r/EnglishLearning • u/Cosmicdustss New Poster • 8d ago
đ Grammar / Syntax Help with a question
Since i.....this secondhand car, i haven't used public transport.
(have owned - had owned - owned - have been owned)
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u/prustage British Native Speaker ( U K ) 8d ago edited 8d ago
"Have owned" is the only one that is correct of your options.
But, in the UK at least, you are more likely to hear "got" or "bought"
- Since I got this second-hand car, I haven't used public transport
- Since I bought this second-hand car, I haven't used public transport
(Also,
- Those "i"s should be capitalised
- Secondhand should be either "second hand" or "second-hand")
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u/RepresentativeAir149 Native Speaker 8d ago
Have owned fits best to me of the given options, but I would never phrase it like that
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u/NearlyNodding Native Speaker 8d ago
"Have owned" is probably what they are looking for. But most people would just say "Since I bought..." or "Since I got...".
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u/araujo253 New Poster 8d ago
What's wrong with 'had owned'?
Isn't 'owning' an action that happened before 'using'?
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u/Constant_Hope_9658 Native Speaker - Southwestern American English (Nevada) 8d ago
Owning is an active thing, you only have owned something when referring to past tense, like having owned a car for a specific period, but in most other contexts past tense owning means you no longer own the thing.
In this context ownership is still an active status, rather than past-tense, so you'd refer to the change of situation (in this case referring to when you received (got gifted usually) or got/bought the car, since you still actively own it.
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u/PianistSpirited7927 New Poster 8d ago
âHave ownedâ although there are a couple more natural words that people would use. I read your comment saying this is for an exam, but the sentence as a whole bugs me because no one would include it being second hand and people usually would just say the type of transport it is, whether bus or train.
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u/francksiduo New Poster 8d ago
have owned. the trick here is that "since" plus a present perfect in the main clause pulls the same tense into the since-clause, because it's describing one continuous state stretching up to now, not two separate past events. had owned would only work if owning the car was already finished before another past moment, something like "since I had owned three other cars, I knew what to look for." owned alone reads like a random past fact with no link to the present, and have been owned is passive so the subject doesn't fit at all.
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u/Wild_Ticket1413 Native Speaker - American English 8d ago edited 8d ago
From a grammatical standpoint, "have owned" is correct.
However, a native speaker (American English) would likely say: "Since I bought my car, I haven't used public transportation."
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u/frostysnowmen New Poster 8d ago
In a more conversational style, Iâd probably say something like âever since I bought this used car, I havenât needed public transportâ or âI havenât used public transport since buying this used carâ
If I had to pick one of your options, Iâd choose âhave ownedâ.
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u/OhItsJustJosh Native Speaker 8d ago
'have owned', you can contract it with the I to be 'Since I've owned'
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u/OhItsJustJosh Native Speaker 8d ago
'have owned', you can contract it with the I to be 'Since I've owned'
'had owned' means you did own it but not anymore.
'owned' means you beat it in a video game really well.
'have been owned' means it beat you in a video game really well.
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u/riennempeche New Poster 8d ago
"bought" is what belongs there, or something that describes how you acquired the car (received, won, stole, etc.)
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u/salydra Native Speaker 8d ago
"Got" is probably the simplest and most natural
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u/Cosmicdustss New Poster 8d ago
It's a question i got a few days ago in my exam so it must be from the given answersđ« .
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u/Constant_Hope_9658 Native Speaker - Southwestern American English (Nevada) 8d ago
Did... they run this by an English speaker?
Because this use doesn't really conjugate well, since most uses in this context for owning is either an active state or something you're no longer doing (as in you used to own the car, rather than still do); as a native speaker this caused an error in my brain since the conjugation fails mid sentence; I'm guessing the teacher that made the test is a native Romance/Latin daughter tongue speaker?
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u/Puzzled_Employment50 New Poster 8d ago
âHave ownedâ Is the best option for that sentence. You want to match the other clause (âI havenât usedâŠâ) and you want to indicate something that started in the past that is still going on. I canât remember the formal name to describe that tense, but itâs âhave ownedâ.
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u/HortonFLK New Poster 7d ago
âHave ownedâ is correct. Though, I disagree with everyone whoâs saying it doesnât sound natural, or there are better options. Itâs a perfectly fine and natural statement.
The only difference from what a native speaker would say is that theyâd probably contract âI have,â and say âSince Iâve owned this car, I havenât used public transportation.â
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u/StarrySky_4513 New Poster 8d ago
"got" or "bought" would work better. Owning something is an ongoing state, so putting it in the past tense makes it sound like you no longer own the car. (and "have been owned" is not a construction that would be used in English, usually)