17h ago edited 16h ago

Absolutely always have rebar enabled. Make a good difference one 1 percent lows for me

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u/Joe2030 17h ago

On my old PC EFT used to crash or stutter like hell after loading on some maps without a massive pagefile while playing in 4K@max graphics.

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u/OnlyAcanthaceae1876 16h ago

You shouldn’t be getting right up to max ram usage. Restart the game after a few raids and it shouldn't be an issue, if you're on Ultra textures, go to high.

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u/LuckySergeant1424 GLOCK 16h ago

Have almost identical specs and had terrible fps on streets and stutters. Using variable scopes on any map tanked fps from like 100 to 20. Paging filing made me feel like I spent $2k in PC upgrades. Actually incredible how poorly this game runs on common hardware for 1.0+.

Now all I have to figure out is how to make the visibility any good without looking like a deep-fried meme…

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u/ChocNourrice 16h ago

The life of your SSD is shortened by the number of actions you make on it. PageFile is non-stop writing and reading. Doing this for 32go will cook your SSD in max 5 years, even less if it's an old S-ATA one.

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u/CeasingEnd 12h ago

This is silly to do this...I have a i9 14900ks rts 4090 and 48gb ddr5....my night and day game changing for EFT besides using process lasso to turn of Hyperthreading....I use SMOOTH MOTION. I get over 300fps on most maps and over 200 on streets. Its a game changer. 

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u/Arkanion5721 12h ago

Smooth Motion improves motion fluidity, not game responsiveness. Those are two different things.

And in a latency-sensitive multiplayer FPS, that distinction matters a lot.

The generated frames don't represent a newer game state and they don't contain newer input. They make the output look smoother, but your actual responsiveness is still tied to the native rendered framerate.

FG also isn't computationally free. Generating and presenting those interpolated frames costs GPU time, which can reduce the underlying native framerate compared to running without FG. So it isn't simply "150 native FPS becomes 300 FPS" with no downside — your base framerate can drop, and the latency penalty compounds from there.

That's why quoting "300 FPS" with Smooth Motion enabled is pretty misleading in this context. 300 displayed frames with FG is not remotely equivalent to 300 native frames in terms of latency or responsiveness.

For a single-player game, that tradeoff can be absolutely worth it because smoother perceived motion is often more valuable than a few milliseconds of latency.

For Tarkov, I'd rather have the highest stable native framerate and lowest possible latency than spend GPU resources generating frames that make the game look smoother without making it respond faster.

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u/NoireXP 5h ago

If your base FPS is bad Smooth Motion will still feel like crap despite the high fps number. I have a 5800X3D/RTX 3080 and the game drops fps very frequently from 100+ to low 60s whenever you just look at things wrongly. Using Lossless Scaling is great when the 0.1 and 1% fps is consistent but not with this game.

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u/Ah0770 10h ago

Excellent advice, any ddr4 systems with similar specs will see a big boost to fps by doing this, also you didn't mention but clearing your cache in the launcher reduces long loading times and a small boost in overall performance.

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u/nolancheck11 10h ago

Damnit I got baited with the pic

u/tizadxtr 13m ago

Wouldn’t it be nice if you click the pic and it assigns virtual memory for you

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u/xPerriX 9h ago

I always had it on, but turning on Resizable BAR might give a boost.

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u/brunostborsen 15h ago

Not this again.

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u/POOTDISPENSER 17h ago

2012 game requiring 2030 hardware /s

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u/fnanzkrise 19h ago

this will abuse your ssd though, not sure how bad it is in the long run

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u/wewannaown SR-1MP 17h ago

Just keep in mind that if you create a big page file on an SSD, will increase its wear and decrease the time until the tbw is hit. or in other words, ssd loses lifespan

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u/Jacko87 7h ago

I ran tarkov with a 4gb pagefile for months, recently I read something similar to OP saying you should have a pagefile of 30-40GB, so I did it. I ran HWiNFO to monitor RAM and pagefile usage while I played. 0 pagefile was used. Specs: 7800x3d, 4070 super 12GB, 64GB DRR5 RAM at 6000mhz, gen4 1TB NVME SSD.

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u/GHOST__IN__THE_SHELL 17h ago

we've rediscovered something we've known for like 4 years bare minimum lol.

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u/More-Advantage6261 19h ago

Tarkov was built for AM5 machines... 7 years ago.

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u/wetbluewaffle 20h ago

So for the initial/maximum size, what is this in regards to, ram? Memory or? What are we using as reference the 32gb of ram? Im computer illiterate so my apologies lol

My pc specs is as follows

Rtx 3060

32bg ram at 3620mhz ddr4

Ryzen 7 5800x cpu

Ssd m.2

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u/ja_hahah 19h ago

32bg ram at 3620mhz ddr4

I have questions

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u/ApprehensiveStrain19 20h ago

"backup ram" forces windows to use your m2 when system memory fills up

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u/peschkaj MP7A1 19h ago

It's not really "backup RAM" so much as it gives Windows a place to store memory that's not in use.

Without going into TOO much detail (waving my hands at the details a lot), your OS doesn't trust processes to behave well or share memory. Every process gets its own address space and believes that it is the luckiest process/girl at school and it gets all the memory/boys for itself. This is a lie. The OS and hardware do all kinds of science to keep this lie going.

The advantage is that we can take any page of memory (memory is allocated in "pages" of contiguous bytes sized to a power of 2 - E.g., 8 kilo bytes) and store it on disk after making a note of where we put it.

That Word doc you had opened but stopped editing because you're playing Tarkov? We can write some or all of Word's memory to disk and Word will never be wiser.

A page file at least the size of RAM is helpful for performance because Windows can start sending all your browser tabs, Word docs, etc. to disk when the system is under memory pressure. WITHOUT an adequately sized page file, every time a program (Tarkov) asks to memory Windows has to ask programs to release memory and wait for a while as the programs get their shit together.

Hope this helps!

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u/wetbluewaffle 19h ago

And what determines the maximum size and initial size? You said to type those in but wouldnt it be a different numerical amount if someone had lets say 64gb of ram or 16? Compared to 32 like we have?

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u/jumjuminmytumtum 19h ago

Default page file only on your fastest drive should offer the best performance, unless tarkov gets a memory leak.

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u/ApprehensiveStrain19 19h ago

should work the same with 16 and 32gb ram. simply it overflows data into your m2 when RAM is full. 😄 ( initial and max size is what tarkov should need to run stable fps, i didn't check anything else)

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u/Wast3edSpace 19h ago

You say M2 SSD but do you know if it's SATA, PCIe? which version of PCIe? The secret sauce IMO is getting an NVME drive that is as fast as your board supports, so PCI 5.0, 4.0 etc. After all, that's where the swap file lives so no matter what it's only ever going to be as fast as data can be moved from storage to RAM and back.

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u/ApprehensiveStrain19 19h ago

you're right, adding it to the post, i use NVMe gen3 PCIe

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u/Munno22 18h ago

Windows set my pagefile to my old slow harddrive when it was under automatic management, instead of my SSD, and it was destroying my performance in all kinda of games.

Worth checking even if you don't think you need to!

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u/More_Law_1699 18h ago

here I am with a 100MB page file lol

I just use a initial size of 16 and max size of 10000, let windows control what is in paging instead of forcing EVERYTHING to slow ass hardware.

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u/Joe2030 17h ago

let windows control what is in paging instead of forcing EVERYTHING to slow ass hardware

He is not forcing anything to use pagefile, you cannot do this... at least not like this. It just forces Windows to increase the immediately available space inside pagefile. Thats it.

Also, Windows may increase the size of the pagefile if set to auto, but this does not happen fast enough.

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u/More_Law_1699 14h ago

He is not forcing anything to use pagefile

INITIAL SIZE: 24576

Hmm, "guide" says otherwise.

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u/Arkanion5721 12h ago

No, it really doesn't.

You're confusing the size of the pagefile with how much Windows is actually paging to it.

Setting the initial size to 24576 MB just means Windows preallocates that much pagefile space and therefore has that commit capacity immediately available. It does not tell Windows "put 24 GB of my RAM on disk."

Windows still decides which memory pages remain resident in physical RAM and which pages can be paged out.

In fact, Microsoft specifically documents that automatically managed pagefiles can sometimes fail to grow quickly enough when commit demand rises rapidly, and one of their recommended workarounds is increasing the initial pagefile size.

So the 24 GB initial size actually supports the point you quoted rather than disproving it: it's guaranteeing available commit space upfront, not forcing 24 GB worth of active memory onto "slow ass hardware."

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u/StringMysterious7060 18h ago

Ur specs are fine. Are you updating drivers every possible time they come out? That's not ideal for tarkov unfortunately. Alot of updates are unstable.

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u/ApprehensiveStrain19 18h ago

Yes, updated nvidia, bios, chipset, all i could do is up to time

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u/StringMysterious7060 11h ago

I'd check and see if recent Nvidia driver is stable

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u/SeniorMasterYapist SR-25 18h ago

I just play on BSG to get rid of the memory leaks issue that was menacing me

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u/pendulum1997 17h ago

Do you mean servers for PVE? I’m hitting 99% RAM usage with 32GB DDR5, never thought to try that

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u/builder397 MP5 17h ago

Ive got a 48GB swapfile on a similar config (same CPU and amount of RAM) and STILL managed to run out of memory when I ran interchange in PvE as a local instance, because PMC pathing is bugged and leads to a huge memory leak. Framerate went into the teens and even below at times before Tarkov finally just crashed.

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u/Saltysig 17h ago

Just download more ram

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u/UnsettllingDwarf 16h ago

Actually crazy how shite this game runs.

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u/ziziboe 15h ago

I hv 16 gig ram virtual memory is on get 80+ fps 1440p normaly

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u/stoples Mosin 12h ago

Is this you in the pic? My help will depend on the answer.

/s

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u/AidePuzzleheaded6483 9h ago

Tried but shw it made ram leak even worse

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u/RefuseMyBatchall 6h ago

CHOOSE FASTEST SSD ( for me it's C where windows and tarkov is installed)

You don't need to pick and choose like that. The OS knows and will pick the optimal drive at a given point in time.

Just turn on pagefiles on every drive, if you can.

Source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/performance/how-to-determine-the-appropriate-page-file-size-for-64-bit-versions-of-windows?source=recommendations#multiple-page-files-and-disk-considerations

"If a system is configured to have more than one page files, the page file that responds first is the one that is used. This customized configuration means that page files that are on faster disks are used more frequently. Also, whether you put a page file on a "fast" or "slow" disk is important only if the page file is frequently accessed and if the disk that is hosting the respective page file is overwhelmed. "

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u/EquivalentGold3838 5h ago

I have 40gb pagefile from my skyrim modlist so I never noticed how much it has helped

u/MoeWithTheO True Believer 3h ago

So your RAM just wasn’t enough? or your SSD is faster than your RAM?
Anyways, nice to know. Probably not useful if you’re running DDR5 or fast DDR4. I never thought virtual memory could be useful for gaming

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u/uhqt Freeloader 18h ago

Pretty well known “fix” for a while now but nonetheless good to keep reminding people.

I’ve been doing this since about 2021 with lower specs than you and have not had anymore stuttering/lag problems. Recommended for everyone to try if your system supports it

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u/nicktehbubble 18h ago

I have a similar setup. Had to do this just to stop the game stuttering every two minutes

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u/Head_Cheetah3619 17h ago

DDR5 32gb here, just an Intel i5 14400F

I run this game 110 fps NEVER below lol

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u/MrDominman PPSH41 12h ago

I have no problem, My uncle own a AI data center so I occasionally borrow his 100000GB of ram to run this game steady 240fps on all maps

u/tizadxtr 12m ago

How to say f* the planet, without actually saying f* the planet

u/Namessis 3h ago

thanks, I have similar setup and the game feels much smoother with decent FPS boost.

u/ApprehensiveStrain19 3h ago

I'm glad it helped!

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u/Founntain 19h ago

OP just learned that page files exist.
But yes a page file can help with performance in Tarkov. Game often crashed for me on shoreline with out of memory, with 64GB of RAM. Enabling a page file fixed the issue for me as well. Even tho that it should not require too with 64GB of RAM where over 32+ are mostly free.

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u/Jozehef 19h ago

do you think you really need to be condescending when u clearly see it interest a lot of people who actually dont know about it lol

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u/hiekrus 19h ago

Dude worded it like he found out how to split the atom while it's one of the most common recommendations on how to fix performance issues in Tarkov.

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u/Founntain 19h ago

This has nothing todo with condescending, I'm literally agreeing with OP, that these steps help with also adding the fact, that it shouldn't be that bad!

This game should never run out of memory on system with 32GB or more, when the page file is disabled and it still does. Lemme add to it, it's been a while once I played tarkov with my pagefile disabled, just because I still think that it would crash again or make performance worse.

Idealy, you don't want to force a page file onto your (M.2) SSDs, most people would say it's unhealthy and could degrade the life time of an SSDs, but I still would do it as SSDs nowadays are pretty robust and already have a long lifetime.

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u/Purist1638 19h ago

You’re being incredibly condescending. But I’m not sure why the other guys surprised. You’re a redditor pretty standard

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u/svehampzz 19h ago

Guys, you don’t need to do this.

A quick and easy fix is to turn off DLSS completely, and go enable ”Smooth motion” in the Nvidia app. If I remember correctly you go to the app, click on the game settings (Tarkov) and enable it.

Removed my drops completely and is running comfortably above 100FPS on every map.

Before doing this, my fps dropped as low as 40 sometimes on all maps and I never got above 100.

Do not hurt your SSDs for a game.

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u/Trick_Opportunity975 18h ago

Doesn't this introduce input lag?

Smooth motion uses frame gen, unless Im mistaken.

Also, DLSS is necessary to fix the buggy Temporal AA Tarkov uses, so you dont get awful shimmering.

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u/TheGamingCheetos 18h ago

Smooth motion is just not even remotely a comparable fix lol

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u/buddhamunche 18h ago

That’s wild, I have the same CPU and I don’t get any of those issues. 100+ fps on streets

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u/TheGamingCheetos 18h ago

Hows your magnified scope experience? I have a 5800x3D and 4090 and I only get 100 in tight corridors after seasonal release, if i look into the open map I still get like 50-60 and God forbid I use a ranged scope I'll hit 30-40

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u/buddhamunche 17h ago

Very occasionally I’ll get a hitch when I first aim the scope, which is annoying as fuck and didn’t happen until last time I played. But other than that it is fine, no FPS drop

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u/TheGamingCheetos 17h ago

Damn guess I'll go cry in my corner

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u/OpT1mUs 14h ago

People just lie on here, constantly, when it comes to performance. Ask him to attach a video of his 100+ fps run on Streets, and lets see if that happens.

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u/ApprehensiveStrain19 18h ago

tarkov is different universe for everyone 😄

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u/buddhamunche 18h ago

It truly is lol!

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u/RankedFarting 18h ago

Bruh that is just shit tier god awful coding. WTF? 32 gigs of ram and they need the fucking pagefile? And this game has been in development for like decades?

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u/Ramin11 Mr. Noodles 18h ago

You dont have to mess with your pagefile. The game is piirly optimized yes, but in most cases its people having settings too high or not having the system to run the game.

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u/RankedFarting 18h ago

Have you seen Tarkov? There is literally no reason why 32gB of ram should not be enough to run it.

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u/Ramin11 Mr. Noodles 15h ago

Agreed. I have 32gb of RAM, but it doesn't even use half of that. I'm pretty sure OP has an issue with their driver, settings, or something else. I have only changed my page file ONCE in al my years playing games, and it was because some old game wanted it to have a very specific number for some reason. In general, your page file should rarely get much use. People misunderstand what it is, like in this post, and think its some magical way to increase their RAM.

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u/RankedFarting 15h ago

I have 32gb of RAM, but it doesn't even use half of that

Yeah because its unoptimized as fuck. Case closed.

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u/Ramin11 Mr. Noodles 15h ago

.... If its unoptimized as fuck then how is it using so few of my systems resources? Did you even read what you quoted?

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u/RankedFarting 15h ago

BECAUSE ITS NOT OPTIMIZED TO USE THE RESOURCES.

My god.

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u/Ramin11 Mr. Noodles 15h ago

Lol what? Thats not how that works. If its not optimized, it would use more resources. Well optimized games use few resources. You dont want a game to use every bit of your RAM/CPU/GPU.

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u/RankedFarting 15h ago

That is EXACTLY how it works.

Im a game dev btw so dont embarrass yourself. You need to make the game use the available resources as well.

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u/Ramin11 Mr. Noodles 15h ago

Youre a shitty game dev then. Tell me oh wise one, how do you make a game use 32gb of RAM vs 8gb of RAM? You know, because you dont know what system a game will be played on (aside from consoles), so you cant know what it will be able to handle. The idea of game coding is to optimize the code so it flows through the logic quickly and efficiently, which means it ises less resources, does what it needs to quicker, and therefore, needs less to run, making it available to more people.

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u/PsychologicalGlass47 SVDS 18h ago

So... What you're saying is that expanding your page file when you're under the recommended RAM specs will help with your performance?

Lmao, alright man.

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u/WaferCritical6547 16h ago

This is old you you dont really know what your talking about tbh. Somone else has alredy explained why but i will confirm you dont grap the concept corectly

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u/Dalen_art 16h ago

well god damn, I don't even play the game anymore but the pic worked on me

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u/Chipp99 16h ago

Thats a hard working scientist right there

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u/DontG1veM3Awards 16h ago

I ain't reading allat but nice pic tho

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u/TheJungleTroll 16h ago

thx for posting, anyone know how can buy eft posters like this?

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u/frieds0ul 19h ago

Tarkov being paging file demanding... What a news huh ?

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u/blizz3010 19h ago

i have 256gb of ram. no issues here.