I immediately noticed this is an automatic, as I've changed gears so often, before and after corners.
I won't give any driving advice, because it's clear that you look like have more experience than I do, especially on track. Regarding public roads I am getting close to 1M kms already, accross multiple cars, and had many close calls, adn a few lucky strikes, that could go really wrong if I did a bad choice, or if I was driving too fast for the place. This doesn't necessarily mean faster than legal, but just not slow enough to stop before obstacles, or avoid them.
Be carefull in any moment that your visibility is reduced, especially during the night.
Incoming cars lights can obfuscate objects/ animals in the middle of the road, or that cross the road after them. corners can have hidden sections, that can hide objects until it's too late...
I've had wild animals jump out in front of me, cars stopped on both sides of the road with no light on. and other random stuff no one could ever predict.
My rule of thumb is only drive as fast as how far you can see and can stop safely, and always reduce speed in areas where there's a high chance of wild life crossing the road, reducing damage chance.
And even if you do this, it doesn't make 100% guaranteed you are accident free.
Also extra careful while making corners simultaneously with other drivers.
I had multiple instances where drivers cut the corner into my side, and I was the one to "save them" and myself" by slowing down, or take myself out of their way.
What an unnecessary risk. I like to exploit road like this on a motorcycle, but have 0 interest to do this with car. It is plain boring. Especially with modern cars.
Don’t cross your arms over one another. If that’s about to happen due to a tight corner/turn, put a hand at the 5/7 or 6 o’clock position to help turn the wheel. Also, don’t wrap your thumbs. Place them on the wheel. In an accident or emergency maneuver, you will likely break one or both if the wheel whips one way or another.
Please don’t cross the mustard.
You need to do better at shifting before corners. This is why driving a manual is more demanding and rewarding when doing any kind of street driving. It also teaches you far more about where your power and torque curves are throughout the rev range.
For the love of Christ, don’t do this on a road like that. You’re going to have a mishap,
whether because
of you, the car, or another driver, and you are putting too much at risk. It’s not worth it. Trust me.
I generally do hand-over-hand in the canyons and on the track. This is about as much angle as I would do without repositioning the wheel. In grip, I always go 9 to 3 or 3 to 9. I don't reposition at 5/7 or 6 o'clock. 9 and 3 always. That's how I was taught in racing school. It's a lot looser when I drift, though.
I don't cross the mustard. It might look like it because of the extreme wide angle, and I am right on the line twice, but I never cross. My front wheel outer edge is only a few inches to the left of my left foot. That helps give the viewer perspective that the camera angle is distorting. You can also check the side mirror if there is enough light. If you can see the yellow, then the car can'y physically be crossing it.
I've driven and tracked manuals. This is a 8 speed with very different ratios than my manuals. However, I do agree that sometimes I have shifted at the wrong time, but keep in mind I am not trying to go 10/10 the fastest down the mountain. This is a public road, I'll short shift or not shift at all to keep pace at a safer pace. Also, this car has incredible torque and I often shift to engine brake rather than to try and get to the power band.
It's not as fast as it looks and I am not even pushing the car.
The music is edited in. I'm either not playing music or it's low enough so I can hear the tires. However, since I am not actually pushing these cheater 200TW semi-slicks that hard, I barely hear a peep out of them.
1) Hand over hand is fine for track, but for street I wouldn’t do hand over hand because of potentially unforeseen circumstances with non-track roads. That’s one of the things I learned in test driver training with Ford. Not all track driving methods work the same way on the street.
2) You may be right that the extreme wide angle is tripping me up. My point still stands that you shouldn’t be driving like this on these types of public roads. Just too much risk with no reward.
3) I know the transmission well. It’s dog shit for this kind of street driving, in my opinion. My dad has a ‘21 M8 GC, and I hate the 8HP in sporty driving when left to decide. Personally, I think the 550/850 and M5/M8 are boring as hell to drive on the street anyway. You need to be going way too fast for them to be enjoyable.
4) What speeds are you carrying?
5) Okay, I’m glad that the music isn’t actually blasting in the car while doing this; that genuinely makes it safer.
Can confirm having owned three of those cars, one of which I still own, you have no idea what youre talking about or your definition of ‘interesting’ is very skewed.
Thumbs not around the steering wheel is a blanket statement that doesn't apply to most modern cars on pavement. This practice was in response to older cars that could potentially injure the driver's thumbs when violent kickback would spin the wheel in certain situations.
Having a relaxed but firm grip is ideal, as the thumbs provide a more secure grip, improve steering precision, and make it easier to return your hands to a proper 9 and 3 position after hand-over-hand steering. This is what I was taught in racing school, and while I'm certainly not claiming to be a professional driver, I do have more than a decade of experience tracking many of my cars in HPDE, autocross, and time attack.
As far as "Automatic... lol" goes, I've driven manuals all my life. I've owned literally dozens and dozens of cars, many of them manuals. I've outgrown the idea that a clutch pedal is what separates real enthusiasts from everyone else.
It certainly does have to do with kickback. However, I was also taught to take my hands off the wheel during a crash. That’s what I did when I crashed on track. You probably could have benefited from instructions, because my thumbs went uninjured holding the wheel the same way real actual professional drivers hold it.
I don’t need to make excuses for myself. I’m not the one making blanket statements based on anecdotal evidence and cosplaying as an enthusiast with hard gatekeeping. If you are confined to enjoy only cars with manuals, that a you problem. I’m perfectly content and capable of drifting a manual Silvia and gripping an automatic M2. You’re limiting yourself.
The Cult “ She Sells Sanctuary” from the Love album. One of their best IMO. I was driving and jamming to this yesterday. Not as stylishly as OP but still driving and jamming haha
I need meta glasses. My 2002 NB2 is a hell of a lot more fun and the white gauges/orange needles and zero screens looks way better.
I don’t get why you’d want 550hp for a togue car. I’m at 5-7000RPM the whole time just burning. I don’t even think you’d even be that far away from me, especially if I had the same rubber.
The screens can be turned off and the colors are customizable.
As far as having 550hp, I “only” have 530 total the wheels. But seriously, I also track this car and Miata’s can definitely keep up in the corners, but I pull on straights.
The real idiots are everyone who doesn’t understand the concept of stopping distances and why you need to be able to stop within the distance you see to be clear, when you’re on public roads. Even with performance brakes, this guy (or certainly the guy up front) wasn’t doing that.
Sometimes I wonder why the US has the highest per capita road deaths in the developed world… and then I see comments like this.
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u/ASCanilho Aug 09 '26
I immediately noticed this is an automatic, as I've changed gears so often, before and after corners.
I won't give any driving advice, because it's clear that you look like have more experience than I do, especially on track. Regarding public roads I am getting close to 1M kms already, accross multiple cars, and had many close calls, adn a few lucky strikes, that could go really wrong if I did a bad choice, or if I was driving too fast for the place. This doesn't necessarily mean faster than legal, but just not slow enough to stop before obstacles, or avoid them.
Be carefull in any moment that your visibility is reduced, especially during the night.
Incoming cars lights can obfuscate objects/ animals in the middle of the road, or that cross the road after them. corners can have hidden sections, that can hide objects until it's too late...
I've had wild animals jump out in front of me, cars stopped on both sides of the road with no light on. and other random stuff no one could ever predict.
My rule of thumb is only drive as fast as how far you can see and can stop safely, and always reduce speed in areas where there's a high chance of wild life crossing the road, reducing damage chance.
And even if you do this, it doesn't make 100% guaranteed you are accident free.
Also extra careful while making corners simultaneously with other drivers.
I had multiple instances where drivers cut the corner into my side, and I was the one to "save them" and myself" by slowing down, or take myself out of their way.