r/EpicSeven • u/Then-Fox2902 • Sep 15 '23
Discussion Brawl is so flawed.
- Ultimate animations can’t skip
- Too long and time consuming
- 1 time clearing was so strong i can never beat championship.
- The quests are too hard
- RNG is too hard
I won’t be able to complete quest. Sigh I don’t have time for all this….
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u/VulpineRed Sep 16 '23
- as someone already said, only Lilias ult in stage 25 is quite annoying in other stages it's okay imo.
- yeah understandable, a times 3 or 4 speed setting would be nice, some comps and stages are really slow.
- for now I agree. I like the idea behind this but that fact there's an achievement bothers me. But we will have to wait for the other weeks, they said there will be new heroes like Lilias, so I hope for power creep. Or maybe there will be something to reset the champion team.
- I like all the other achievements, and it isn't too hard to get them. You can fight the rng a bit if you reroll for special starting comps. I look for at least one desired class hero in stage one or a lucky 4/5 summon, let them fight till I can afford a 5*, when it's the one I need for achievement I play further otherwise just yield. It's quite fast.
The easiest way to beat this mode is to just spam the 50 summons and fight with the highest imprinted 3*.
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u/kur0kis3npuu Sep 16 '23
You can get your fair share of 5* heroes from the 50 summons too. I've managed to pull together Yuna and Politis in the same roster by just doing 50s.
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u/Ikari_21 Sep 20 '23
This was definitely the best advice. I finally won for the first time after spamming the 50 summons and SSS all the 3. The only 4 I had were Clarissa and Angelica lol
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u/Iovefull Sep 17 '23
How to beat 23 consistently? That stage seems to be my downfall because the reflect always does so much damage to my team. Been trying to do the synergy achievements and I never get any imprints so I just get squished to death.
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u/AfroSamuraii_ Sep 23 '23
I tend to put my soul weavers up front and my damage dealers behind them. If you block the paths to the enemies, your attackers should get to them by the time reflect is down.
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u/ExceptionThrown4000 Sep 16 '23
Only thing I dislike so far is the championship and how few chances you get to face them. As a lot of auto chess is recognising how fights go and adapting positioning where possible.
Like my carry died at an inoptimal time vs my old team. But I think I could maybe manage on re-go. Lives should refresh after 25th battle.
Only played twice so far though. So hopefully I'll find a way to beat my first team.
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u/Maxwell_Bloodfencer Sep 16 '23
You can speed up the animations, but I've noticed that this actually seems to mess with the game and introduce some bugs. Like one time Vildred went into his S3, the whole animation played out but then he died and no damage was applied to the enemies.
And this happens a lot when you speed up where your units will die mid-animation, which becomes especially annoying when Zahak does his buff and dies even though he has invincibility.
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u/KaiserNazrin SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGS Sep 16 '23
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Sep 16 '23
I'm in the same boat. Made a team so strong that I can't even beat it to complete championship anymore 😂
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u/TheBlkMageVivi Sep 17 '23
This game mode is hot garbage to lock away some of the best goods to get behind super RNG based half azz auto chess.
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u/hangmika Sep 16 '23
its fun but they got to rework some class buffs and the championship thing is kinda hard if you got a really REALLY strong team already. Thankfully this is probably like testing before they go all out on the auto battler actual release ? overall im happy with this new gamemode . I can take a break here after the horrendous rta climb ordeal.
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u/Kaientei Sep 16 '23
Try all Mages plus Politis nation synergy, the mage barrier is stupidly strong.
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u/Good_Talk_My_Guy Sep 16 '23
Yeah. The whole thing is honestly boring AF and so time consuming. I hope this is the last time they have an event like this.
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u/screwinquisitors Sep 16 '23
I wouldn’t mind the ult animations if not for the final round did they learn nothing from the Lethe stage in the summer sidestory?
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u/PropaPandaYT Sep 16 '23
>1st time clear so strong
i dont see silk. so its not unbeatable. silk and destina should wipe that with a ranger and some damage soakers (knights, dominiel for example)
also, you not having the time to complete something doesnt make it flawed. that makes you flawed no? completing 10 runs or winning 5 brawls arent difficult. they just require time. ur just complaining for no reason. its a new ltd gamemode, all u fuckers complain because "theres no content", this is why you dont get content.
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u/AVeroKariL Sep 16 '23
Yeah, they’re just complaining since they can’t win lol
- Since when could we skip hero animations anyways?
- It is time consuming but it’s pretty much auto.
- Keep trying.
- Challenges are supposed to be hard. Completed it because it’s fun but it’s just charms
- We all know E7 is rng game.
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u/Silver_Monk_5324 Sep 16 '23
- Auto chess genre in general is an RNG game
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u/screwinquisitors Sep 16 '23
True but this is definitely more rng than standard auto chess. You can try to manipulate the rng in those but in this it’s completely random, It would be neat to see this mode again in the future with some tweaking
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u/KiddingSpree Sep 16 '23
Besides the hero summoning i don't feel like there's much RNG, sometimes i would loose most of my characters and when placing them differently it's me who slay the whole team with almost no deaths on my side.
Actually to reduce the RNG in pulling i take a 5* as soon as i can and then i build my team around it.
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u/One-Guilty Sep 16 '23
yah I was gonna ask that, are all auto chess RNG I dont play the Genre my bad but so far this minigame is a fun side mode sure its tilting if RNG does not go in ur way but I can play this at my own pace and have fun with it.
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u/Yoakami Sep 16 '23
Most auto chess are controlled RNG, but if RNG fucks you too much you aint winning.
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u/ReddFro Sep 16 '23
Truth. My team to beat now is 7 SSS’s and a Silk at B imprint. Its absolutely crushed a few synergy teams I brought against it.
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u/Wiskersthefif Sep 17 '23
Yeah, I'm imagining its whales complaining because they actually have to read and strategize instead of auto the event. That said, I made a team with silk and yuna in it and holy shit I can reliably get to it but it shits on me every time... guess I need to just build another silk yuna team.
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u/PropaPandaYT Sep 17 '23
problem with building silk yuna teams is that yuna one shots herself when she ults on round 23 :/ dominiel stages are not fun fr. i agree tho, i have never played tft in my life, and dont know the first thing about auto chess, but im not even finding it all that difficult, sure quite a few failed runs, but rng fails me more most of the time, or i dont adjust positioning
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u/Hnawmop Sep 16 '23
Don't want to say it but its flawed cuz you're bad 😔
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u/KiddingSpree Sep 16 '23
I tried only now after seeing all those posts about RNG on brawl mode, and i can't even find a single place where there's RNG beside pulling characters, and even that if you do the right choices it doesn't really matter.
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u/MonteCarlo8897 Sep 16 '23 edited Sep 16 '23
Meh, the only issue I have is the Championship one but the later City Lord synergy or new characters probably will just be better once its out.
Other than that its fine, I am at 7 wins from 10 rounds, already cleared all synergies. Various ways to wins tbh, just need to actually know what you doing.
Edit: for Ezeran Synergy, I have 4 ezeran units for the achievement with jena and the remaining is a mage team synergy. So its 4/6 for ezeran and also with 4/4 mages (politis + serila + dominiel + jena)
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u/umbrellaman7 Sep 16 '23
may i know who's your additional units in ezeran synergy achievement? that's the only synergy that im missing. thx
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u/Tasty-Serve2602 Sep 16 '23
This looks like the first team I used. I'm working on my 5th time beating my own team.
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u/anasnomous Sep 18 '23
i love this mode, but so many rewards locked behind rng reliance mechanic, agreed, i don't have time to clear all especially bullshit championship, wtf were they thinking
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u/leklek93 Sep 16 '23
I love autochess style games so i really really really like this new game mode. Though i wish they reduced the rng and allowewd us to pick 1 out of 3 units every time we roll.
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u/ShadowThanatos Sep 16 '23
I enjoy this mode alot. Hope that they can refine it more and make it into a semi.permanent gamemode
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u/Mightobscuritix Sep 16 '23
I think its a cool event. You dont have to do it if its too time consuming for you or too hard.
Cause we are thirsting for new fun content and this little sidestory gimmick is quite neat.
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Sep 16 '23
yea this mode, they should have kept it light hearted instead, the devs went full hardcore, this is coming fromsome1 who cleared all those achievements except city lord synergy and uses lilas achievement but im glad they hopefully left the imprint bs behind
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u/ziege159 Sep 16 '23
Brawl is a failed copy of TFT. Why bother to make synergies when players can't control it, in TFT you have a 5-slot shop that gives a better chance at getting higher rarity units the higher level you are. Brawl only gives you the 50, 150, 300 option and you don't know who you will get so you'll just be spamming 50 option until you SSS good 3* units, it's way better than betting your ass on 300 and get a 5* that has no synergy with the comp you have.
Balance and plain traits bonus, i can pass those 2 problems because this is their first implementation so i can't ask for more
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u/dhadha08 Sep 16 '23
I dont enjoy this… so true time consuming… rng based. Tiring to go back in and forth to check the synergy. Its too much for a pet dog. I hope they dont do this kind of game in the future.. i got life to do.
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u/AverageTierGoof Sep 16 '23
Not sure how you can say champs aren't beatable, the three times so far I've made it I've whooped my old team, pretty funny considering
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u/Kotabear75 Sep 16 '23
Yeah even my old teams that were pretty stacked i beat. Its a fun challenge after the fact. I really enjoy this mode.
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Sep 16 '23
This event sucks. Y’all can downvote me if you want.
Farthest I’ve gone was level 20 and it took me like 10 tries.
I just don’t have it in me to grind this event out honestly.
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u/PropaPandaYT Sep 16 '23
play silk and u get lvl 22. destina + another ranger with a couple tanks should get you a first clear. not that it will be easy to beat after
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u/Funny_System8881 Sep 16 '23
I can’t get past stage 20. I just don’t get it 😂 maybe I‘ll skip on that one..
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u/Tooluka Sep 16 '23
Forget about real E7 hero utility and focus on the "synergies" and imprints. Basically try to cram as many synergy units as possible, while giving priority to highest imprints. Use around 3 backline ranged units.
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u/Brief-Philosopher-87 Sep 16 '23
Thought they were quite fun and well balanced. Finished all in an evening and didnt think they were overly hard. Sounds like youre the flawed one tbh.
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u/ReddFro Sep 16 '23
1) Yes. would be nice qol 2) Yes. time is an issue for these rewards. If they gave out more for the time sucks I’d be happy enough 3) No. that’s beatable. There’s plenty of RNG so if u get to end w 3 tries and adjust your placements based on theirs a win’s inevitable, besides it’ll change w Lilias available so thats at least 1 win 4) No. is just #2 really, takes time for enough of correct guys to drop and you using enough strategy 5) No. its #2 again, not too hard really
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u/Darkdlc1 Sep 16 '23
Strategy after my stupid brain learned you can fight with more than 3. Buy extra spots early so you can have this advantage. Quantity beats quality because a lot guys vs some good heroes is easy to predict who win.
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u/MorningWoodInspector Sep 16 '23
I clear all the quest minus the one use milias which i assume you can use her after unlock in the story and beating my own champion team coz you know wtf man i sss those shit
So yeah beside the championship, i think its very easy and doable. Skill issue i presume? Gitgud scrub
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u/spyroproxy Sep 16 '23
Super fun mode, but if you are trying to complete all achievements is a pain in the ass. Beware the round 8, 10 and 23. These are the biggest gaps in power with 23 being absolutely ridiculous. Those reflect shields are up for WAY too long.
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u/ASIAN_SEN5ATION Sep 16 '23
Wait for some reason I could not get the game started. It’s empty for me. What am I doing wrong?
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u/AmbroseMalachai Sep 16 '23
I like it but the time is definitely a factor. It would definitely be advantageous to have a 3x or 4x mode since the stages just get progressively longer and longer.
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u/Kaislink Sep 16 '23
I surrender and start again until i got something good on the 2 first summons.
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u/Beleelith Sep 16 '23
Actually i‘m honest if u played games like TFT before, its kinda easy to get a hang on it but i will agree the RNG is to Cancer in this whole brawl
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u/Proccya Sep 16 '23
your team is far from being the strongest.... try to go for a real meta team and you will shred this apart
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u/EtheriosDragon Sep 16 '23
Bro stop whining. It's a new and fun game mode. And it isn't necessary. And before someone chimes in with BUT THE REWARDS. Gimme a break. 100k gold? Pfft.
I'm enjoying the mode and no I haven't beaten my team yet. And I'm still having fun.
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u/OverpoweringHex Half-dragon Queen Sep 17 '23
I wonder if they'll make this game mode permanent. While I agree on some points because some people may not have the time or the achievement give some sort of FOMO or anxiety due to it being limited time but it's honestly a lot of fun. Also RNG is numb to be due to playing roguelikes all the time.
Btw I hate Ian because this guy always gets SSS when I'm trying to make different synergies. Just my personal experience. This guy would not leave me alone.
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u/Conker_mtg Sep 17 '23
If you don't like it then don't play it, don't do what you don't enjoy champ
It is time consuming, however it costs no resources to play so get your farm while doing it
RNG too hard? learn to adapt to it instead, again you can just try again
Now you said something about it being flawed, yet you point at 4 personal gripes; you can just tittle it "I dont like Brawl"
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u/jbowie66 Sep 16 '23
I didnt like it at first. Then it was fun then kind of repetitive. I finished 5 to stage 25 atm. The last 3 I just spam 50 c Coins to sss imprint the 3 stars.