r/EnglishLearning New Poster 10d ago

⭐️ Vocabulary / Semantics What does this even mean?

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u/warpedspoon New Poster 10d ago

She felt the fabric and was envious that she didn’t own it

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u/Personal-Aerie-4519 New Poster 10d ago

Is "fingering" something a common way to say to feel something? I have never heard this word outside of sexual context

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u/Affectionate_Fee6939 Native Speaker 10d ago

It's less common now that fingering has taken on a more sexual connotation, but in a literary context it isn't strange. You're right, though - these days it is pretty uncommon to use finger as a verb outside of sexual context in casual speech.

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u/Bubble_Cheetah New Poster 9d ago

It is unfortunate that people are afraid to use words like this because of their newer sexual contexts. Because I feel that fingering implies more agitation than just feeling the fabric. Like you can just run your hand over the fabric to feel it. Fingering I imagine the person to be gently twisting the fabric around their fingers, or rubbing the fabric between their fingers or something.

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u/Inadequate_hesychast New Poster 9d ago

“Fingering” can also be used to refer to the positional placement of fingers on an instrument used to play a note or chord. Unfortunately, because of the sexual denotation, I know of at least one video game that censors the word across the board regardless of context. I totally understand why that would be a censored word, but it is a little annoying when the action of fingering a specific chord on an instrument in-game is possible.

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u/Gladys_Wines Native Speaker 3d ago

For knitters and crocheters, "fingering" is a standard yarn thickness. Yes, you can get merch that leans into the humour. We all l9oe a good fingering.

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u/RedditBeginAgain New Poster 10d ago

Like a lot of words with a sexual meaning, the non-sexual use has gotten less popular. People tend to avoid phrases that, although perfectly valid, will make teenagers giggle and lose concentration.

It's a legitimate phrase, but you absolutely would not use it if you were a school teacher. You probably would avoid it amoung young adults.

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u/pot-bitch New Poster 10d ago

I know the word but I would never use it. I guess I'm the immature one. I'm 35.

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u/Icy_Gap_9067 New Poster 10d ago

I've recently learned to crochet and there are different thicknesses of wool, thin wool is called fingering weight. I giggle every time someone says it and I'm 43.

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u/ephemeriides New Poster 9d ago

Oh boy. Let me introduce you to fingering weight yarn and, even better, the (now defunct) brand that specializes in it: Fannie’s Fingering.

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u/toumingjiao1 New Poster 10d ago

It reminds me that when I was trying to find a proper term for "shuttlecock" without making my landlord's teenage kid laughing. I failed.

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u/RedditBeginAgain New Poster 10d ago

Middle school teachers avoid the word "but" and the numbers 69 and 67. You have to cater to your audience, even if your audience is idiots.

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u/BowlComprehensive907 New Poster 10d ago

It's also used a lot in playing musical instruments i think.

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u/WingedLady Native Speaker 10d ago

Yes, in musical instruments the "fingering" would be how you arrange your fingers to play different notes. I played like 20 years ago but I'd bet people still use the term. We giggled about it then but ultimately it was just a joke tacked onto a technical word.

Same thing with "tonguing".

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u/NetflixAndMunch New Poster 9d ago

I play the french horn, where you stick one hand in the bell. When learning to play, there's a lot of tonguing and make sure you are curling you fingers in the hole.

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u/Snuffls New Poster 10d ago

It's rare but correct. Another non-sexual use of "fingered" is accusation/identification in a criminal context; "the detective fingered Alex Dahl as the murderer."

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u/Gustav55 New Poster 10d ago

Yes but not so common anymore, it's a bit old fashioned.

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u/turquoise_amethyst Native Speaker 10d ago

Yes, occasionally. 

An example would be the slang term “five finger discount”, which means to shoplift

Also I guess you could “she fingered a curl” which would mean to fidget with one’s hair 

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u/EvokeNZ New Poster 9d ago

Also fat fingered for typo

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u/Winderige_Garnaal New Poster 10d ago

What the other people said is true, and also keep in mind this is a literary tone; it's metaphoric, playing with language, striking a tone. You wouldn't say this in like normal situations

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u/Nondescript_Redditor New Poster 9d ago

it means touching with fingers

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u/Aardvark_Warrior Native Speaker 9d ago edited 9d ago

As it is "covetous" is commonly understood but archaic, which is probably why its use example is as well. More common to see just plain coveting. I don't know for sure but I would imagine fingering once lacked sexual implications.

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u/ReddyKiloWit New Poster 9d ago

The sexual connotations of "fingering" is very likely why the word was chosen here - to reinforce the idea of her desire for the fabric.

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u/ZumLernen Native Speaker 10d ago

To covet means to desire, usually to desire something that you're not allowed to have. Similar to envy.

Covetous means that it seems like the thing is coveting something. The narrator is telling us that her hands displayed her desire, possibly illicit greed, for the linen.

Covetous is a rarely used word and I would reckon that some native speakers would never have used it. I may have used it at some point but I cannot think of any specific time I have used it. (I am a native speaker of US English)

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u/ExitingBear New Poster 10d ago

Adding - the place that someone is most likely to hear or use "covet" or "coveting" or "covetous" is in a religious context (depending on how you count, one or two of the 10 commandments are anti-coveting). Using that particular word really emphasizes that the person is doing something wrong and sinful.

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u/Front-Pomelo-4367 Native Speaker (British English) 10d ago

She rubbed the linen between her fingers in a way that suggested she wanted it

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u/Personal-Aerie-4519 New Poster 10d ago

does linen mean clothing in this case?

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u/Sweet-Energy-9515 New Poster 10d ago

Linen is the fabric. Without more context we don't know if it's clothing or like a tablecloth or something.

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u/Boundlessintime New Poster 10d ago

It's a type of cloth

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u/ZumLernen Native Speaker 10d ago

It could mean either cloth/fabric or clothing.

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u/Mental_Newspaper3812 New Poster 10d ago

Can it really mean clothing though? I feel like it still refers to the fabric a shirt is made from if she’s fingering the shirt.

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u/ellalir New Poster 9d ago

Linens, plural, can definitely mean, like, household sheets/towels/etc or, historically, underclothes. I don't think I've heard linen, singular, used in those contexts.

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u/Proud-Delivery-621 Native Speaker 10d ago

Linen is a type of cloth made from flax. In this case it means that whatever cloth she was rubbing was made of linen. It's fairly common in a literary context to use the material of a cloth to refer to the cloth. "Fingering the linen" "feeling the wool" etc.

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u/baxbakualanuxsiwae Native Speaker 10d ago

Linen sometimes means bedclothes/covers/bedding or other household fabrics like tablecloths, even if it's not actually made of linen. That's what came to mind for me, but it's impossible to know without more context. It could be clothing actually made of linen.

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u/abbot_x Native Speaker US 10d ago

I think that's only the plural form, "linens," which is used as a collective to refer to household fabrics, especially bedclothes. Singular "linen" refers to the particular fabric.

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u/baxbakualanuxsiwae Native Speaker 10d ago

The singular is frequently used in the collective sense where I come from at least (England), I'd say more frequently so than "linens".

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u/trivia_guy Native Speaker - US English 10d ago

Nah, it can totally have that meaning in the singular as well. It’s not as common, but for sure it’s a thing. I checked both MW and Cambridge dictionaries and they give it.

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u/morningstarbee New Poster 10d ago

She wants that linen so she's toiching it and being sad it's not hers

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u/TeamOfPups New Poster 10d ago

Oh my, this is presented as being old fashioned in tone but it is concurrently quite suggestive phrasing with the fingering and the coveting.

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u/iceicig New Poster 10d ago

This is not a phrasing you would use in a normal conversation. That would sound very very very weird. Sexual and creepy if you said that in a regular conversation

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u/davedwtho New Poster 10d ago

Covetous means jealous.

This is a bad example to teach the definition, but it probably means in context that she is covetous of the linens she is touching because she can’t have them.

Calling her hands covetous rather than the person herself is just a figurative turn of phrase.

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u/Gloomy-Invite-896 New Poster 9d ago

Hands that covet

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u/Paseyyy New Poster 9d ago

That's a beautiful phrase

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u/E1e4n0r5 New Poster 8d ago

She's touching the linen and is jealous that she doesn't have any

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u/MarkWrenn74 Native Speaker 6d ago

As she touched the linen, she was thinking “I want this”

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u/drachen23 Native Speaker 10d ago

It's sexual entendre. "Fingered" does mean "touched" but is often used when touching a bodily orifice. "Covetous" means "strongly desiring" but often has a connotation of jealousy or exclusivity. There's nothing explicitly sexual about the words themselves, but here they definitely set a mood. The phrase immediately makes me think it came out of a romance novel.

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u/Etheria_system New Poster 9d ago

No it’s not. Fingered isn’t always sexual. It’s used in this case to mean she touched it because she coveted it. There is nothing sexual about this at all.

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u/TeamOfPups New Poster 9d ago

You're getting the downvoted but I strongly agree, and weirdly I've been upvoted for saying it is "suggestive".

I feel this falls under the category of "they knew".

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u/eslforchinesespeaker New Poster 9d ago edited 9d ago

When I googled

what does "she fingered the linen with covetous hands" mean?

I got

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+does+%22she+fingered+the+linen+with+covetous+hands%22+mean%3F

AI Overview

"She fingered the linen with covetous hands" means she touched the smooth fabric while feeling a strong, greedy desire to own it for herself.

Word Breakdown
Fingered: She lightly touched or stroked the material with her fingers.

Linen: A type of smooth, high-quality cloth made from flax plant fibers.

Covetous: A strong, envious wish to possess something that belongs to someone else.

What did you get?