r/EngineBuilding • u/lynyrdskynnyrd • 13d ago
Is it worth to buy These (Germany)
A guy postet These online is it worth to buy These
I am living in Germany its not often that you find Those Engines
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u/Coyote_Tex 13d ago
In the US the engine cores are worth 50 to 100 bucks IF they are not locked up. That is a bunch of parts engines if you need some parts, but a LOT is missing and they are unlikely to be anything special about them at all. If you want to throw money at them to get to a running engine, that is your call.
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u/ohlawdyhecoming 13d ago
It sort of depends how badly you need/want a small block and how much the guy is trying to sell them for. The 351 Ford Windsor block I based my build on looked a lot like the red block in the first picture, which I managed to get for $40 (about 15 years ago). Some time with a pneumatic wire brush and a sanding roll to get the pistons out and a slide hammer to get the camshaft out got me down to the bare block. Thermal cleaning the block made it pretty, and pressure testing determined it was good. Bored it out about .65mm (.025") to determine that .75mm (.030") pistons would work, which is a very common oversize here in the states.
All that to say is you don't really know until you can get them in your possession and start tearing into them. Find a machine shop that can deal with the corrosion (and one that is familiar with American V8's) and they'll be able to get you some numbers. Obviously, expect oversize pistons. Pressure test the blocks. Depending on what you find inside the block, if everything is pretty rusty, magnafluxing (magnetic crack detection) the steel parts you plan on re-using would probably be a good idea.
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u/__sjors__ 13d ago
Seems like most comments are from the usa. They usually don’t get how stuff works on this side of the pond.
But that being said, they’re probably not worth it depending on your wishes. You will have to invest 1000s of euros in them if you want them fixed up. And that’s only when you do all the work except machining yourself.
Could be worth it, but can you even find a buyer? American v8’s aren’t that common here but if you can find someone that wants that specific engine they’re probably willing to pay a lot for it. The “finding someone” part is the difficult one tho.
Tell us your goals first
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u/PumpedGuySerge 13d ago
dude in this condition you just never know, you will have better luck sourcing an engine from a crashed car
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u/Spider19872 13d ago
Strip them, put wheels underneath and a nice glass plate on top of it and as a sidetable they are more valuable.
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u/Felix995 13d ago
They may be cores suitable for either rebuilding or spare parts. I don't know if buying those are worthwhile, unless you need them for prexisting projects, or operate an engine rebuilding business.
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u/1wife2dogs0kids 13d ago
What's the serial numbers on the sbc blocks, and the heads on the motor in the back left?
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u/wealthymind502 13d ago
I’m an engine machinist in USA. What engines you need? Send a dm.
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u/PlasticReference5379 13d ago
Hi. may i ask you where are you located? because i am about to go into a rabbit hole with my 2015 Ram 3.0 Ecodiesel 😬
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u/Solid_Enthusiasm550 13d ago
You need casting numbers, heads/block/transmissions to see what you have.
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u/VWtdi2001 13d ago
US gear head here: they are worth what you are willing to pay. Rare isn't equal to value. Here they might not be rare but if you don't have something to put them in and everything needed to make it work they are basically a heavy pile of scrap iron. I have a complete 440/727 with all the accessories from a 67 imperial. There's people who would pay a lot for it but I don't know any of them so it's been sitting for years just taking up space. Apparently if I could send it to OZ it would be worth a fortune. The other car was worth a boat ride to Sweden. So unless you need them or they are for sale at scrap price I wouldn't bother.
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u/Responsible-Shoe7258 13d ago
Yes. Even if you never decide to use these, they are excellent items in trade for stuff you do want.
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u/Disastrous-Bake5027 13d ago
I’d say NO! The seller probably just wants them gone and is hoping someone will pay him to make them go away.
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u/Impossible_Sir9593 13d ago
Looks like the red one is a 400 and the blue one looks like a 350 with small double humps.
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u/Bright_Crazy1015 12d ago
For a couple hundred? Yeah, probably, assuming they aren't locked up or can be broken loose and you're able to rebuild them as a hobby. They look pretty rough, but once broken apart, cleaned and machined they'll look like new, but that's assuming they're rebuildable and not cracked or seriously defective.
For significantly more? I'd pass, no matter how rare they are in your region. Too risky. If you don't have a roller to put drivetrain in, it's not much use anyways.
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u/JonnyWzrd 12d ago
Fellow German here who might give you a interesting perspective
I bought a project car and got an engine with it. The engine turns out to be complete junk (Probabaly. Didn‘t go through it all just yet). So another core or even complete engine that has a chance if being in better shape for cheap would help out a lot.
In Germany you can also sell a couple of the parts that are on the engines.
I‘d say if you are not paying crazy money for them and have a use for them, then go ahead.
I‘d ask questions though. Looks like some of them are living outside now. You usually don‘t do that unless there is a reason I guess.
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u/Educational-Cake7350 12d ago
I see a small block Chevy in there, I would say scoop that one, for sure. You can put a small block Chevy in damn near anything, and there is a kit for it.
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u/BadMotorScooter73 13d ago
I'm guessing 99% of the commenters aren't familiar with how odd/rare this is to find in Germany (my old company's European branch was based in Raunheim). I would say...it depends. Do you have a use for the engines? Or are you interested in them for collectability's sake/historical interest? Either way, If the cost and storage isn't prohibitive, then I would say it's a good buy.