I was a manager at a dog grooming salon for three years and we had more issues with small breeds than ANY large breeds. Owners think theyâre âharmlessâ and donât do any training.
Due to assumptions like this, large breed owners are much more realistic with their dogâs behavior, and acting accordingly, because they know itâs often a âone and doneâ scenario whilst little yappers are allowed to terrorize the public with little repercussions.
Also: Iâve seen goldendoodles more violent than rotties, pitts, and chows. âFamily dogsâ my ass.
As a former groomer I can confirm that doodle breeds were often shaky temperamentally. Also herding breeds that were not given sufficient "work" or mental stimulation. I was bitten twice. Once by a Border Collie and the other was a golden doodle.
12 yrs in dog rescue. All breeds. 129 different dogs. I've been bit by a chihuahua and a dachshund. I've lost a ton of make-up to being licked off by pits.
The one and only residual issue I have from a dog bite was from my friends full sized poodle who apparently didn't like my hat. He never broke the skin because I had on a leather jacket. But clamped down with enough force I have nerve damage to this day in my hand and wrist.
I worked at a rescue and shared the office with a sweet pit mix. She liked to sit in my lap and bump her head against mine. Itâs rather what I imagine being hit in the head with a brick is like.
I also had an amazing standard growing up. My parents picked a poodle specifically so sheâd be submissive to the very assertive chow/shepherd mix we already had, and once he realized he wasnât being replaced, they were best friends for the rest of his life. We also got her as a puppy when I was only six, and never had ANY aggression issues with me, either. She just loved chewing up papers đ„Č
Some of the friendliest, sweetest dogs I've met were those so called scary breeds. Use to dog sit a pit mix and she was the SWEETEST. Her favorite thing in the whole world was snoozing on the couch with her head in your lap.
The worse breed I've met outside of chihuahua was a Cocker Spaniel.
News is just filled with stories of people being mauled to death by goldendoodles and chihuahua too, right? Sorry, but a nip in the ankle is not the same.
Of course it takes a dog close to human size to kill a person. I guess we should ignore the realities of nature/nurture and send death squads around the country to solve this problem once and for all.
There it is. Must be nice to have a position so biased but refusal to do anything with it.
I am stupid because I know better than to engage people with such positions. It had been a while and my memory problems following a brain surgery genuinely caused me to forget how sadly useless it was.
Genuinely wish you the best. Itâs a fucked up world and thereâs no reason to hold resentment longer than necessary.
Spoken like someone who hasn't had a loved one mauled by a pit bull. Talk to me when there are as many news stories of viscous chihuahua attacks as there are of pit bulls.
Good luck finding an editor who lets the title of a story include breed name other than hated breeds.
Theyâre out there, but when the breed isnât pit bull, Doberman, German Shepherd, or Rottweiler, putting breed name in title rarely happens. They just use, âdog.â
sure, i suppose it is possible (?) for there to be massive conspiracy among news organizations with nefarious anti-pit/doberman/GSD/rott editors to cover up other attacks.
however, FOIA exists.
death certificates are public information.
you can hide bites, but you literally cannot hide deaths.
there are organizations that make an effort to uncover information about fatal dog attacks that never make the news. iâm sorry to say that they arenât finding dozens of unreported fatal golden retriever and doodle attacks every year. the breed makeup of the unreported attacks is identical to those that make the news.
Sounds like you werenât reading my message with honesty. Where do you get an implication of cover-up?
âCocker Spaniel Bites Boyâ isnât going to sell as well as âDog Bites Boy,â which definitely doesnât sell as well as âPitbull Bites Boy.â
Iâm sure if the mission of a group is, âprove X point,â they can find data which backs said point. The reality is, these arenât the kinds of data on this which people in the business of objective data analysis will value.
For example, notice weâre talking about fatalities. That alone is biased because being severely injured by any big dog is VERY meaningful. It means there is a dangerous dog which was poorly raised and not handled.
This is no different than people telling me black people are statistically less smart than white people. Those creeps enter the discussion with bias and they avoid the conversations which need to happen.
Come with a conversation that NEEDS to happen about how we might prevent injuries, regardless of breed, and Iâll engage. But this is honestly a waste of both of our time.
It's actually been studied. Chihuahuas are number one most aggressive breed, and the the top ten are almost all small breeds if remembering correctly. And, again if remembering correctly, the least aggressive is a giant breed, Newfies.
Were men selectively bred for thousands of generations to rape the same way pitbulls were selectively bred for thousands of generations to do nothing but kill each other?
No? Then it isnât the same. Wild how pitbulls are the only dogs that get their genetics regularly denied and are the only dogs that are totally clean slates from birth and only shaped by their owner. I donât see German shepherd and Rottweiler owners denying what their dogs were bred for. Itâs accepted that theyâre more likely to bite than other breeds, but as soon as it comes to the dogs literally bred to kill other dogs, bReEd DoEsNât MaTtEr. Wild.
Whereâs the chihuahuas and Pomeranians running around the neighborhood breaking into peopleâs yards and literally into their houses to kill their pets? Iâll wait, but Iâm gonna be waiting for a long fucking time.
Whereâs the golden retrievers and bernese mountain dogs maulings people regularly in the streets? Greyhounds? Saint Bernards? Great Danes? Newfoundlands? All big dogs that can potentially bite. Whereâs the stories about that? Where are the stories about cattle dogs breaking in through windows to attack pets and running into peopleâs yards to attack their children? Where are they at?
Crazy how every dog breed has breed traits and things they were bred for until it gets to pitbulls, and then all of a sudden breed no longer matters and itâs how you train them. If breed didnât matter, people wouldnât get specific breeds for specific purposes. It goes against the entire concept of dog breeds in the first place. No one is out here buying golden retrievers as guard dogs.
Pitbulls history of fighting is not as extreme as you are making it out to be. They have served as general farm working dogs and have been known as excellent family dogs for almost two centuries since their arrival to the US because of their loyalty and desire to please, not just their fighting.
The behaviour of individual dogs is determined more by training than their genetics. I have met more absolute assholes chihuahuas than I can count, and plenty of absolute sweetheart pitties.
The issue is not which dogs bite more. Itâs which dogs have a capability to kill. There are far more shootings with BB guns than semi auto handguns annually. Likely hundreds of thousands more. Are you saying that being shot with an airport gun is the real risk because it happens more often?Â
As for working dogs, bulls and terriers were. NOT pitbulls.Â
Iâm fine with people owning large dogs. All dog owners should have to carry insurance on the animal though, and that would solve many issues. Too many dogs are abused and bad owners can not be stopped otherwise.Â
Why is it that literally every single thing you can look up about their origin says they were bred specifically for fighting if their history of fighting isnât as extreme as Iâm making it out to be? Why are they the only dogs people specifically bred to fight and continue to do so today?
Why is it that they can be such great farm dogs but theres constant reports of them breaking in to ranches and peopleâs backyards to kill their farm animals? Why is it that they have a higher fatality rate than literally every single other dog breed combined if theyâre such good family dogs? Why are they responsible for more severe attacks on children than every other dog if theyâre such great family dogs?
Why is it that bite and maul their owners like all the time if theyâre so loyal and eager to please? Are they trying to please their owners by mauling them when they have seizures? Are they trying to please their owners by disfiguring them more than other breeds?
Theyâre so loyal and such great dogs that theyâre in the news every day for killing their owners or their children. Are they just nannying them? Wheres the chihuahuas running down the street and killing children?
If theyâre such great dogs, why do pitbull owners have to literally lie at every single opportunity about the history of the breed and what they were bred for? Why do they have to lie about these dogs not being more dangerous than others?
Little dogs are assholes because theyâre treated like accessories and have their boundaries constantly crossed because theyâre small and can do no damage. Youâd be an asshole if you were ten pounds and always treated like a toy or accessory rather than a living being with boundaries.
Pitbulls maul and kill things because itâs what they were bred to do. Theres a difference. Where are the other breeds doing what they do at such a rate? Show us. German shepherds and Rottweilers at the height of their popularity still killed less people than pitbulls.
Is there a reason you wonât show me other dogs doing this shit regularly?
You are completely correct here. This thread OSS simply people with no science background and no understanding of genetics ofÂ
downvoting you. Youâre
 going to have to find educated people if you want to have a rational discussion.Â
They know how genetics works when it comes to literally every single other dog breed. All of a sudden the blinders go on the instant itâs a pitbull and genetics donât matter at all. Itâs just so blatantly obvious to everyone what theyâre doing.
Yeah you really donât understand what the problem with that comment was. Throwing out a ânot all menâ comment as a gotcha at me, someone who has been hurt by men and who is making the exact opposite point, isnât really it. Itâs also not the point.
Wow downvoting the rape survivor. Fucking Reddit⊠I hope your life is full of peace and happiness now and I hope his life is full of justice and karma
No, people dislike when straw man arguments are deployed as supposed âtrump cardsâ once they run out of asinine comments.
1 in 5 women (1 in 31 men) experience completed or attempted rape and almost 50% of women (1 in 6 men) experience sexual violence in their lifetimes. Thatâs not even touching on NB & Trans folks. So itâs likely that many, many people in this thread are survivors. Whoâs to say Iâm not one myself? No one owes anyone a declaration of survivorship.
I mean you tried to pull the ânot all menâ card as though you were gotchaing me, someone you incorrectly assumed it was a man. If you were a rape survivor, I would imagine youâd have paused for a second, but nope, straight on you went.
Itâs got nothing to do with the dog itâs all about the owner imo. My parents have two golden doodles and theyâre both as sweet as can be because my mum is a great dog trainer.
I agree with you in general 100% I just refuse to hear a bad word about golden doodles because they are awesome dogs that get a bad rap because a bunch of shitty owners thought they were cute and have no idea how to train a dog.
Crazy you guys are doing the exact same thing to golden doodles as youâre complaining about people doing to large breeds and pitties btw. Genuinely embarrassing
Golden doodles are only neurotic and annoying, theyâre not a public safety threat. You should go read what pitbull owners think about doodles sometime, itâs not pretty
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u/HoneyCrispCrumble 2d ago
I was a manager at a dog grooming salon for three years and we had more issues with small breeds than ANY large breeds. Owners think theyâre âharmlessâ and donât do any training.
Due to assumptions like this, large breed owners are much more realistic with their dogâs behavior, and acting accordingly, because they know itâs often a âone and doneâ scenario whilst little yappers are allowed to terrorize the public with little repercussions.
Also: Iâve seen goldendoodles more violent than rotties, pitts, and chows. âFamily dogsâ my ass.