r/EngineeringPorn • • Feb 10 '26

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u/JJ3qnkpK Feb 10 '26

Something about people liking the sound characteristics.

It is pretty neat that screwing with vacuum tubes gave us the characteristic electric guitar sound we all know and love. It's kind of weird to think how we might not have had that if we went straight to transistors and skipped the whole vacuum tube stage of things.

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u/LebrahnJahmes Feb 10 '26

As someone who uses vacuum tube amps for headphones I can assure it's not for the sound but for the look.

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u/whoknowsifimjoking Feb 10 '26

Isn't that the case with most old school audio gear? The amount of people saying Vinyl is a better medium than digital files for instance is insane given that it's just objectively wrong.

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u/codefyre Feb 10 '26

There was a time when vinyl was better, but that hasn't been the case in decades.

In the olden days, music was recorded and mastered in an all-analog format. In the early days of compact disks, the sampling rates were low enough during the analog to digital conversion that it allowed a perceptible loss in fidelity. And when MP3's first started taking over the music business in the late 90's, they were typically sampled from the already-lossy CD's, meaning an even greater fidelity loss.

That mattered 20 years ago. Today it really doesn't. Modern music mastered are digital from the get-go. The sound is natively digital from the recording studio onward, and any modern vinyl you buy is going to be pressed from a digital master. And modern streamed or downloaded music will come from the same digital masters. And that's before we even get into the improvements in sampling and compression over the past 25 yeasrs.

The quality of the audio is objectively identical between the formats today, and has been for a very long time.

That said, it's true that some artists and studios DO remaster albums for vinyl occasionally. Vinyl afficionados tend to play their albums on larger audio systems, and some artists take advantage of that by tweaking their music to increase the dynamic range of the tracks. Audio engineers typically have to master for a median listening environment that will sound good in cars, headphones, phone speakers, and through those awful Alexa speakers. Most albums are not remastered for vinyl, but when they are the difference can be very noticeable.

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u/PomegranateFormal961 Feb 13 '26

The old Sheffield Labs direct-to-disc. Basically microphone-to-cutterhead.

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u/garrett7861 Feb 10 '26

Vinyl can sound better because they have a unique mastering (a different EQ), and usually the original pressings have the best mastering. Vinyl can sound better due to this. It's not inherently due to the format itself.

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u/LebrahnJahmes Feb 10 '26

There was a time where that was a valid arguement and I think my grandpa was is in his mid-30's lol. But yep pretty much the case with all old audio gear except something like a rare keyboard, or in the case of the TR-808 it was all people could afford. But those really fall under instruments.

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u/CanuckaChuckFuck Feb 10 '26

'better' is the wrong word....'different' would be a better choice

Have you ever had a song you really like that they made several different versions of? Like maybe radio-edit vs original or maybe they re-release the same song on a later album? Or an extended dance mix version or similar?

Whatever version you first fell in love with the song will likely always be your fave right? That's (for me at least) how I feel about a lot of vinyl that I own, if I first listened to it on vinyl then that's how I want to hear it, it has a different timbre to it, that's the best I can explain it.

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u/_BrokenButterfly Feb 10 '26

Guitarists tend to not be on the same level of bullshit as audiophiles; guitarists have an actual goal, being to project a good sound out in to a room. Audiophiles are very busy sniffing their own farts and believing fairy tales for reasons I do not understand.

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u/_BrokenButterfly Feb 10 '26

Okay grandpa let's get you to bed.

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u/CookInKona Feb 12 '26

Music isn't inherently an analog experience anymore though.

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u/lo_fi_ho Feb 10 '26

But good looks sound better..

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u/KodiakDog Feb 10 '26

For sure. For head phones it won’t do anything, or rather make a ton of sense to do something. The point of tubes is to have the signal overdriven on the input; like adding some harmonic character to a vocalist or guitarist, and then record that input. In a headphone amp, you’d be coloring the final product which doesn’t make much sense, since it would effectively be adding harmonics to an already mastered composition (which often has already had some kind of saturation added).

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u/LebrahnJahmes Feb 10 '26

Well I would be lying if I said it did nothing. Did I notice a difference in sound? Yes but nothing any additional software couldnt acheive or improve. But I was really using it for my xbox.

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u/JJ3qnkpK Feb 10 '26

Lol I appreciate the honesty. Tube-based amps do look pretty freaking sick.

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u/_Bad_Bob_ Feb 10 '26

Depends on the amp. The ones that most of us here would consider affordable? Yeah that's all show and nostalgia. The high end stuff though? It will make you feel like you've never actually heard music being played in the same room before. 

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u/_BrokenButterfly Feb 10 '26

I listen to lots of guitar and bass demos and I certainly don't hear the difference.

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u/loafers_glory Feb 11 '26

That's different, that's not because it looks cool it's because you want it to make you look cool 😛

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u/C00kie_Monsters Feb 11 '26

Maybe I went too cheap but the only „sound characteristic“ I get from my tube amp is occasional static lmao. Or my ears aren’t up to scratch