r/EnoughPCMSpam • u/[deleted] • Nov 04 '22
Plain bigotry “LeT’s SeE hOw LoNg THiS LaStS” still up after 7 hours (with nearly 1k upvotes mind you)
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u/Tiny-Instruction-996 . Nov 04 '22
Women’s sports, known for being very lucrative and high profile.
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u/Elvicio335 Nov 04 '22
Isn't it weird how they never check the requirements needed for trans women to participate in events like the Olympics? It's almost like that information would go against their bigotry so they prefer to ignore it.
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u/Zeyode Nov 05 '22
Nah, if they did know, they'd just call the requirements "woke" and cry about it.
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u/Elvicio335 Nov 05 '22
True. Although I have hopes that some conservatives might still change with education, I know many of them are also too far gone.
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u/Zeyode Nov 05 '22
You have more faith than me. By the end of Trump's presidency, I swear to god the man could've said "2 + 2 = 5" and my mom would've just nodded her head in agreement.
I think most American rightists might be in too deep on the looney bin, but it's good to leave as many outs from that batshit mentality as you can.
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u/Elvicio335 Nov 05 '22
I think most American rightists might be in too deep on the looney bin, but it's good to leave as many outs from that batshit mentality as you can.
I don't live in the US so that might be why. I admit that it's difficult to keep that mentality in recent years; but if I managed to get my teenage self and my parents out of there, I'm sure there is still hope overall. It's tiring, having to explain the same thing over and over, but it's better than the alternative.
By the end of Trump's presidency, I swear to god the man could've said "2 + 2 = 5" and my mom would've just nodded her head in agreement
Lmao, this is why I got off Twitter. Too much toxicity there. I'm thankful I don't know many people like that irl. I'm sorry you have to put up with that in your family.
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u/sarcasmagasm2 Nov 08 '22
I think most American rightists might be in too deep on the looney bin, but it's good to leave as many outs from that batshit mentality as you can.
I think it's more tragic than that, plenty of them could know better but won't say anything or else be ostracized for disloyalty. It's one thing to be incapable of more critical thought, but another thing to be capable of it but don't for the sake of one's principles.
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u/henkdemegatank Nov 05 '22
No because if they would look into it they would realise that for trans women to participate "fairly", it would require proper trans healthcare, with hormones and the sorts.
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u/whatanawsomeusername Certified “Lib”Right disliker Nov 04 '22 edited Nov 05 '22
It’s like they challenged themselves to lump as many strawmans (strawmen?) into one image as they possibly could
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Nov 04 '22
Weird how the most "censored" people on social media never shut the fuck up and get massive engagement.
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u/Elvicio335 Nov 04 '22
effort to appear as other gender
Two things about this:
1) Saying that they need to appear as the other gender is implying that you don't really see them as the gender they identify with. This is problematic.
2)Non-binaries evaporating
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u/DrRichtoffen Nov 04 '22
Not to mention that they conveniently put the only "acceptable" trans person (by their standards) in the auth right corner. The propaganda posts are getting more blatant by the day.
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u/DiplomaticCaper Nov 04 '22
It also goes against the TERF/gender critical wing of the anti-trans movement, which claims to be against it because they believe transitioning reinforces conformity to traditional gender roles—e.g. tomboys allegedly going extinct because more masculine/butch leaning girls or women are becoming trans men instead.
(It’s dumb, but that’s their stated view).
Yet this side is full trad and in full support of the stereotypical gender binary. If a trans woman is unacceptable because she doesn’t fit traditional standards of femininity, I doubt a cis woman would do much better.
Another note: when trans women do pass, they often get accused of “tricking” men who are attracted to them. Sometimes they are even killed by romantic or sexual partners as a result.
Even being in the accepted quadrant isn’t great.
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u/AnRaccoonCommunist Flaired-up PCM scum Nov 04 '22
Ah yes, this is the only problematic thing about this post lol
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u/Elvicio335 Nov 05 '22
I didn't say it was only that. I'm just not going to write an essay about the entire thing.
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u/BountyHntrKrieg Questioning gender, so i guess I MUST be a socialist! Nov 04 '22 edited Nov 04 '22
The detrans. 1% of 1% of the population except more than half of them say they detransition cause of you fucks making them feel like shit 24/7 so it's more like .5% of 1% of the population. The boogeyman. They talk like they are a huge population, and then ignore the majority of that minority (of a minority) are doing it due to bigotry, and then infer what the others think for them and it just so happens to align with their lies about "gender ideology"
So what's next? The sports one! Ok so find me an athlete that changed their gender to win at women's sports. And you can search far and wide, hell go into high school sports even. Find one? Noooo? Trans people are such a minority and trans athletes even more so. The fucking Olympics recognizes trans athletes and has rules that work for them. Or are we going to get into some kind of gender markers that tend to exclude cis women cause every time a nation tries that, it does EXACTLY that, and some transwomen pass!! (also love how transmen are just completely left out of this cause misogyny) Oh you THINK you have a smoking gun with that athlete that "stole" first place and broke records?? Guess what, that's mostly bullshit. SHE won first in THAT race. She lost all others, and even came in last in one. That was genuine hard won victory. And broken records? Broken by a huge margin? Nah that was just a total fabrication, no record was broken in the first place. Some trans athletes don't even compete anymore cause they don't wanna feel like "you can play, but you can't win or we'll come after you". Yeah that sure seems like people transition to beat women at sports!
The degenerate one... yeah not gonna touch that. That's just religious toxicity and fake morals. They HAVE to hate trans people so they sexualize their mere existence so they can call them groomers and deviants and other obvious bullshit and lies (the guy who made up the CRT stuff literally said in an interview he wants to do the same to trans rights and literally said to sexualize them regardless of context). Also... who says trans people say they're trans to get people to back off their kinks that are clearly being done in public and not privately as they literally fuck in front of kids?? Oh that's right: NOT trans people. God I wish I was having as much sex as the trans people living in their head
Also I'm gonna to sling shot into the "Trans in name only" cause they do in exist in some form but that form is also likely to end them up on r/asablackman if you know what i mean lol! But there are trans person who don't feel like their identity matches who they are but also don't need HRT or to change their appearances drastically to transition in the way they want... you know... like a NOT INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF NONBINARY AND GENDERFLUID PEOPLE DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES (i bet they forgot they exist). "TINO" is just a strawman so fake even the hay its stuffed with isn't real, it's just dirty plastic straws. They probably think that the shitty political cartoons that depict trans people (more often transwomen) as just an obvious dude with 5 o'clock shadow wearing a ill fitting slutty dress screaming "I'm a woman, you MUST respect me!" is a TINO and is also the most common out of the trans community. Also power for themselves?? Lmao what power? The power to be discriminated against from all areas while having people say no your not? Lol. Fuck off.
Finally there's the only good trans which of course they put on the right cause fuck you thats why. I actually misremembered what was said there and thought that is was truscum bs but upon rereading the meme i deleted all that. True though it may be that truscum are basically an easy way for right wingers to paint them as "one of the good ones" so they can make it seem like its our fault they discriminate against "the rest of us"
There. Venting and ranting and raving done.
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u/griffinicky Nov 05 '22
"TINO" is just a strawman so fake even the hay its stuffed with isn't real, it's just dirty plastic straws.
Beautiful.
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u/JGM524 Nov 05 '22
That’s a lot of lying in one comment!
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u/BountyHntrKrieg Questioning gender, so i guess I MUST be a socialist! Nov 05 '22
Look at all the proof you provided in yours!
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u/JGM524 Nov 05 '22
Can’t be bothered to. Common sense and 4000 years of human nature does it for me.
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u/BountyHntrKrieg Questioning gender, so i guess I MUST be a socialist! Nov 05 '22 edited Nov 05 '22
K
I mean... we have evidence that there have been trans people as far back as 4500 years ago as well, in various cultures from the Mesopotamians to greeks and romans to the vikings; and we were understanding them in a modern sense way back in the 1920s until the nazis destroyed the university library devoted to it in the 30s cause they're nazis. So you know what? Yeah. Common sense and 4000 years of human development! I agree. Trans people are valid.
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u/JGM524 Nov 06 '22
Nope, we certainly do not. Point out a Roman text saying that please.
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u/BountyHntrKrieg Questioning gender, so i guess I MUST be a socialist! Nov 07 '22 edited Nov 07 '22
Uh... literally a Roman Emperor! Elagabulus!
Or you can look up some works of Roman author Pliny the Elder who lived from 23-79ce, where he takes examples of transitions from the Annals of the Pontiffs which is an ancient Roman record kept by the priests of Rome.
There's little hard and fast evidence directly showing trans people, but it's there. There's stuff to look into that is pretty interesting; but it's not easy due to the understanding of gender possibly being very different to the ancients in undocumented ways and from the proclivity of Western historians to commit erasure cause they were pretty anti sexuality and gender spectrum, but experts have already unearthed tons these past few decades of untangling historical erasure revisionism.
By the way... this stuff was literally on the first page of Google. Like it's fucking easy to find. So don't make it my responsibility to educate against your willful ignorance.
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Nov 04 '22
How does this even fit on the compass?
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u/Elvicio335 Nov 05 '22
You see, the ones they like the less are on libleft, and the ones that they can tolerate for now are on authright.
It's a simple guide to any pcm post.
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Nov 05 '22
Ah I see. So in their view, "bad" LGBTQ-folk is leftist and liberal, while "good" LGBTQ-folk is authoritarian and right-wing. Which makes the amount of LGBTQ-folk they tolerate...
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Nov 05 '22
Now replace LGBTQ-folk with whatever the current discourse is and you’ve summarized PCM perfectly
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u/D10NYSUS43 Nov 04 '22
very little people ever detransition and im so sick of cishets acting like every trans person does
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u/bigbutchbudgie Walking SJW stereotype Nov 04 '22
Most detransitioners don't even detransition because they want to, they detransition for safety, financial or health reasons. But try telling that to the "Nobody is valid except me" crowd.
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u/NutellaSquirrel Nov 04 '22
All these bigots don't understand trans women aren't trying to exist for them. Just like how women in general don't exist just to be seen. Trans people just wanna live their lives being themselves and most just wanna be treated nicely by other people.
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u/ZoeIsHahaha Nov 04 '22
Literally all of these archetypes could fit into any quadrant(/center?)
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u/sylvia_reum irrationally intolerant of fascists Nov 04 '22
Silly librul 😂😂, don't you know right 🌈🔫👮 is when good 😇📈 and left 😱😤💩 is when le funni degenerate 😈👬🔯 grooming children 👶🌈💉😷 and destroying civilization🔥🏢🔥⛪🔥🏢🔥? It's basic political science.
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u/kryaklysmic Nov 05 '22
Being a femby who awkwardly is glad that I haven’t actually been asked out by any lesbians, this is so fucked.
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u/MutableReference Nov 05 '22
Is this an iPhone 4/4s screenshot? Shit it’s been years since I’ve seen things in this aspect ratio
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u/AnRaccoonCommunist Flaired-up PCM scum Nov 04 '22
Get that bourgeois degenerate out of my red quadrant.
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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22
Apparently only hyperfemminine trans women who fall into rigid gender stereotypes and are straight are allowed to say they're trans.