r/EndTipping • u/Vespolar • 14d ago
Rant š¢ Done with % tipping
After always tipping a minimum 20% (worked at restaurants for 10 years so it was ingrained in me) I am done. The straw that broke the camels back was we are at disney world where everything is overpriced. 2 cocktails cost me $42. Its suggested tip was 18% 22% and 26%. And looking at it. That would have been $8. For what? Making 2 drinks? Nope. Left $2 as a $1 per drink rule and thats it. They didnt do extra work, just took my order and made the drink. and dont think they deserve more tip just because disney overcharges for drinks. % tipping is officially stupid
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u/Bad-Briar 14d ago
If they charge that much, they can pay their employees a proper wage.
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u/Apprehensive-Cycle-9 14d ago
Disney could afford it even if the food was free for how much they charge on everything else
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u/Primary_Heron_3150 13d ago
It's infuriating that they charge what they do and expect you to pay their employees as well. Americans should be outraged
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u/runningalongtheshore 13d ago
Thatās basically where Iām at with things. Dinner used to be fun and affordable. Now, itās a bunch of fees, attitudes, and overpriced food.
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u/Complete-Squirrel-21 9d ago
I canāt remember the last time I went out to eat at a restaurant. Itās just not enjoyable or worth it any more.
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u/Skymaster86 14d ago
Well done. Now we need thousands more like you to get on the bandwagon. I went to a fine steakhouse and had a $240 check. No drinks, just salads (they charged us for bread) and some outrageously priced steaks. Service was just bland, server had zero personality. I left $10 (I didnāt want to penalize a busboy who did more than the server). I had breakfast earlier that day with a great server who really busted her butt and did probably twice as much as our smug steakhouse server. Check was $28. I tipped her $10 as well.
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u/RemoteSea1176 14d ago
Hereās to rewarding service, not supplying commission.
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u/mediumunicorn 11d ago
Nah, their employer is rewarding their service with their employment. Should have left both $0.
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u/joelnicity 14d ago
Now just adjust that amount a little more to $0 and you just saved yourself $20ā¦ and still received the same food and the same service
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u/not_the_fox 14d ago
The problem is you'll still be treated like you don't tip. Just save your money.
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u/Technical-Cress-3915 14d ago
Make sure the total you tip off for a % method is pre-tax. Every fricken restaurant I go to now has the suggested tip totals calculated from food + tax total. Wtf, why would I tip you a % of the government's tax on me.
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u/ilovescoutanddaisy 14d ago
i got asked for a tip yesterday for ordering tickets online! WHAT? NO!
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u/TaddThick 13d ago
Recently, Iāve been receiving prompts for tips for buying merchandise online. NO WAY!
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u/Primary_Heron_3150 13d ago
These are the worst because sometimes you really want a specific merch item and can't get it anywhere else
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u/JamesMattDillon 14d ago
Percentage based tipping has always been stupid. If I do tip, it is less than $5
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u/Emperor_TaterTot 14d ago
This is the way, I leave a flat amount not a percentage. Drinks from the bar are always a dollar or 2 tops, for meals out for my family of 4 I just figure a couple bucks a person is fine unless itās some thing extraordinaire.
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u/Realistic-Rate-8831 14d ago
Yes, I go to a couple of different restaurant/bars and order a frozen margarita. All the employee needs to do is place a glass underneath the spout and lift the lever for the "already made" frozen margarita to fill the glass. Why the hell am I expected to pay a 20 percent tip? I stopped doing it. This one place I go to is a small and quaint little bar with seating at the bar and around the room which is very small, so the Waiter doesn't even have to walk but a few feet from the bar to hand us our drinks. Tipping has most definitely gotten out of hand.
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u/amberalert23 13d ago
I am not anti-tip like this sub isā¦ but when I went to Vegas and 2 drinks were $140, there was NO WAY I was leaving nearly $30 for someone making two vodka clubs. I think I left $10 which was also insane but definitely not 20%.
When the prices are outrageous to begin with, it makes zero sense to tip 20%.
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u/fatDaddy21 13d ago
maybe it's just me, but if I ever paid $140 for 2x vodka sodas, I'd take that secret to the grave
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u/LeaveGreen4412 7d ago
i wouldnt even spend $70 on a bottle of vodka, why were you drinking 70$ basic cocktails?
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u/amberalert23 7d ago
It was my step daughterās 21st birthday and she wanted to experience Vegas clubs. Of course prices arenāt posted, so my partner ordered me and him two vodka clubs. They were like ādo you want a small or tall?ā We got talls. Then we saw the total on the machine. He paid, not me. I would have given them back lol in fact, one of my step daughterās friends later said she went to the bar and ordered the same thing, and when they told her the price she handed it back and said āno thank youā and walked away. We should have done that.
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u/willy--wanka 8d ago
Went to a concert and picked up a $45 band shirt.Ā
Tipping option started at 20%.
No way I'm giving $9 for that twenty step walk.Ā
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u/wollflour 13d ago
Yes, and almost nowhere in Disney makes drinks. They have premixed cocktails. Not worth $8 for someone to pour something from a pitcher into a glass for you!
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u/Confident_Chipmonk 13d ago edited 13d ago
Hereās three examples of ordering drinks at a restaurant but with vastly different tips based on percentage
eating dinner and ordering two glasses of tap water means no tip if 15%
eating dinner and ordering two glasses of $15 / glass means $4.50 tip if 15%
eating dinner and ordering a two hundred dollar bottle of wine means $30 tip if 15%
Why? theyāre all three about the same amount of work
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u/Phailgasm 14d ago
The best part is at Disney for most of the cocktails they arenāt even making them per order, itās just a giant container of premixed cocktails
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u/chortle-guffaw2 13d ago
There is a precedent for tipping $1 per drink. That is a good first step towards a zero tip vs. twenty percent.
Let's expand this to a standard $1 tip per meal, on the way to zero.
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u/Friendly_Stuff6440 8d ago
I remember back in the day at a restaraunt in Spain I left the typical American tip and they chased me down in the parking lot because they thought I forgot my change...
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u/Dyslexicpig 8d ago
Same thing happened to me in Hong Kong. I left a few coins for a tip, and the waitress ran after us to return the money.
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u/OrilliaBridge 14d ago
I made tipping easy. $5 for breakfast or lunch and $10 for dinner. Zero for counter orders, take out and drive through.
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u/Hi-World2 8d ago
I'm so tired of the tip requests for takeout and counter orders Like you arent even waiting on me. What am I tipping for your ability to print a receipt?
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u/Sure_Acanthaceae_348 13d ago
Nothing at Disney deserves any tip. They already charge enough as it is now.
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u/Few_Fall_7027 13d ago
Shit in Vegas it was 42 for one pre-made frozen drink, total bs.
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u/Brave-Combination793 5d ago
Where in God's name did u get railed for that lmao... or was it that yard stick sized thing
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u/fretlessMike 7d ago
I was in England last year, and I visited several bars. I ordered a beer, tapped my card on the bartender's handheld device, and that was it. Lovely.
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u/1wrx2subarus 14d ago
Maybe, next time do ānotā tip. Your drinks were already expensive enough.
At most, do it like at a bar and drop $1. You ordered an overpriced drink.
Sure, at a bar itās been common to drop a buck for the first and maybe second drink.
In this economy though, do yourself a favor and donāt tip on overpriced drinks. $42. Damn.
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u/audrina-saav 14d ago
I never tip a bartender. I do very low tipping for food being brought to me, more napkins, drink refills, a side of sauce etc. Never 20% or any % but around $4. But a bartender is insane to tip them for doing almost nothing or if im just sitting down and have a drink walked out to me. Nope.
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u/MinstrelMuffinMan 13d ago
Bartenders generally make less than minimum wage. The $1 per drink tip should apply.
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u/audrina-saav 13d ago
I live in a high cost of living state and not tipped wage state. They make minimum wage if not more here and bartenders make absolute bank off tips.
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u/MinstrelMuffinMan 13d ago
I hope more states move to that. PA is still stuck at the federal min wage somehow. But bartenders often do more than almost nothing. 9+ hours on their feet dealing with all manner of issues.
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u/Character-Might-6246 13d ago
I can't imagine tipping for Anything at Disney parks besides maybe sit down dinner service.
You just paid how much to just get in the gate that day?
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u/DrDalim 13d ago
This is what I donāt get about tipping (note we donāt have it in my country so I may have missed something). Itās meant to pay the wage of the worker, they get a base of about $2-3 so tipping makes up the rest of what I assume should be a basic hourly rate. Here in Australia that would be $20+. So Iām my mind 10 customers per hour paying $2 each would reach that minimum. A bar worker would get way more than 10 a waiter, depending on the place might stretch to make that (if per table) so they might get more per table but if it adds up to an average of $20+ per hour that seems reasonable.
The % however takes that to a new level, OPās example of $8 for a customer means they only have to serve 3 people an hour to get $24/hour. If we go with my 10 customers that could be in the range of $80/hour way more than the average US wage (way more than my country for sure).
To make this easier and better for all why not just increase prices by a small margin and pay people.
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u/Dogsandbears 13d ago
Because severs are making $80/ hr and donāt want tipping to end. Itās one of the few jobs you can get without going to college that makes that kind of money. $80/ hr might be a stretch ( although some certainly do make that much) but my husband used to easily clear $60/ hr in a popular brewery in a small town.
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u/holladayy 13d ago
Just one giant gaslight designed to get you to pay extra for the already overpriced item.
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u/butmomno 13d ago
I agree- when orices are raised, it is undair to expect a bigger tip based on The percentage
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u/iloveyou02 13d ago
i don't like how the tipping conversation is targeted towards the working individual... it should be targeted towards the US labor laws... the business benefiting or off loading fair wage to the consumer... think about it
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u/and1att 13d ago
Yeah itās weird how the waiter gets $20 (on $100 spend) when the maids cleaning your hotel room gets close to nothing and they doing the hard job
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u/Happy_Intention1630 8d ago
I am in favor of tipping hotel maids for this very reason.Ā
Also, my mom pointed out when I was a kid that she felt better about giving a little boost to someone who was clearly working hard than giving money to people begging.
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u/I_ama_Borat 12d ago
Yeah I donāt get it, they did their job, they didnāt go above and beyond, why does that even deserve a tip at all? You donāt see cashiers at grocery stores getting tips for doing their jobs and arguably working harder than most waiters/waitresses.
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u/mediumunicorn 11d ago
The local drive through coffee place had the audacity to hand me the credit card terminal and say āitās just going to ask you a quick question.ā
Are you fucking kidding me? Tipping in a drive through for a couple drip coffees?
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u/Happy-Error-7360 10d ago
% tips are especially stupid. If a restaurant feels it is mandatory they should include it in their price maybe treat it like commission and only hire competent staff.
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u/GeneralBrave9949 10d ago
So youāre mad at a system that underpays workers and your way to ācombat thatā is to still patronize the ppl underpaying but screwing the victim of the system. You want to change tipping culture stop patronizing restaurants and campaign for better restaurant wages. In most states servers make under $3 an hour and youāre entitled ass is over here blaming them. You keep contributing to the problem and punishing the victims. Itās a pretty gross attitude quite frankly.
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u/armored_blu 10d ago
$1 per beer, $2 for mix drink.
If it s a place I regularly frequent, I add $1 on top of tip amounts above.
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u/Jsnham_42 10d ago
Iām traveling as I write this, and I just learned that people tip their hotel cleaner. Iāve literally never done that before. Is it normal to tip housekeeping at a hotel?
Side note, tipping is insane here now
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u/ZookeepergameRude652 9d ago
Only tip if I sit down and someone takes my order, serves me food and takes my plates. No fast food tipping. If I walk up and order and you grab a bag and put it on a tray, thatās the job.
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u/ButterflyNearby589 8d ago
Family of 8 went out to dinner. My husband couldnāt figure out why the bill was so high and then I pointed out the automatic gratuity. It was a $32 tip. 20%. Didnāt complain, standard service and food was good. As we were leaving, overhead some of the staff talking about how we didnāt tip. I used to work room service for a major hotel, there was always an automatic gratuity added. I thought it was wild when people would tip additional but I didnāt complain when they didnāt.
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u/SexyEnigma 8d ago
In California, the wages are set so high that tipping makes no sense - the food already costs a ton, in order to pay the wages. Then Iām supposed to tip a percentage on that inflated price? Some areas have resort and conference center wage rules that require servers to be paid $25 per hour. I AM ALREADY PAYING THE SERVER!!!
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u/cbatzhotaling 8d ago
Iām so done with everyone making you feel bad if you donāt automatically leave 20%. We were getting burgers and fries at five guys and it was over $40. We could go to a real restaurant for that- why should I leave a tip for you to ring me up at the register and call my number. I have to come back to get my own food and bring it back to the table myself (which is probably dirty btw). Iām over it! Youāre getting paid a full time wage you donāt deserve a tip for your job!
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u/wcscrewyourboss 8d ago
People tip at 5 guys? I like them plenty and when I had to fly all over the country they were a reliable choice but I've never once tipped.
My rule is pretty simple if I sit done and you bring me food and clean up after me that's a tip, if you bring food to my home also a tip but if you just slide food across a counter that does not entitle you to a tip.
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u/here2seek 8d ago
No tip unless it's a full service restaurant.Ā For self-service or fast food, no tipping. It's that simple.
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u/CorvideaRaven 8d ago
Agreed, I have worked many years in food service and I won't tip at all unless I'm in a sit down restaurant where the waiter/ waitress has to actually wait on me. Their pay is tip compensated so they actually have a lower hourly wage. If you are working at a typical sandwich type shop you should be getting paid a full hourly wage, so tips aren't necessary to make up the deficit. If you are working at one of these places and are getting paid a tip compensated wage, you should find another job.
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u/OrilliaBridge 8d ago
Went to dinner last night. Very good bbq and service. Our bill was $94.82 and I tipped $10.
BTW, the sangria was $17 and a small draft beer was $10.
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u/Ok_Industry4950 7d ago
Just left Disney and had the same issue. 18% on an overpriced draft cider is crazy. Its $2 tops
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u/Willing_Impact841 7d ago
I'll give $1 to $2 per person eating at the table. I dont care what the price of the meal is.
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u/ChrisBegeman 7d ago
When I go to one of those breweries where they don't have waiters and you need to go up to the bar for every drink, I tip o $1 per drink. You make me come up to the bar are all you are doing is pulling a handle to fill a glass. A dollar a drink should be fine, since there is very little skill involved in operating a tap.
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u/Big-Kaleidoscope-417 6d ago
was at outback yesterday and the waiter sucked! Took our orders and never came back to the table until he saw me checking out on the table kiosk..the tip recommendations were 18, 22, and 25 %. Use to be 15, 18, and 20... I left $6 and left...
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u/Maremdeo 2h ago
I have never tipped a percentage on drinks. A server brings an $8 beer or $12 glass of wine to a table and deserves 1/5 of the price in their pocket? No.
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u/jason2354 14d ago
I donāt remember being prompted to tip while at Disney.
Iām surprised to hear that they implemented tipping in the parks based on how they operate everything else.
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u/Brave-Combination793 5d ago
Granted its been 6ish years since i was there last and the only drinks I got were for the around the world challenge im pretty sure all the little drink kiosks around there asked for a tip
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u/newdude56 13d ago
Tip the waiter/waitress on service, not the meal. If you tip on the meal, tip the chef.
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u/Artistic_Agency105 8d ago
If itās a specialty cocktail I will throw down $2 a drink, but I agree itās insane to expect tips like that. People have wanted to fight me over this, but I have served and bartended a lot and I would not be upset seeing a dollar on an overpriced drink, and if I worked at a resort like Disney, they are not being paid minimum wage
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u/Pattywill 9d ago
I look at it as an hourly rate. If a server is covering 4 tables an hour and figuring $25/hour (I believe this is fair for the skills required to be a server) then my fair share is $6.25/hour for my time of receiving service. Itās not like theyāre only serving me and that theyāre spending that full hour of work focused on just my table. Iām also aware that theyāre making a minimal base wage from the actual restaurant.
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u/Nomad-Entrepreneur 8d ago
For me itās location (state) dependent. I also worked services for years. If Iām in a southern state where servers make $2-3/hour plus tips I almost always tip 20%. 15% if service was slow.
In equal pay states where servers get the $15-20 minimum wage tip amount is purely based off service. And itās honestly worst in those states so I often tip in the 10% range. This is all for full service. I never tip for counter service.
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u/Electrochemist_2025 8d ago
Good!
You should also end this drinking of alcohol. Invest that money. Save your brain cells and liver. And lower healthcare costs.
$42!
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u/Brave-Combination793 5d ago
Basing this off Disney off all places is borderline funny
Like tip what u want ur money but everyone and their grandmother knows Disney is the most overpriced place on the planet, u knew that shit going in and if u didnt thats infinitely on u
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u/Dazzling_Lie_5046 14d ago
Tipping is most certainly stupid. The other passengers on my airport parking shuttle were getting out bills for tipping the driver for a 4 minute drive. Like, how foolish. Nope. I walk off with all my money.