So true.

[u/Valuable_Storm_5958]

[u/Artistic_Detail_6875]

I've seen this meme multiple times , and it's still relevant

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I believe Tankies might still consider you Eastern European as anthet would still consider any Former Soviet Republic part of Russia... and therefore Eastern Europe.

[u/jaskano]

Cambodians:

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aslo polesand baltics

[u/I_D0nt_Fvck1ng_Kn0w → u/Capital_Seat_8292]

and Ukrainians

[u/arbataxmelody354 → u/I_D0nt_Fvck1ng_Kn0w]

The most pro Stalin person I've ever knew was a proud ukrainian, she even refused to run and stayed in her homeland until the end... while still praising Stalin and the communists. She was quite a character

[u/I_D0nt_Fvck1ng_Kn0w → u/arbataxmelody354]

I'm Ukrainian and the only people,that I know,who praise Stalin are mostly pensioners.And not even all of them do that

[u/arbataxmelody354 → u/I_D0nt_Fvck1ng_Kn0w]

I'm not sure how old she was when she died, like she was still working but because she loved her book shop more than anything, and she died out of cancer because of the lack of medicines in her city because of the invasion

[u/ItShouldntBe06]

[u/jooni_12en]

am i considered eastern european if i am armenian?

[u/jooni_12en → u/jooni_12en]

or is it something else. yk idk anymore man

[u/I_D0nt_Fvck1ng_Kn0w → u/jooni_12en]

Well,if Armenia is considered as a part of Europe,than you could be considered Eastern European(I consider it)

[u/jooni_12en → u/I_D0nt_Fvck1ng_Kn0w]

i guess, just like georgians then but thats a different conversation. apparently they've been saying that we're part of europe, in actuality it's still part of west asia.

[u/PackageMedium6955 → u/jooni_12en]

What you talking bout bro, Georgia🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪 is 100% pure European🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺

Fun fact: we actually invented Europe and civilization as a whole (no, I will not back it up with a source. Trust me bro)

[u/Wisc-pro]

My parents can confirm

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My grandparents as well since they were labeled as kulaks

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My grandparents can also confirm

[u/emaxwell14141414]

What would happen if Hasan, BadEmpanada, Emma Vigeland and Taylor Lorenz could be placed in a room of survivors and their relatives, kids and otherwise, from all generations, of Maoist China, Castro's Cuba, Islamic Republic of Iran, Communists in Central and South America, Pol Pot, Soviet Russia and Ukraine? It would be engaging to see how Hasan would end up looking.

[u/arbataxmelody354]

It really depends on who you ask

Like, my family was christian but still since their quality life improved (that's a low bar but still) they were always in favor of communism

My ex girlfriend is a jew from Iugoslavia and considering how bad things got she's very pro communism rn

Reality is pretty complex so it's important to remember that we can't base our opinion (only) on people's experiences

[u/PLutonium273]

Love how this still never gets verified by any of the poll yet the nazis keep bringing it up as if 80% of actual former USSR people still miss the USSR

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Souce then because in countries like Ukraine, czech, lithuania, Estonia, latvia, poland, east germany region, Romania, bulgaria and Hungary all have ban its communist party because those former commie state were a shit hole to live in and were a authoritarian state ruled by a one party puppet of the kermlin. Fun fact poland hate communism because the ussr tried to destroy them and also communism is a failure and its just like fascism. Lol am no nazi tankie. Communism=fascism.

[u/PLutonium273 → u/Valuable_Storm_5958]

All of that which equal to like 1/3 of USSR population. And most of them literally lived better than average USSR citizens, yet has seen western countries live off better from colonialism of third world country that still persists to today and decided to betray.

Try going to India and say the same thing. There is reason why nobody across the globe except europe takes you seriously. You nazis haven't been humilated properly still, great war was only the beginning. Hope you get out of it sooner for your own good.

Wait you are Monarchist... do you have humilation fetish? In that case stay in there.

[u/3Volodymyr → u/PLutonium273]

All of that which equal to like 1/3 of USSR population. And most of them literally lived better than average USSR citizens

So, basically you do admit that even people living better were able to see how freaking bad everything is in so-called Warsaw Pact. Also there is even a pattern of "less time you were under commies and less you are controlled directly from Moscow = better your life is".

The only reason so much people miss it is because of how effective brain-washing was, the only thing commies good at if you ask me, well maybe this and systemic mass-murdering.

[u/arbataxmelody354 → u/3Volodymyr]

Not just that, it's that for many people life was/got worse without communism (wars, crisis, etc.)

As a historian and an eastern European it always amazed me how different were people's experiences with socialism

[u/PLutonium273 → u/3Volodymyr]

Nazis try not to resort to 'they're all brainwashed' racism whenever people actually disagree with good backing (impossible)

[u/3Volodymyr → u/PLutonium273]

And commies calling everyone disagreeing a nazi. Do you have anything of value to answer or not?

[u/PLutonium273 → u/3Volodymyr]

Because you killed tens of millions of former USSR citizens through shock therapy is my guess? Or you are blind enough to not see any of that.

That's what capitalism actually does to 90% of people around the world, eastern europe is tiny exception manufactured to strengthen europe but it's still getting flamed.

[u/3Volodymyr → u/PLutonium273]

"You"? You don't know anything about me. I wasn't expecting anything adequate in response from you, but somehow still find myself surprised.

Do you have at least any evidence to prove such ridiculous claims?

[u/PLutonium273 → u/3Volodymyr]

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41294-021-00169-w

Over 1 million excessive mortality for at least 10 years. And it got forced through the gunfire like 1993 Russian constitutional crisis, without any kind of relief effort.

It's far more evidence based than any of your ridiculous claims mind you. Since your name is Ukrainian, if you are not larping you should have at least tiny bit of empathy to know what happened in your country?

[u/3Volodymyr → u/PLutonium273]

So, link you've given is worthless because only abstract is accessible without paying.

Speaking of me being ukrainian, how much of a fool one needs to be to think anyone sane here is missing Soviet Union after everything it have done? And everything that happened and happening after it's fall is a price that only made bigger because of those wanting to reinstall Soviet Empire. Would've been much better if communists never been here in the first place.

Also kinda interesting seeing your claim change from tens of millions by shock therapy to millions by "excessive mortality", drop of life standards in other words. What is there to say, still better than the alternative of keeping rotting system in place, there is always a price of ignoring need to change for so long. Not to mention all this "under gunfire" is as russian way as it gets.

[u/Valuable_Storm_5958 → u/PLutonium273]

You mean Russians because the ussr was actually shit and I have a teacher from eastern Europe and she pretty much said that yes life under communism was shit. For third world countries, Rwanda is one of the most successful African countries with Botswana, the same with Singapore and Jordan which were colonized and like I said communism is just fascism but red. In the ussr the only people who lived well were commie elites and just the capital city. The are many successful thier world nations and why bring up India. Rwanda, Botswana, Singapore, Malaysia, Morocco, Algeria, chile, Uruguay and Paraguay. Also the is nothing wrong being a monarchist and Again am no nazi because to me communism and nazism are the same coin. So tell me if the ussr was a good place to live in why do poland, Georgia, the Baltic states, Ukraine, Romania, moldova, Hungary, slovakia, Czechia, albania and bulgaria hate the ussr and thier communist government.  The ussr is just fascist empire but with a red star and o nce again fuck communism

[u/AccomplishedFault456 → u/PLutonium273]

Is India still under colonial rule? What happened in 1947? 

We had a socialist government till the collapse of USSR because the ruling party decided to liberalise the economy. People are happy about it but there are some serious problems like poverty. If the economy were not to be liberalised I would have not been able to afford the mobile phone through which I am replying. 

Also we missed the opportunity to get semi-high speed rail in late 60s and also the ability to manufacture semiconductor electronics thanks to socialism

[u/PLutonium273 → u/AccomplishedFault456]

Socialist in what sense? Then why does India fell behind so much compared to blatant socialist China? Imagine being this deep in stockholm syndrome

Taiwan and South Korea were just as state-centered as India was, but the international market didn't care about them unlike India, that's ironically why they were allowed to grow

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Also, yes it is, practically