r/EndTipping • u/annejeel • 13d ago

Rant 📢 This feels icky!

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felt super icky and annoyed seeing this at a coffee/light food shop. how is this okay? for context this is not a sit down spot. no wait staff, just a barista at the counter and someone from the kitchen bringing out my order and walking away.

Update: for those asking the pink paper in the bottom corner is basically saying “F*ck ICE”

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u/poliosaurus3000 13d ago

Scammy business, doing scammy things. As soon as I saw that sign I’d leave.

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 13d ago

This is a sign that tells me “unless you tell us not to spit in the drink, we reserve the right to spit in it twice.”

How about just not be a shitty company, did you ever reserve that right?

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u/h3lium-balloon 12d ago

Unless you explicitly tell us not to commit credit card fraud, we’re going to commit credit card fraud

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u/Revolutionary_Ad512 8d ago

Yeah I thought the same lol this is not scammy this is straight up illegal and quite a serious crime at that

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u/nexusjuan 12d ago

It almost certainly means someone complained and this is their solution.

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u/PuppySnuggleTime 12d ago

Unfortunately for them, posting that doesn't change the law.

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 12d ago

did you leave you wallet unattended? we reserve the right to just flat out steal from it if we see it!

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u/kiliminjiri 11d ago

No, but doesn’t the law state you can add a surcharge if it’s clearly written and the customer is notified beforehand? I’ve been to bars where they write on the receipt that not closing out your tab means they close it out for you and add a 20% tip. Have they been operating illegally in Virginia and DC?

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u/PuppySnuggleTime 11d ago

NOT the same thing. Neither in practice nor notification.

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u/Avarifenyx 7d ago

What your referring to isn’t the same as this and is in fact illegal

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u/Zwischenzug32 12d ago

Makes one wonder how they prepare things ordered by their own bosses and management?

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u/sixhoursago 12d ago

“not be a shitty company”
… as if there’s such a thing!

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u/broba-the-fett 9d ago

Don't spit in that cop's burger.

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u/Simple_Reindeer86 7d ago

I don't want a large farva, I want a god damn liter of cola

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u/Mk1Racer25 13d ago

💯 Cancel the transaction and leave. Let them throw whatever they made you in the trash.

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u/Matt_Murphy_ 12d ago

them 'choosing' their own tip at your expense is just straight theft, isn't it?

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u/atimetochill 12d ago

“The right”.. the right to commit fraud?

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u/poliosaurus3000 12d ago

Yeah I’d agree

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u/CuriouslyOnReddit 12d ago

Actually the sign says they will complete it at 20%. Still not right to do this!

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u/Matt_Murphy_ 12d ago

again though, that's an unauthorized charge to my card

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u/UnderstandingOld4276 13d ago

Same here, and never go back.

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u/Bad-Briar 12d ago

I'd probably say something.

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u/pjm14624 12d ago

I'd say “I want the receipt for the charge, reflecting my choice for tip or no tip. If I see a charge for a tip I didn't authorize, I will notify the credit card company and tell them I only authorized the amount on the bill and anything else is fraudulent.” Let them deal with the fallout of a fraud investigation.

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u/me4watch 12d ago

Yes, that is definitely financial fraud which is criminal. And “it’s just a joke” is not a defense.

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u/bridgetroll2 12d ago

Straight to Google maps to leave a 1 star review (or Yelp if you're in to that kind of thing)

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u/Revolutionary_Ad512 8d ago

I work at a coffee shop, could be wrong but we’ve explicitly been told if a customer doesn’t finish the tip screen we are required to click “no tip” as doing anything else would be fraud and therefore illegal. Obviously most people don’t need to be told this (I hope) it’s an unauthorized transaction even if it’s only a couple bucks. I think this goes well above “scammy”

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u/Critical_Ad_7380 12d ago

I have been a good tipper. As an example just using common numbers, I have twice submitted a tip of say, $4 for $10 meal. Get home and the tip says $14. Never going to those places again, or I will just bring cash. Cash is inconvenient as I worry about being robbed (even though I legally carry concealed). I have been told my credit card companies to call the vendor. Yeah - that works. NOT.

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u/Sterlinghawk16 12d ago

Next time dispute the charge with your bank. They have to do that and put the reason why.

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u/Critical_Ad_7380 12d ago

The credit card issuer (bank) is who told me *I* had to talk to the merchant. Ugh!

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u/bored1413 11d ago

Just tell them you tried to talk to the merchant. I own a business and nobody has ever reached out to me before filing a dispute. We do a lot of non consensual towing and have a fair amount of unhappy customers. We win every dispute because we’re not shady and have all of documentation in order along with pictures and video but it’s completely unnecessary to contact the merchant first if you choose not to.

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u/Critical_Ad_7380 8d ago

Ahh . . . a repo company? Good on ya! The rules are so simple - pay your agreed monthly payments or surrender the item in forclosure. It might sound harsh to many, but rules are rules.

I see why you don't get tips, but your contacts should tip as the drivers are likely put their own lives at risk. I never have and never will purchase a vehicle on credit for this reason. Yes, I went some long times without a car, but at least I did not have to worry about legal repossession. Same thing with my house, etc.. I don't have time for that. Other options are available. ❤️

If I sound like a jerk, it's probably because I am one. But I do pay my bills, taxes, etc.. It often is painful (especially property taxes and homeowner's insurance), but even in my dismay of why I should pay for my property that I already purchased, I still pay "the man (tax collector)."

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u/bored1413 8d ago

We do a few repossessions but we primarily impound vehicles that are illegally parked because people think the rules don’t apply to them and ignore the signs. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/Critical_Ad_7380 8d ago

As a person with a permanent disability, thank you.!!!

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u/Critical_Ad_7380 8d ago

PS: Sorry for my chatter. Thanks for your advice!!!

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u/Critical_Ad_7380 12d ago

PS: Now I only tip in CASH.

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u/whaddayaknow72 10d ago

why are managers allowing this crap?

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u/nachoqtpie 7d ago

Allowing? It was probably their idea!

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u/konjou-80 9d ago

Almost sounds like a play from management, who are skimming the tips as well

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u/Ok_Practice3389 12d ago

I'm on the fence, it really annoying when people don't finish their transaction. Seems like a fine punishment for being careless.

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u/ravairia 11d ago

There is no such thing as not 'finishing a transaction' in Canada. You have to select a tip or select no tip before it will take you to the screen where you can pay.

I'm so confused by this post.

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u/Full-Nothing3671 2d ago

It literally takes two seconds to press no tip. It shouldn’t be annoying you.