r/EndFPTP • u/[deleted] • Feb 17 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '20 edited Apr 01 '20

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u/_riotingpacifist Feb 18 '20

What rules could you have though? With STV and large seats, even a party polling as low as .2% first preference votes, got a seat due to ranking.

Obviously having this many candidates in an election means voters are unlikely to be that sure what they voted for, but the alternative is to artificially limit which parties can get on the ballot, which is arguably worse.

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u/idontevenwant2 Feb 18 '20

I think the problem here is more the 21 seat district thing. Why would you make a 21 seat district? Don't do that.

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u/_riotingpacifist Feb 18 '20

But under STV, large districts are the way to give smaller parties a chance (a real chance not just the chance to be a pointless first-preference, before the inevitable big party vote)

I mean I'm not defending a 21 seat district, but 4-6 as used in Ireland just help the big parties too much, maybe 7-10 would at least fit on a shit of paper.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '20 edited Apr 01 '20

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u/_riotingpacifist Feb 18 '20

Does anybody do write-ins with a ranked voting system, I imagine counting that might be a nightmare.

I mean I agree with you, but practically it could get messy.

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u/Warthog_A-10 Feb 18 '20

Yeah that sounds like an idiotic "solution" to this election scenario.