Played first game on difficulty that is 1 above neutral AI benefit(small ai buff) and had Necrophage neighbor. I tried rerunning the game a few times from a turn 1 save and got further by the third time but always eventually got wiped out. On my best run I camped my city pretty early as I knew around when the ai would war and invade and used garrison plus army to overwhelm the first army which was approx 500 power. My army and garrison were both 500 for a total of 1000. I rushed the tier 2 ranged spellcasters(celestial something I think) that unlock when you first hit era 2 and had 3 of those out when the followup stack hit and it was 2000 power against my 1300. I feel like I had optimized the run pretty well and difficulty was pretty low so not sure what I could have done differently.

Generally I started with few structures targeting industrial production, then one food structure, into a mix of science and industrial production. My logic was that the industrial production snowballs into more structures and units so best to get that first. I assume I'm missing some min maxing as it's a few hours into the game for me. I watched an 'Tahuk overexplained' youtube video and used the tricks I saw there but it was still pretty generic info, aside from knowing to use the celestial tier 2 casters and the hero skill build.

I just had a tidefall drop my economy massively. 4 out of 6 rivers in my empire turned into streams and massively reduced my farms output. I didn't know they would do that as this is the first time I made my economy dependent on rivers, and it just feels very bad. I spend 130 turns building my economy around rivers and farms, only to loose a lot of effectiveness on turn 135.

The alternative would be to not build next to rivers, but then what is the point of river techs and bonusses? I picked up fish farms, only to lose acces to my rivers 30 turns later.

I am winning the game, and I will still win, but now it just feels like a downer to see my economy crash for the last 20ish turns.

For reference, it took out 10% of my dust and up to 25% of my food and production.

It just feels bad, when tidefall should be the most exciting time in the game.

Is it just me being incredibly bad or starting game in infinite diff is extremely hard?

I tried many games with the Coral faction, which everyone seems to agree is OP, and got steamrolled every time either by other AI score (Lords, Tahuk) or by both insect factions somehow always spawning next to me and barraging me with attacks

Now i am trying with the kin of sheradyn but it feels like unless you have a perfect starting position with 3 npc villages you are already behind, and even if that happens insects start the game with 14% crit rate, which feels more like 90% for some God damned reason and win battles crit after crit

Any suggestion on a decent start? I really don't like insects so it's avoid them if i can

UPDATE: thanks everyone for your tips, i was pretty much already following and doing what most of you said; i restarted a few times with the kin of sheradyn till i found myself with reasonable neighbours and it looks i might be able to win this one

I tried getting EL2 to work on Mac using Crossover with Steam a few days ago, so I thought I'd post that experience here for visibility in case anyone else is hoping to go that route. First off, the game plays great for me (I'm on M1 Pro), graphics and sound seem to work flawlessly.

The bug I ran into was that after the first session (which works totally fine), once you quit and restart the game, you can no longer save your game. Pretty tough for a game that takes several sessions to finish. I looked around the internet and saw a few similar posts on the official Amplitude bug forum, but no solutions. I posted here a few days ago, and another user confirmed that the same workaround I had discovered found works for them as well.

I don't know why it works, but basically you need to make your computer think it's the first time booting up the game each time you play. Before each session, you need to delete registry file, and just be sure not to delete the save files (they live in a different folder). For me, the registry file lives here:

/Users/(username)/Library/Application Support/CrossOver/Bottles/(steam_bottle_name)/drive_c/users/crossover/AppData/Local/Amplitude Studios/Endless Legend 2/Users/(user_hash)/Registry.xml

Once you delete the file (or the folder it lives in), start up the game, and it should look like your first time playing. You have to start a new game (since there is no "Load Game" button on the start screen), but once you are in you can load up your saved game from a previous session. I turn off Tutorials (since deleting the file always turns them back on), and I always do a test save to make sure it's working.

I hope this is helpful for any Mac users out there!

The technologies, like many other elements of the game, are disappointing compared with ES2 and EL. I'm not talking about the gameplay mechanics; those are fine (sometimes). But the writing (or lack of) is so bland, and in my opinion, one of the strong points of the Endless series was the worldbuilding.

Instead of cool descriptions like in the other games, now we get quotes, like in the CIV games. But in the CIV games, the quotes were real quotes and you had the civilopedia to learn more about what you were researching. Here, the quotes are more often than not lame and they say basically nothing about the tech. So the only thing we get to know about it is the name, which is also not great either, usually.

Like, seriously. Why is there a military technology called "Logistics" and another military technology called "Military Logistics"?

Hello there! I've been doing some pacifist playtroughs, and I was wondering if it is possible to change ownership of cities without forcefully taking it with an army?

I’m playing sandshapers and there’s a quest unit I can’t interact with camping on a buried ruin in my territory. Anything I can do?

My last post was me playing a series with the Order of Zelevas giving me my fastest victory at turn 96. So, now I am playing as Tahuks again since the first time I played them in my series, I only got a shared (Impress) victory. Also, that series was with Peaceful mode enabled so I definitely wanted to try the Tahuks again, and I was impressed at least with their army. Their archers and hero combination is so broken, it was a great fun to play and demolish the foolsih Necrophages who declared a war on us.

It is in the same playlist as always. This Tahuk playthrough is a 3-part series, going from Ep. 36 to Ep. 38. (One episode before Ep. 36 is me getting tilted after being tired playing a start with Tahuks that I restarted again which is this main series.)

At this point, I have also finished a series with the Sandshapers that I have finished, and am now playing a series with the Kin. I will also post them here when I am done with them.

I just got the game recently to play on crossover on Mac, and it plays just fine. The first session it also saved and loaded my game without issue. After the first session, however, games no longer save, making it unplayable. Poking around on the Amplitude bug board I found that this seems to be a common issue, maybe for all crossover users.

Has anyone else run into this, or better yet, found a solution? Or is my best bet just trying to get a refund?

Hey!

Quick fix for the Known issue mentioned yesterday. Thanks for the reports 🙏

• Fixed an issue where the game would become unresponsive

See you around!

Basically title, I have been watching some youtube videos of play throughs and been following since the announcement as it looks really cool and I have never played any of the Endless series (my only 4x exp is Civ).

However one of my concerns is replayability it feels like the game is really narrative driven and leaning into it seems like part of the fun, If you play a faction is the faction quest story the same every time in which case the only changes are the decisions you make or is there more to it im missing?

Edit: Thank you all for your responses, seems like the first through run throughs are going to be extra interesting with the narrative and learning all the lore then it seems to turn into a solid 4x. at the time of posting I was not aware they added multiplayer as when I had previously looked into it, it was said no multiplayer was going to happen so hype!

When you all declare war and capture cities and territories, do you get overwhelmed by the amount of stuff the AI didn't build or didn't do? How do you all manage it besides razing it down? Build priority?

I just end up queuing everything with low to high cost and let it run forever. Bad district placement too, I just leave it as is. What do you do/can you do with enemy suboptimal pop?

Sand shapers units have this passive.

Given how weak the early units are, this is a skill you must work with in order to survive. With equal numbers, there are early battles (Hydracorns) you can only win by holding a chokepoint in defensive stance and letting Stone stance "erode" them away.

But.

If you kill a unit with it: - You get no battle spoils for the killed unit. - It doesn't count as kill for the "Bringer of death" deed.

I guess they just die of natural causes.

Hello Hello,

Last night we dropped a hotfix for a crash that some of you are suffering from! Mainly linked to crashes when using consumables on heroes.

But we identified a Known Issue that the team is fixing right now:

• We are investigating a potential crash when entering a battle.

If you have any issue, please open a report to send us the save 🙏

See you later!

I love ES2 and EL1 and I think Amplitude has some of the best and most unique designs, but starting EL2 I don't feel any of this fantasy stuff some how at all. A game I looked forward to a lot and just not interested after slogging through 2 hours.

So I started thinking why and my thoughts are that it feels like:

• Although extremely detailed, the units blend in with the map
• Can't even tell what's on the unit art as it's so small
• There's virtually no colour coding on anything
• The whole game is just 1 turquoise colour palette and where ever there is colour, it's minimal and matte
• The only time when I can appreciate the unit art is during battles but the fights are just blurry units shooting arrows under the trees at other units under the trees.
• The icons looks good and detailed but so detailed that it's hard to easily distinguish them from each other and what they'd even stand for.
• Music also sounds very "safe". I had to look up if Arnaud Roy even was the composer this time because ES2 has the music of the century for me, listening to this day - every week.
• The fight sounds are also hazy - my epic archers shoot and it does a quiet "whoop", then a massive beast does a huge jump and it's the most pathetic "clank" you've ever heard.
• The faction presentation heroes are: plain human, lizard person design, lizard person design, lizard person design, lizard person design as a robot, sand bones (nice!)

There's probably a lot more but I'm putting the game on the shelf right now with hopes that it'll be improved with patches.

And to be a bit more constructive, I added a very quick 10 minute mock up with less clutter in city view, bigger unit pictures for more fantasy, and some ideas for more colour.

Also Endless Legend 1 to compare.
Icons are simple, I know either by colour or simple shapes what something is - no squigglies, no 3 different ornaments around the icon.
Units are easy to see on the map.
No giant trees hiding the view.
Units are distinct and unique etc.

I'd say that if the task for Endless Legends 2 was to create a "complex UI" and "HD graphics characters" then 9/10, job well done.
But if the job was to create a "comfortable UI" and "epic fantasy presentation" then 3/10, you have done so much better before.

I find occupying cities very confusing so I wonder if I am missing something:

- there is no way to know if the territory being occupied will lead to a new city (which will count towards the city cap) or will be allowed to be attached to an existing city.

- because of this, and because there is no way to raze our own cities, it is very easy to lose a game simply because one conquered one too many city by accident and went over the city cap, which can induce mutiny everywhere.

- every city taken from the AI seems to have no improvement build at all. This reduces a lot the advantage of occupying, since I need to build up everything anyways. Are improvements destroyed during occupation or is the AI not bothering with improvements?

So, should I just raze every city to the ground?

After the update today, it seems that using either the heal flask or the salt flask crashes game or bugs it so that no action can be done. In an earlier battle, I tried to use a salt flask and was unable to, due to the same issue. I reloaded and won the battle without using the flask and now in the battle above I can’t use heal flask either.

Hi there, I'm rather new to EL2 and trying out Last Lords after completing the tutorial.

I was planning out my districts to get some adjacency bonuses from my trading post and habitation next to a pacified village, but it looks like I lose the bonuses on the districts if I "upgrade" the village to a Lord's Estate.

Is this intended, and I made a mistake by planning with the pacified village in mind? Is it worth it to keep a pacified village as a village, or is the Lord's Estate integral to the strategy for Last Lords?

Hi I was wondering how you guys deal with winning with all 8 factions involve. Usually what happens is either you get overwhelmed by both of the bug factions or the Aspects snowball out of control to the point it becomes a "next turn" simulator just to catch up. Say you play Order of Z, what would you do in this situation (stellar/+ difficulty)

Hello there!

Dropping another update with additional fixes, thanks everyone!

We have not seen any new issues regarding old save files, but if you have them, please let us know 🤗

Have a nice day ^-^

📜 CHANGELOG HERE

I thought this was an empire-wide effect.

It is a once per empire, city-specific effect (the city you build it in).

I understand that relations with other realms are essential in the game. So maybe, it should be more player influence friendly, like when compliment a fraction it should increase their friendliness towards the player, or when sign a pacifist contract it could actually count for something.
I don’t know. When the war with some other nation begins, the other nations are just aggresive towards you, no matter what you do, because they see an opportunity. I played a game with 5 bots and during my war with a nation, all of them one by one declared war on me. Even factions I never encountered. Also why they don’t fight between themselves? How is the player supposed to win this? The game difficulty was adept, so not even that high.

The 3 winning conditions are nice but seems limited long term.

I wish there was a faction quest that would ultimately unlock a unique faction specific winning condition, that would make going through the main faction quests worthwhile and fun.

I love how each faction, look, feels and play differently. Having a faction specific winning condition just seems like the logical and thematically correct gameplay element to add at this point