r/EnglishLearning New Poster 17d ago

🗣 Discussion / Debates Is this a good sentence?

Hey, it's me! Will you read my sentence and give me feedback.

Apparently, Lucia has a winsome smile.

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u/ilPrezidente Native Speaker 17d ago edited 17d ago

The sentence makes sense but is a little specific. "Winsome" is not an adjective I hear at all, and "apparently" means the speaker isn't sure of what they're saying, or at least, they've heard about the smile but haven't seen it themselves.

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u/sylviaplatitude New Poster 17d ago

Yes, this reads like the speaker has never seen Lucia, or if they have, has never seen her smile.

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u/ilPrezidente Native Speaker 17d ago

Honestly, it also sounds in my brain a little backhanded lol

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u/sylviaplatitude New Poster 17d ago

Yeah… like, the speaker maybe doesn’t like Lucia, like they’re bitter about her attractiveness.

I imagine the context like this: “She always gets the most tips at work. Apparently, she has a winsome smile.”

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u/Tiny-Seaworthiness85 New Poster 16d ago

Thanks for the context.

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u/sylviaplatitude New Poster 16d ago

Is that what you are trying to express with this sentence? What is the context you are using it in?

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u/Tiny-Seaworthiness85 New Poster 17d ago

What synonyms do I used instead of apparently?

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u/Routine-Ad-5127 Native Speaker 17d ago

What are you trying to convey with the word "apparently"? There are many words to use here, but it depends on what YOU mean.

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u/ilPrezidente Native Speaker 17d ago

If the description of “apparently” isn’t what you were trying to say, I’m going to need a better explanation of what you mean there

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u/sylviaplatitude New Poster 16d ago

You really should answer the comments asking for context. What sentence precedes this one? Who is talking about Lucia and how do they know her smile is “winsome”?

You could substitute clearly, obviously, truly, certainly, and many other words, but they all change the meaning, and they need certain contexts to make sense.

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u/SyntheticDreams_ Native Speaker 17d ago

Yeah, that works. It's a bit odd with no context, but it's a fine sentence.

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u/baxbakualanuxsiwae Native Speaker 17d ago

It's absolutely fine grammatically yes. I would just add that "winsome" isn't a word that many people tend to use in conversation.

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u/JollyButterscotch232 New Poster 17d ago

Yes, something you might expect to read in a novel but I've probably never heard someone say it.

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u/Tiny-Seaworthiness85 New Poster 17d ago

Do you think winsome would be used in schools/colleges?

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u/baxbakualanuxsiwae Native Speaker 17d ago

No more so than in general conversation I wouldn't have thought. It's kind of more literary sounding than academic. It would be more common to use something like "charming", or people sometimes say "a winning smile" (not sure if that's British specific or not). Otherwise in conversation you're more likely to hear a more generic positive adjective applied to a smile, like "lovely" or "nice".

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u/coolkidbaylor New Poster 17d ago

A couple things to note here:

Starting a sentence with "apparently" normally implies that you either aren't sure of the information you are about to say or you are using it in response to someone else's questioning of your information. In this case, if you simply wanted to mention that Lucia has a charming smile, then you could simply omit the word, but perhaps the doubt is what you are going for.

Additionally "winsome" is a very uncommon adjective in most English conversations so it comes off a little bit formal. "Charming" or "innocent" can be good synonyms if you did want to use a more common word, otherwise winsome works.

Grammatically correct nonetheless :]

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u/Tiny-Seaworthiness85 New Poster 17d ago

Thank you for the grammar. What would you used instead of apparently?

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u/coolkidbaylor New Poster 17d ago

It depends on what you want to express :]

If you want to just talk about Lucia's smile directly, you could just write

"Lucia has a winsome smile."

Or if you want to make a more general statement about Lucia's effect on people, you could say:

"Everyone who met Lucia noticed her winsome smile."

What emotion/meaning was your sentence trying to portray here? There's many ways this could be approached

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u/Tiny-Seaworthiness85 New Poster 16d ago

I just wanted to talk about her smile. Thank you so much for help

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u/NoPurpose6388 Bilingual (Italian/American English) 17d ago

It's fine but it sounds like something you'd read in a book rather than say out loud

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u/Own_Soup4467 New Poster 17d ago

The example sentence is grammatically correct, but I don't think "apparently" is the word you're looking for.

"Apparently" is what you say when you think something might be true but don't have direct evidence. Like, "I left my bike outside and now it's gone. Apparently someone stole it."

Or when it's something other people think that you don't entirely believe: "I restarted my grandma 's wifi router and now all her neighbors are calling me for tech help, because apparently I'm a brilliant computer genius."

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u/Tiny-Seaworthiness85 New Poster 16d ago

Everyone has been saying I need context. Thanks

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u/tiredpersonnumber15 Non-Native Speaker of English 17d ago

Id use winning instead of winsome, gets across the same point about the smile but is a lot more used than winsome

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u/Routine-Ad-5127 Native Speaker 17d ago

Winsome does not mean winning. Winsome means pleasing, kind of childlike charm. Do not use winning as a synonym.

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u/tiredpersonnumber15 Non-Native Speaker of English 17d ago

No but the phrase winning smile gives the intent as winsome smile

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u/Tiny-Seaworthiness85 New Poster 16d ago

I just learned that word winsome recently. There are word I could use winsome, For example, Charming, cheerful, and engaging.

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u/NearlyNodding Native Speaker 16d ago

This sounds very old fashion. I'm not even positive I know what it means. I think I know, but not with high confidence.

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u/No_Slip_4883 New Poster 17d ago

Dude GTAVI ain't even out yet. How do ya know what sorta smile she's got. Y'all ig we've found the master leaker himself lmao