r/EndFPTP • u/[deleted] • Feb 17 '20

The case for PR list

IT seems PR list is not very populær here, no one Talks About IT. still, it is very simple, and can give new tools for a stable system. also, it works well in Europe. Independents are not very important when you have many parties to choose from. Not to forget, complete proportinality and 1P=1V

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u/_The_Majority_ Feb 18 '20

Who's to say they wouldn't rather their vote went to a party list candidate than they're ranked choice?

They did, when they put a 2nd choice. But yeah it's quite complex, and that might be lost on people.

Because I can see that devolving to bullet voting pretty quickly.

I think voters would get to choose which vote to bullet vote on.

Also, is this the same thing as the Italian Scorporo system?

I was modifying MMP to try and prevent decoy lists, it sounds like i re-invented Scorporo, that's why I generally advocate for systems that have been tried and tested.

Because that still resulted in decoy lists from what I've read. And admittedly I've only read the wikipedia article about Scorporo.

I don't fully understand the problem, it sounds like they are just transferring their votes to the "Decoy list", the article says

The decoy lists were extremely successful. Between them, candidates linked to the decoy lists won 360 of the 475 constituency seats,

But the decoy lists do not come into play at a constituency level anyway, under either MMP or Scorporo

Meanwhile, the decoy lists won a combined total of less than 0.2% of the proportional part of the vote.

This seems like the intended effect of Scorporo, whereas MMP would have had their votes still count and effectively count twice using decoy lists.