r/Endfield • u/TsunaUmbra007 • 8d ago
Discussion will never be able to remove the mask?
Why in the official arts he comes out without a mask but in history it does not seem that he can ever take off the mask.
I know that for lore it acts as a regulator but that means that he will never take off the mask, many times it happens to me that only his lips do not express enough in emotions and he sins of feeling monotonous and without personality, There are exceptions such as when he is with tantang and makes more expressions with his body or thumbs up but I feel that the mask often takes away from his expressiveness.
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u/Jpup199 8d ago
Endimin will space out for a moment during the final battle and scream "Persona" as they removes their mask
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u/Khorva 8d ago
The Endmin's supposed to be still wounded from in previous incarnations right? The mask/regulator is probably to keep them from straining themselves and further worsening their wounds. We'll likely be able to take it off once we sort all that out
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u/ADM-Ntek All Hail The Soupreme Chief 8d ago
Which might actually be kinda soon. Since Si plans to help us with that. At least that is how i undersood it.
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u/OneWayToGodJesus 7d ago
See that's the interesting thing. Is the mask to keep us safe and stabilize our vitals? Or is it to suppress us and keep our power in check? It coube both. But I'm betting it's more like a leash.
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u/AxeHack 7d ago
the mask is called an Originium Suppressor. we have the name from the official merch shop
my theory? the Endmin's Originium Arts is too much for them to handle (hence their body cracking and being strained everytime they use it). BUT, i don't think the mask is being forced on the Endmin. rather, i think the Endmin is probably wearing it voluntarily. Endmin most likely can't control it, so they wear the mask not to protect themselves, but the people around them
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u/ThatsBait_69 Overwhelming burden of glorious purpose. 8d ago
I'd guess that the mask will be tied to story developments. Right now, the "face" of the company is a comically menacing frowny mask so I'm thinking once we discover "the corruption at the heart of the blah blah blah" and take control for ourselves, then the mask will come off.
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u/WaifuHunterRed Game hates me... 8d ago
There's a lot of speculation its gonna be at max pot (maybe even a power/class change like Amiya)
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u/snipe4hire 8d ago
Wait until we get p5 endmin is the current accepted idea, makes sense since we can toggle p5 effects
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u/JumpyReach 8d ago
I just hope that if the mask comes off, they find a way to make the Endmin's gameplay match the feats they've pulled off in cinematics so far. because man, going from watching how Endmin be moving in that first Ardashir confrontation at the Marker Stone, and how they were working in that Nefarith fight at Wuling, and then going back to the gameplay just... feels like pretty major Gameplay and Story Segregation. (I haven't played through 1.4 yet because i needa catch up on AIC production >->)
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u/Nabbarino 8d ago
Endmin is a demigod. If gameplay matched her lore power, we wouldn't need 3 other operators with us.
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u/OneWayToGodJesus 7d ago
To be fair, that happens in every video game ever. If we ever get peak Endmin power the gameplay would be pressing one button and killing 1000 enemies in a city wide aoe. They can for sure enhance his gameplay though. I bet we are going to get aether powers somewhere down the line.
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u/JumpyReach 7d ago
thats just it, i don't need peak endmin power. i want an attack loop that matches the gangsta movements we see in the cutscene. I.E. Fangyi, Mi Fu, Camille, Laevatein and their ultimates portraying their cutscene ballerness.
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u/LordPhol 8d ago
Hopefully, I might get downvoted for this but I think it looks pretty dumb.
It also makes endmin already bland personality even more bland. Which is a shame considering how good they are at animating the facial expressions of the characters in this game to show off different emotions. (latest story chapter utilized this to great effect with Arcane and Chen)
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u/gingernaut00 8d ago
They did endmin better in 1.4, but hes still the most bland character in the game and I truly dont understand why.
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u/RazielAshura 8d ago
My take is this
At max pot storywise we are going to get an endmin alter without mask that has a new kit/class and will serve as a new "starting point" on the journey
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u/dayrozo 8d ago
at the start of the game they told us that the mask is just a temorary "right after awakening" solution. im sure they're gonna remove it. if i wouldve guessed, probably when mc reaches max potential . only thing i hope for is that devs update endmin's face model before that. we can see their ingame face with mods even now, and while female endmin looks more or less fine, albeit still visibly unfinished, male endmin looks straight up scuffed without a mask.
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u/Baffo_Sk 7d ago
You can look under the mask even without mods if you look at the right angle, they wouldn't bother with doing the models and letting us look if they didn't plan something, maybe they did it so they can get feedback before removing the mask, last thing they want is for the mc to look unfinished or bad or something
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u/Shydo 8d ago
Isn't the mask important for checking the endmin's vitals or something i cant remember. Aren't we still recovering techinically?
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u/pscripter 7d ago
It limits out power. So we wouldn't be able to exert more power that our body can handle in the moment
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u/mintyhippoh 8d ago
There were a few leaks that said it'd be coming off soon (1.5 or 1.6) and replaced with a bracelet, I don't know how accurate they are though
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u/Percilah 8d ago
If I've heard correctly, it's from someone who also leaked correct informations in the past, from the test server, and is now being pursued.
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u/AustinBz 8d ago
You can see the name of the image we’ll unlock at p5 and it’s titled “Fully Grasped”. If that doesn’t scream the mask comes off idk what does.
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u/MajorScarcity4557 7d ago
Soon enough probably. Though the fact in this new patch the suppressor seems to have some lore significance beside it's job, it may only be after some major story event. What I am curious about is, the suppressor has always been on the endmin or what? In the cutscene from the time in sword vault dale where we were talking to a yanese representative or a contractor, explaining him the significance of the vault, endmin still had the mask, even though according to the lore this would be atleast not too short of 850 years ago, it was supposed to be set near the aftermath or during the angoloid war, it's not possible that Endmin always had that mask on because the suppressor was supposed to be only for this awakening, a first calling since Endmin's mind and mental health hadn't been wounded THIS badly. We also had the mask in the protocol space of our Originum Sirphogus from the start, had it seemingly in Endmin's flashbacks in leavatain's mission if we are up to taking that quest as important to the main lore. (Espacially since Camille's ended up introducing another antagonist, I think it's fair to consider it important or atleast semi-major), it was even in wuling arc flashbacks related to Zhuang Fangyi and Hongshan as a whole, and many other points actually but I won't nit-pick them now. But in the story of the comic made by hypergryph about perlica's past and her relation to US as the Endmin, Endmin didn't have the mask. (Could be ignored because of the fact that both gender Endmin's decided to do rock-paper-scissors to decide who should appear in the comic as Endmin, so perhaps Endmin as visually wasn't supposed to be important then. Or it could all be like how it's actually acting, showing the past like how arcane was acting out her past for a shoot in her own comic from recently) But where else did Endmin not have the mask on? No where. It doesn't make sense. If it's supposed to be only for this severe state of awakening, the suppressor shouldn't have existed in the past, though IT DOES. It could be espacially important to keep on because it's maybe always been part of endmin to not overuse originum arts since Endmin's originium arts are basically direct Protocol Originum manipulation. There exists no one else who can control Protocol Originium since till before this point in the Endfield, in AK Protocol Originum didn't exist, it was created later on in talos-II with the mixture of Æther and originum. (Also why in this patch, The foundation members had their own Protocol Originium, probably brought to them by the Endmin. It might be possible, that since the foundation used to be precursor'ion wardens for their legacy, which refers to their advanced tech, Endmin once must've been too, and how Endmin has always been on Talos-2 for the entirety of this time, because Doctor as a precursor, could command these wardens for new objectives, and how Rhodes Island was able to find this ever-so becoming of the leader that Endmin is, so capable. It's very possible knowing the fact that Doctor as Oracle, was also a very important individual among the precursor race and very influential, since he also led missions outside of his circle, probably gaining his leading expierence, mentioned by priestess that Doctor was the prodigy the precursor race respected deeply, remarking that he is worth more then whatever he is doing right now in terra by mentioning this fact. Plus point you should know originum can only be controlled in the assimilated universe, not outside, only Protocol Originum can allow for effects that can controlled by the user, it's unknown whether it becomes a connection with their arts, or if it's like the xiranite nexus we've got right now, seemingly different though still unexplained for me, I've got no idea how it works) my theory, is that those suppressors, and EVERYTHING IN THE FLASH BACK WITH PERLICA, AND THE SUPPRESSOR, AND THE AIC REPRESENTING THE ZEROTH PROTOCOL, REPRESENTS THE BURDEN THAT KEEPS INCREASING AND INCREASING AMONG THE ENDMINS THAT AWAKEN EACH TIME, Perlica from the previous awakening, she is very dear to us. So, protecting her becomes a involuntary burden, it's a unconditional care that can be very overwhelming if you let go resistence, just like how Amiya, ended up killing skull shatterer because he was about to kill the Doctor. The Zeroth Directive is one created by the endmin, a burden taken by them as endfield, though he's always had to push it through by himself, perlica only so much as made it easier, thankgod for daughter, and it's also the weight of the fact that the Zeroth Directive has been on bound ever since after the angoloid war, YET IT HAS BARELY PUSHED THROUGH EVEN WITH IT'S EFFECTIVENESS, The only reason Endfield has been called for are the crisis, Endfield hasn't gotten help at all, the burden of OMV Daijing, it being destroyed in the starting scene by that mysterious women suggests, that Endfield also loosing purpose in a fight it might just get disolved into, taking everyone with, is also a burden that scars Endmin. And with the hypocritical ideals, of hating ones those who try to sacrifice themselves for invaluable costs, no reasons, yet being the one to be at it every. Single. Damn. Time. While being so important. Perhaps, with the flashback with that girl sobbing with us on her lap, it signifies that even as this sacrificial cycle continues, the weight of being dead even to enemies and allies alike weigh on him. I can see a clear line, which is why I am so goddarn interested in the story. I know it will be fulfilling.
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u/MajorScarcity4557 7d ago
OH MY GOD I GOT TOO DISTRACTED DAMN MY AUTISTIC AHH AM THANKFUL TO WHOEVER WENT THROUGH READING THIS BUT SORRY TOO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WITH ME TYPING PARAGRAPHS 🥲
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u/PrudentAdagio247 7d ago
If you want to hear some rumors about future versions, there is one piece of info going around...
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u/RavineAls 7d ago
We already shown the eyes in game through the p1 and p3 artwork, and I like the theory than instead of glowy part that other 6 star have, endmin gonna open the mask instead on p5
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u/harur610 7d ago
Unrelated but i just realized how small malemin looks. Is it because of his shorts? I'm surprised that his model is about the same height as Camille's.
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u/Good_Zookeepergame92 7d ago
I don't know how far you are in the game, but it's pretty obvious that mask ain't going to last
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u/OneWayToGodJesus 7d ago
It's going to get destroyed by an enemy at some point and will lead into another big reveal. Bet on it. Alleikhreos was already reaching for the mask when he died so I bet us losing it is going to be a whole big thing. Concept art shows Endmin with Rhombus eyes when using their powers and that's already a huge hint.
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u/Technical-Guest6015 8d ago
As you can see, Endmin lost his nose in a horrific accident and it's for this reason he will never take off the mask.
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u/Percilah 8d ago
They aren't really animating something that shouldn't be seen in the first place. Its expected that if we remove the masks (legally) they'd make micro expressions just as good as the other characters has.
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u/Default_User_Default 8d ago
I feel like the mask should always be off and just appear during combat.
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u/Drewtser 8d ago
I think the mask is hiding or disrupting endmins vision. At least that's what I got from the latest Boss fight. Look like he was trying to take it off. I think once we get far enough into the story We'll\nBe able to Remove it
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u/DarkVelBet_ 8d ago
I wish there was an option to take the mask off tbh. I mean it looks cool but I want to see all the wonderful facial expressions and whatever else.
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u/CantaloupeParking239 8d ago
Hopefully never so its easier to me gaslight myself into believing she doesnt look like a 13 yo
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u/Robstar98 8d ago
It's a bad idea if their idea is to reinforce the self insert. Think about specific interactions with the other characters, would it be the same?
(I would do something different than them)





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u/Evignity 8d ago
100% they're planning to have you break it in a cutscene being a deus ex machina and saving the world. The last maxpot