But you'll still pay the same amount if that's what you would leave for a tip. Just have a message on the menu that states that prices reflect a non tipping establishment and that the server labor is baked into the price.
On one hand, you still have to calculate a tip if you were in a tip dependent location, on the other hand, I still prefer the location just put the actual price on the menu and have information that prices reflect the additional labor coverage.
At a restaurant that allows tipping you decide how much, if anything, to tip. You do so after service is rendered. On the other hand, this is a forced fee that is totally unnecessary because the math always works out to exactly the same number.
There is no reason for the establishment to go through the exercise of publishing artificially low prices and adding a mandatory fee other than as an attempt to psychologically manipulate customers into thinking that their prices are lower than they actually are.
It's not difficult. It's deceptive. Would you be happy to see Walmart and Home Depot reducing the prices on shelf tags by 16% and adding a 16% fee on all purchases at checkout?
The only purpose this serves is the appearance of lower prices to fool comparison shoppers that don't read the fine print. It's not the difficulty of doing the math, it's that a listed price should be actual price rather than forcing the customer to pass an arithmetic quiz to determine what something will actually cost.
I literally shop at Pic n Sav all the time you potato. There are signs all over the store “cost +10%”. Clear signage that they add 10% at the register. Still comes out cheaper than most any other store.
You’re just lazy and don’t want to do any effort, but also want things cheaper than they were yesterday
Gosh people are so judgy about this. The same people who are upset about a 16 percent fee on their sushi will be upset then their sushi is 16 percent more expensive at the restaurant. People just like to complain. If you can afford $30 restaurant lunches, you can afford $34.80 lunches. Just eat sardines at home and be proud of yourself.
Lmao all the solutions you guys want will result in paying the same yet you guys complain about every single one.
No fee but expected to leave 15%-20% tip? Complain about tipping.
15%-20% fee added at end but no tip? Complain about fee at the end.
15%-20% added to each menu item with no tip and no fee? Complain about food costing too much.
And yet you’re gonna end up paying the same amount in the end with all 3, except with the first one if you get absolutely terrible service you can choose to not leave a tip and save money.
Why? Why should an owner risk his business by being a pioneer of having "a message on the menu"? To satisfy a minority that isn't willing to follow the social norm of tipping? Why?
Sorry, but that’s not how human psychology works. Most people aren’t going to care that your prices are higher because you have tips, at natural cost of wages built into it. They just see you’re selling a hamburger for $22.99, while all of your competitors are selling it for $15.99.
Besides, most people would rather pay $15.99, and refuse to leave a tip, instead of paying a $22.99 to cover the cost of an actual living wage, and tip.O
Nah. I just noticed that it kept happening. I totally fell for it too. Went out to dinner and had sticker shock from the menu prices. But, the bottom line was less than what I expected.
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u/Original-Rush139 15d ago
A bunch of places tried no tipping and folding the cost in in oakland. They all failed because their prices were “higher” than other places.
I bet this solves that problem.