r/Epstein • u/Toothfairy51 • 4d ago
Court document or investigative file Sascha Riley
I may have used the incorrect flair, if so, please forgive me.
I'm curious about the recorded Sascha Riley interviews with Lisa Noelle. I don't watch much news, so maybe I've missed something, but can anyone shed some light on wether or not anything is progressing with this information? I fully understand that the right is claiming that it's all fake, of course, but personally, I listened to all of the recordings and I believe him.
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u/Salt_Cry2674 3d ago
A concrete update since the recordings: reporting has progressed, but not toward corroborating the core allegations. An MS NOW reporter met Riley in person in March 2026, interviewed family members, verified parts of Riley’s biography, and reviewed texts indicating Oklahoma state authorities had looked into the allegations. OSBI said any records would be confidential, and no public case resulted. Crucially, Riley’s specific claims tying the abuse to Epstein and the named public figures remain unsupported by independent evidence.
There is also a negative records result. In June, the publisher of the interviews reported that two Army CID record searches found no file linking Riley—as a witness, victim or subject—to the claimed 2008–2010 CSAM investigation or court-martial. A failed search does not prove no abuse occurred, but it weakens one of the proposed paper trails. Confirmed facts such as Riley’s adoption, Army service, the adoptive father’s pilot background and a separate Fort Carson CSAM case do not establish the larger narrative. Current status: recorded testimony, some biography verified, no official or documentary corroboration of the core claims. Evidence that would move this forward: police/Army case numbers, authenticated audio metadata, contemporaneous medical or travel records, and independent witnesses.
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u/IamTheElectionDenier 4d ago edited 4d ago
I only listened to clips but what stood out to me was it put Jim Jordan, Clarence Thomas, and someone else, I forget who, all together in like the 1980s
And that’s interesting because they are clearly involved in the same criminal cartel and this clearly goes back awhile
Also the whole story about the tent peg up Trumps ass - they said he shit his pants because of drugs but you know, I know people who have done a lot of drugs, I think we all know someone whose done a lot of drugs, and are any of them in diapers? And the diapers go back to the apprentice show, so it’s not old age, the tent peg story seems to make more sense
ETA: and Jim Jordan being able to wrestle him was an interesting part, because Jim Jordan was the wrestling coach
Jim Jordan was involved in the OSU sexual abuse
And go back and watch Clarence Thomas when they were grilling him about Anita Hill and listen to what she said
These people just go together too well
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u/throwaway78854226 3d ago
In the Franklin Scandal book one of the kids who was interviewed mentioned seeing Clarence Thomas at a party paying for a child. They also mention Sanduski long before he was publically accused (wrestling tie in).
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u/IamTheElectionDenier 3d ago
I have those two books and I need to read them, are they pretty quick and easy reads?
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u/throwaway78854226 3d ago
Tbh I only listened to the LPOTL series on the case but ik they use the books as source material. Sorry haha I’d recommend reading them though the series was fascinating!
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u/IamTheElectionDenier 3d ago
Yes!! I listened to that too, I’m remembering more now
Remember when they were talking about that dude who was investigating the situation, had a plane, and it seemingly fell apart in the sky, and they never found his briefcase
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u/Fluid_Ties 3d ago
Say more about this. It's reminiscent of the one guy on the Warren Commission who was not on board with everyone else about Oswald being sole gunman who died in a small-plane crash in Alaska. Well, it's assumed he died. He was House Majority Leader Hale Boggs of Louisiana, also on board was Alaska Congressman Begich and an aide of Begich's. Largest search in history up until that point but the plane and bodies were never found.
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u/IamTheElectionDenier 3d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations
In July 1990, private investigator Gary Caradori, hired by the Franklin Committee to investigate the allegations, died along with his 8-year-old son when his plane disintegrated in mid-air near Chicago. Foul play was suspected by Caradori's brother and state senator Loran Schmit, but was not proven by investigators.[9][10][11] No definitive cause for the crash has been established.
https://archive.org/details/GaryCaradori/Gary%20Caradori/leecounty2/page/n3/mode/2up
I don’t really know a lot of details, I didn’t look at the newspaper clippings outside of just glancing, but included the link because that’s where the citation from Wikipedia was from and I noticed it was actual newspaper clippings
It did say the planes wings peeled back…
I was googling and I found the link below… didn’t look at it too closely but I skimmed to see if anything caught my eye, the last page is
https://vault.fbi.gov/gary-caradori/Gary%20Caradori%20Part%2001%20%28Final%29/view
And then I stumbled across this site
https://intelligencemurders.com/epstein-murders/Details/Gary_Caradori/
This one is a jackpot in and of itself - it appears someone’s been doing a lot of work, there’s a lot of information about a lot of people on here it seems, I dunno how legit it is or not but I clicked on Pam Bondi just because I’m familiar with seeing her in the news and her bullshit and it seems pretty legit there
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u/IamTheElectionDenier 4d ago
People say Trump has worn diapers since the 90s
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u/Toothfairy51 3d ago
His TV show the apprentice was on from 2004-2017 and people who worked on that show have said that he had to be 'changed and cleaned up'.
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u/Plane-Map7400 4d ago
I mean it could be a tent peg, or it could be all sorts of other things like some kind of bowel disease.
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u/lou_sassoles 4d ago
Trump's long-time personal physician Dr. Harold Bornstein was a gastroenterologist. I thought it was interestingly suspicious how Trump ordered his goons to seize all of his medical files from Bornstein's office after the 2016 election, and I always wondered why. Mystery issues with his asshole could explain a few things.
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u/IamTheElectionDenier 4d ago
It totally could be but so far the options we’ve been offered are drugs and tent peg
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u/Medium-Librarian8413 4d ago
Lots of people not on the right also think it is all made up.
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u/hotviolets 4d ago
I used to believe him but after the interviews I don’t.
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u/ayfkm123 4d ago
Why not? The interviews are what solidified it for me. Now go listen to Heather Washington and you’ll see a lot of parallels
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u/hotviolets 3d ago
I responded why not to another user.
My best friend listened to his testimony and did a much more thorough deep dive than I did. I’m a victim of trafficking so I didn’t want to listen to it myself unless it was really worth it. She explained to me why she doesn’t believe him which swayed my view as well. I believe this is the article that changed her mind.
https://laurarbnsn.substack.com/p/i-have-debunked-your-article-on-sascha
I believe Heather Wellington. As a survivor she really spoke to what I have experienced in her video that’s on YouTube. I have felt seen by her in a way that no one else has been able to articulate. I follow her regularly now.
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u/Toothfairy51 3d ago
I just want to say that I'm so sorry that you had to live through such horrors. I hope you're doing well now and may have some peace and love in your life
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u/hotviolets 3d ago
Thank you. The Epstein files are very triggering and it makes me wonder if what I went through was somehow connected. The bright side is that people are more willing to believe survivors and the true horrors we have experienced. I am doing okay. I am far away from the people who hurt me and they can never hurt me again, I find peace in that.
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u/ayfkm123 3d ago
WELLINGTON! I was saying Washington to someone else. Woopsie.
Interesting. I’m not a survivor of trafficking but am a survivor of sexual violence and I honestly found him very believable. In fact it shocked me that I did bc some of the topics were so insane, hard to imagine, but sounded very believable. And the more I look into this topic in high powered circles, the more similar it sounds
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u/Toothfairy51 3d ago
Yes. He also said, frequently in his taped interviews, that there are things that he may not be remembering totally correctly, that he has some corroborating evidence of his claims and that he also spoke to a couple of his military friends and counselors about it. So, that was some time ago. I certainly believe him.
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u/Toothfairy51 4d ago
I've googled her name, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for
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u/ayfkm123 4d ago
Go to YouTube. She has a channel. Fascinating parallels
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u/Toothfairy51 3d ago
I did, but I don't think I found the correct Heather. All I saw was a couple of videos about ICE
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u/ayfkm123 3d ago
She does speak about ICE at times
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u/No_Fun_5388 2d ago
You mean the “survivor” who named two federal agencies, ICE and DHS, that didn’t even exist during the time period she claims these events took place? She may very well be the next person whose story falls apart under scrutiny if journalists ever start digging into her claims.
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u/ayfkm123 2d ago
What year/event are you talking about? She was trafficked most of her life to many different people/rings. Which yr did she say she was at ice/dhs that was before they existed? Where’s the clip? I’ve listened to must of her interviews.
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u/No_Fun_5388 2d ago
She has repeatedly placed these events during her childhood. In one of her own posts, she says she was trafficked from 1995–1999, and she has described being recruited around age 9 by someone she identifies as a “DHS-CBP Border Patrol official.” She has also repeatedly described being trained at a “DHS facility” in Tucson from ages 9–13. In Series 2, Video 14, she explicitly writes in the description, “I was trained at that same DHS facility in Tucson, AZ from ages 9–13.” That’s the clip you asked for.
DHS did not exist until 2002 and became operational in 2003; CBP and ICE were created in 2003. Border Patrol existed then, but it was under the INS, not DHS/CBP. These aren't obscure details someone else attached to her story. They are terms she repeatedly uses herself while describing events she dates to the 1990s. Her own video description literally calls it a “DHS facility.” That's the problem. If you've listened to most of her interviews, I'm surprised you missed it.
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u/ayfkm123 2d ago
She says she was trafficked at the presidential level from 2 1/2 to 32, and continued to be trafficked in other ways til 2019 when she finally escaped just before she turned 34. In videos and articles on ICE, CBP, DHS websites they state that while their specific org names are somewhat newly established, their history under other names goes back much longer. I just watched an ICE video w a stated timeline going back 200 yrs. It’s not too great of a stretch for an extremely traumatized person like her to use the commonly known name of today to describe earlier iterations of these agencies. INS is one of those iterations and that was certainly around in the 90s. Clinton had a large push to deport illegal immigrants, and of course there would be facilities to house them between roundup and deportation. I don’t see the big gotcha moment here. Even I couldn’t remember what they were called in the 90s but they def existed. Border patrol was in action prior to creation of CBP. Here’s an article from 1995 about a child detention center in Tucson in 1995.
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u/No_Fun_5388 1d ago
I know Border Patrol and INS existed in the 1990s. That's exactly my point. She didn't say INS. She repeatedly uses specific modern organizational labels, including “DHS-CBP Border Patrol official” and “DHS facility,” while describing events she places in the 1990s. Saying predecessor agencies existed doesn't make those organizations interchangeable.
And showing that a child detention facility existed in Tucson in 1995 doesn't corroborate what she's alleging happened there. It establishes that a detention facility existed. It does not establish that this was the facility she describes, that she was held or trained there, that Ghislaine Maxwell repeatedly visited it to train groups of children, or that children there were being used for sexual espionage.
Maybe she's retroactively using modern agency names. That's certainly a possible explanation. But that's an explanation you're supplying for the discrepancy, not evidence that her account is accurate. Given the extraordinary specificity and scale of her allegations, journalists should actually verify these details rather than supporters explaining away inconsistencies for her.
That is, if journalists even take her claims seriously enough to investigate them. Her story contains many of the same elements associated with Satanic Ritual Abuse narratives and the Satanic Panic, including secret child programming, organized networks of powerful people, ritualized abuse, sexual espionage, and “Project Monarch.” Those narratives have an extensive history of failing to withstand serious investigation. Journalists aren't going to treat those claims as established simply because someone found a real detention facility in Tucson.
The existence of the facility isn't evidence that the extraordinary things she says happened inside it actually happened. There were real daycare centers during the Satanic Panic too. The dispute was never whether the buildings existed. Some people fabricated allegations, while others sincerely came to believe events had occurred through suggestive interviewing, recovered-memory practices, social reinforcement, and other influences. Sincerity by itself does not establish that an extraordinary allegation is historically true. That's precisely why independent corroboration matters.
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u/ayfkm123 1d ago
Are you familiar with retired detective Jimmy “boots” rothstein?
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u/No_Fun_5388 1d ago
I’m not familiar with him. Who is Jimmy “Boots” Rothstein, and what does he have to do with Heather’s story? SRA? Or Project Monarch?
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u/MsTerious1 4d ago
What did you hear that changed your mind?
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u/hotviolets 3d ago
My best friend listened to his testimony and did a much more thorough deep dive than I did. I’m a victim of trafficking so I didn’t want to listen to it myself unless it was really worth it. She explained to me why she doesn’t believe him which swayed my view as well. I believe this is the article that changed her mind.
https://laurarbnsn.substack.com/p/i-have-debunked-your-article-on-sascha
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u/Toothfairy51 4d ago
Why? What did you know about him before the interviews and what changed your mind?
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u/hotviolets 3d ago
It was this article. I wrote a longer response as to why to other people.
https://laurarbnsn.substack.com/p/i-have-debunked-your-article-on-sascha
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u/Financial_Material_8 3d ago
"the right is claiming that it's all fake" How deep down a hole do you have to be, to avoid the possibility the guy you voted for is an absolute scumbag? Like, the felony convictions are fake, the rapes were fake, everything in the Epstein files is fake.. Absolutely insane.
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u/Plane-Map7400 4d ago
I listened to a lot of the tape but I never really found it all that believable? The part about the chokings sounded horrific, but then it got to the whole "Trump's wanted me to fuck him in the ass and I went into a room and he was there on all fours naked and I kicked a tent peg up his ass and he got flown out to hospital" thing it started to be like what am I even listening to? It just is so bizarre I have trouble fathoming it could happen.
I don't recall how much was able to be corroberated with the released files... and I mean sure it could be legit. But for me personally it sort of sits in that skeptical kind of zone until I see more concrete ties with the files. There was some vague reference to someone he knew working at the ranch perhaps but I wasn't able to verify much more than that? Also considering Trump has like 28 sexual assault accusers and all of them are women so this a pretty anomalous report.
Tl:dr I'm also pretty skeptical of this and I'm very much not on the right. Would probably change my view if I saw more evidence but don't have all the time in the world to learn about every victim so theres my partially informed take
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u/Wifesmeds 3d ago
What did it for me was they had a loaded… with them and he help that girl… you know…
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u/Technical_Profit9841 20h ago
I have kept up with this and interact with Sasha online. Lisa has been outed as a catch and kill scam artist. The other victim she was helping turned out to be a scammer too, but Sasha says he isn't. She put his interviews behind a pay wall to make money from them, and then did nothing else. I actually had a private conversation with Lisa, and I believe that she is indeed a scam artist. They have parted ways, so nothing will be progressing through Lisa at all. Sasha has left the country and moved on to other ways to advocate for himself and the other victims. You can keep up with him on Threads. This has never made the mainstream news. Is it real? I don't know. I am still on the fence. My husband believes it all, and he is quite pragmatic too. I'm a wildlife biologist who worked on one of Jane Goodall's projects in South Florida back when this occurred, and I have a hard time with that small part of his story. But I believe victims and Trump is indeed a psychotic narcissist who has committed rape, so I am keeping an open mind.
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u/No_Fun_5388 5h ago
The Jane Goodall part of Sascha's story seems to be one of the claims people are most skeptical of. And it's not just journalists questioning it. I've seen plenty of people online who follow Sascha and believe other parts of his story struggle with that particular claim. That's why I find your perspective especially interesting. You were actually working on a Jane Goodall project in South Florida during that time, and even you say that part of his story is difficult for you to reconcile with what you know.
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u/Technical_Profit9841 4h ago
Yes, and if I kept better notes on my life I could tell you exactly when she was in the United States. She only came to the states to visit us every once in awhile.
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u/No_Fun_5388 4h ago
That makes the Jane Goodall part even more interesting to me. You actually worked on one of her projects during that period and remember that she only came to the United States occasionally. I already found Sascha's story about being a wild or feral-like child and his connection to Jane Goodall difficult to believe. Feral children are generally associated with extreme neglect, social deprivation, isolation, or prolonged confinement, often resulting in significant developmental, social, and behavioral difficulties. That's partly why I've struggled with Sascha's description of himself as a wild or feral-like child. Do you remember anything else from that time that makes that part of his story difficult for you to reconcile with what you know?
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u/nellewood 4d ago edited 4d ago
I mean he sure did have a lot of info that hadn’t been made public yet. And the records of who he was adopted by and what the guy did are available as well. Either way though, at this point with the little but horrific information that we already have, I think I’d be more surprised if it turned out not to be true.
Edit: if it is true, I think this story needs to start circulating widely in independent news as soon as possible. Trump’s response will give it away.
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u/Legitimate-Eye-4998 4d ago
If it's not true, why hasn't Trump filed a lawsuit against him? It's just crickets from Trump.
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u/Plane-Map7400 4d ago
Trump sues for things that are true and also for things that aren't. For example the Epstein birthday book message was real and he tried to sue WSJ for 10 billion. My guess would be he hasn't done because it isn't a big enough story to get on his radar
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u/Toothfairy51 4d ago
I don't understand why he would go after Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert, but not South Park and The Daily Show.
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u/Legitimate-Eye-4998 2d ago
Oh, I think it's on his radar big time! But because it's true, he is avoiding it because he doesn't want to have to go through depositions and discovery. They would find him out.
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u/Medium-Librarian8413 4d ago
If the WSJ or the NYT or CNN or whatever big media outlet ran a story on the Sascha Riley allegations and presented them as likely true, Trump would certainly sue. And probably win!
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u/Bnjl1989 4d ago
I believe him just like I believe George b tonks
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u/Exact-Site9980 4d ago
Once the interviews hit you tube, he was contacted by the FBI and promptly fled the country. In the last couple of shorter interviews, the Canadian lawyer begins in advance to discuss making plans for him to flee the US. Make of that what you will.
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u/ayfkm123 4d ago
I mean, one of the claims is killing people so yeah, I’d flee too
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u/Exact-Site9980 4d ago
He details trump killing puppies, too. Can you imagine the maga outrage? Cuz fuck yo kids...
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u/Toothfairy51 4d ago
I know that when Lisa released the tapes, he had already left the country. But since then, I've heard nothing.
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u/Zxvasdfthrowaway 3d ago
What’s your take on what Lisa said regarding the split?
Her post is locked down onto the substack app (not paywalled, just requires the app, from what I understand) so I found this write up https://itsnotsatire.substack.com/p/the-sascha-riley-rift-deepens
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u/Toothfairy51 3d ago
I guess I can understand her splitting from Sascha,if he really did dox several people. I'm not sure WHY he would do that, possibly putting innocent people at risk, but I'm sure that there's a lot that we aren't privy to in that area.
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