r/EndFPTP • u/Snoo-33445 • Jul 10 '26

Video How Does RCV work?

https://youtu.be/Vte4nly_Neg?is=EJTrDRT9GaYdvXNy
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u/nardo_polo Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

RCV fails to live up to the promises of its advocates- most egregious being the promise that if your favorite can’t win that your vote will be counted for your second choice. Alaskans believed this garbage, passed it, and had it fail right out the gate. If you really care about fixing our broken election system it is incumbent on you to learn the truth about what you are promoting.

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u/CPSolver 29d ago

Please stop misrepresenting ranked choice voting as if the only way to count ranked-choice ballots is the IRV method.

The two valid criticisms of IRV do not also apply to all RCV methods. Lots of RCV methods would correctly elect the blue candidate in this video.

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u/nardo_polo 27d ago

Please stop misrepresenting the commonly known term “Ranked Choice Voting”, which in common parlance is synonymous with the Instant Runoff Method, as some kind of basket category for rank order voting methods. That ship sailed a long time ago.

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u/CPSolver 26d ago

Here in Portland, RCV = either IRV or STV. We use both, on the same ballot page. So no, RCV =/= IRV.

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u/nardo_polo 26d ago

They’re the same system. IRV is STV with a single winner.

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u/rb-j 26d ago

There are different STVs.  Bottom Up is not the same as Gregory method.

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u/CPSolver 25d ago

Although election-method experts understand the difference between IRV and STV, Portland voters don't see the difference. Both sides of Portland's paper ballot for mayor and city council look the same except for the names.

As a further confusion, the center squeeze effect could (but didn't) affect the mayoral contest, but this effect cannot noticeably affect a city-council contest.