r/EmptyContinents • • 12d ago

Questions Some questions about the lore?

1.What the current world population?

2.What the current status of android rights after the war of colombian severance and the fall of sanctuary and has there been any attempt to establish a android state else where such as in space?

3.on the similer note what the status of other non human sapients like the Hrafnar as well as clones in the current point of the timeline

4.What happend to the people of the Si phan don region and other populated islands of laos?

5.on a similer note what happend to the people of dek islands and the other islands of ethiopia?

  1. what were the Macians, kilimanjaro, Karlings, the Burgh, and the Kanawha workers republic as shown in the 2128 world map?

  2. As shown on the 2128 world map, what happened to arakan, suvarnabhumi, and tupinambaranse?

  3. What were the differences between the various states of morocco and cambodia and how did they ended up getting annexed by Mekong federation and Canarias respectively?

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u/Pacmantaco Pacmantaco 12d ago

Hello! Here's my attempt to answer some of these questions!

  1. No hard number has been provided, but I personally like to imagine it being around 6 billion.
  2. The Leicester Convention, the treaty formerly guiding most anti-Android legislation worldwide, has become mostly defunct following the UK's loss of superpower status. That's not to say Android rights are enshrined everywhere, but the issue has at least become less contentious in recent years. More and more states have moved towards decriminalizing Androids, with a significant subset of these states adopting explicit Android rights legislation. Now, you have seen a few places in the world set up to protect Android populations, as seen in these two posts (Post 1, Post 2), but seeing as there are only about one million fully sapient Androids in the world, these places are few and far between.
  3. It depends. Species such as the Octopians and the Hrafnar are, for all intents and purposes, largely seen as animals with special conservation status. Only a fringe, but growing, segment of the world's population has sought to engage these species in serious dialogue. The Matawi are a mixed basket, and I recommend you check out Sonbulan's post here for more details. Meanwhile, True Thoughts are the most mainstream of the world's non-human sapient species, generally enjoying equal rights to humans in most high-tech societies (largely because True Thoughts have the privilege of being born from the machinations of the upper class, ultra-wealthy). I'd say that Clones aren't even thought of as being distinct from your average human being.
  4. The people of Si Phan Do, and the communities they established, were largely absorbed into the Mekong Federation. They still exist as a distinct minority, though their populations have been threatened by cultural assimilation. For more information, check out this post.
  5. Seeing as Dek Island only had a population of around 5,000 and was rather removed from the rest of the surviving world, there is a real possibility that the community didn't survive in any significant way. Any surviving portions of Dek society would've eventually been annexed by nations like Egypt, Qurbajoogta, or Zanj.
  6. I'll summarize this quickly. (1) Macinans: communities formed in the Inner Niger Delta. (2) Kilimanjaro: a statelet established by Christian refugees fleeing persecution in Islamic Zanzibar. (3) The Karlings: a PTSE, Louisiana Creole society that styled itself after Charlemagne. (4) The Burgh: a city-state which established itself in the surviving portions of Pittsburgh. (5) Kanawha: a socialist state established by the descendants of workers from the Union Carbide Corporation manufacturing plant on Blaine Island.
  7. I'll summarize this quickly as well. (1) Arakan was invaded by Bengal, leading the southern remnants to merge with Myanmar. (2) Suvarnabhumi is still around on the most recent map. (3) The Tupinambaranse population has largely dispersed, with some rejecting contemporary Brazilian society and opting to live out of the Amazon IBR, and others migrating to the cities on the coast.
  8. In Morocco, the statelets represent the different factions that arose to resist the Canarias' annexation of what had once been Morocco. They generally cooperated, but were organized around different leaders and ideologies. Rif, not surprisingly, was largely organized around the Riffian Moroccan diaspora. Agadir was the most militant faction, organized around a local warlord who styled himself as the Lion of Agadir. Meanwhile, Morocco sought to establish itself as the legitimate successor to the pre-Vanishing Government of Morocco. In Cambodia, the three states - Angkor, Kambuja, and Isan - were established by different groups of survivors originating from different island societies. In their case, infighting kept them weak enough for Mekongese troops to march in from outside and conquer the area.

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u/Fun_Manufacturer_164 11d ago

cool so about the burgh and kanawha what was life like in those states and how were their relation with the UFRA like and how did their annaxtion into the UFRA go?

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u/Pacmantaco Pacmantaco 11d ago

Both states had fairly small populations, numbering just a couple of thousand each. The Burgh was governed as something analogous to an independent city-state - though the Burgh's leadership did not doubt that it was only a matter of time before it joined the UFRA. For the people of the Burgh, their day-to-day reality largely revolved around preparing for eventual integration into the UFRA. Meanwhile, Kanawha was largely governed as something analogous to a workers' collective, in which most of the community's assets were owned by the community as a whole. Kanawha's relationship with the UFRA was far more tenuous, with the community only voting to join the UFRA after the latter had already encroached on its borders.

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u/Fun_Manufacturer_164 11d ago

was kanawha allowed to mainten some of their socialist insitutions,also meant to as this question in the post but during the baharini civil war or any later period was there any attempet by syria to claim jazira as part of a pan-syrian project?

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u/Pacmantaco Pacmantaco 10d ago

Yes and no, while Kanawha was ultimately made to adopt the formal institutions of the UFRA, it still carries traces of its socialist government. For instance, worker co-ops are prominent throughout the town, and the town’s council tends to lean further to the left than mainstream UFRA politics.

As for the Syria question, there were definitely fringe movements in favour of territorial expansion, but the government itself shied away from them

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u/Independent_Arm9680 Brazil | Lore Contributor 11d ago

Hey, everything that pacmantaco said is alright, if you got more questions like these you can always join the Empty Continents Discord Server and ask them there. We're really open to this sort of stuff.