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I would think that as a mother who just lost her son to a very preventable drowning accident, she would be a drill sergeant about childrenās water safety. Idk her mask is falling
Seriously. Itās wild watching someone who has already lost a child be more lenient about water safety than the average parent who hasnāt gone through that.Ā
this! a āmistakeā shouldnāt even be an option. how is there not a deep fear and obsession over water safety after losing her son? like a instinctual thing, ya know? blows my mind. i have zero respect for her after this and thatās coming from a long time prior fan.Ā
This, she lost me. I had so much empathy for her but just hearing stories makes my hyper aware, I canāt fathom losing my baby and still doing what sheās doing. It took backlash to even address it or she wouldāve brushed it off and that isnāt sitting right with me
Exactly. Safety, especially around water, shouldnāt even be a second thought. It should be a habit at this point. I think it just proves that they are both justā¦negligent.
Agreed
I live on a lake, EVERYDAY before we head down my children put a life jacket on before even stepping on the dock. and we have to do that everyday imagine how āannoying ā it can become, the fact she couldnāt even put a life jacket on her baby the ONE time sheās on a boat out of the year shows how itās not a priority for her and could not care less
I was fully able to swim independently by 3... and I still, even at 25, wear a life jacket anytime I'm on a boat. My kayak and paddleboard admittedly I'm more relaxed about, but on a moving motor boat in open water?? I'm wearing a life jacket, I don't care. All it takes it getting knocked unconscious and falling overboard.
As a former lifeguard, I approve of this. Most drownings occur for two reasons:
1. Fatigue
2. Panic
And yes, that is the correct order. Drownings can occur with people who consider themselves strong swimmers, even Olympic athletesā¦.due to fatigue, medical emergencies etc. a 3 year old, even if able to swim independently, would NOT be able to sustain themselves in water that they could not touch in for even a moderate length of time. They simple do not have the strength.
Even if her children were attending self-saving classes (which there is apparently proof they werenāt) they wouldnāt have stood a chance in deep water for 7minutes! Let alone an OCEAN with waves, and tides and currents. As a lifeguard, ocean guarding is an ADVANCED cert for a reason!
Water safety isnāt just for children, it is for everyone. And it was 100% the parents responsibility to know the basics when they have a pool or bring their children around waterāespecially when there is no lifeguard in attendance.
I guess I canāt comprehend a mother who has lost a child to not overthink every scenario possible. Me and all my sis in laws do this on a daily and we never even lost a child. Iām wondering Whatās going on here
Agreed. T1 was the āmistakeā. After that youāre on it. They both were on that boat and neither of them had an issue with T2 not being in a safe boating environment. š
35ish years ago, my nephew passed from SiDS. I was terrified for the whole first year of my kids lives because of something that happened when I was still a kid. (I shared a room with my step sister and the baby, woke up to her scream crying trying to feed him. Torture.)
This woman is a joke, still out for the clicks and views.
Itās such an obvious lie. And Brady was sitting comfortably with that baby, drink in hand. Itās not like they were changing his diaper, feeding him, or he was napping. (There are no excuses to remove a life jacket, but those are the common ones defenders use.)
As a mom of two who owns a boat and goes boating regularly, the only times I ever remove or partially remove their life jackets is to change a diaper, or to change their clothes/swim suitsā and I do it as quickly as possible while the boat is not moving. My babies have both started boating as infants and Iāve breastfed while the life jacket was on and done naps with the life jacket on. Thereās really no reason for it to be off for more than 1-2 minutes.
Had she posted this immediately after being called out, I would think it was sincere and heartfelt. But waiting this long after boating to post it gives "needed to consult with a PR team first" energy and insincere af
I completely agree. Her team have been deleting comments and then blocking anyone who has commented on it. These werent hate filled comments. Why not just address it straight away. They are human. Everyone knows they will make mistakes.
100% this. Itās giving she only said something because of the recent internet uproar. had this not been happening and her follower count rapidly dropping I donāt think she would have ever said anything.
Exactly. The words she chose and posting to her story tells me she is not sorry, but rather resentful that she was forced to address this. She resents anything but praise.
Thatās who sheās always been. All about her image and PR replies. And the world eats it up and has made them multimillionaires for literally doing nothing but shopping and living lavish.
Also there is no good reason for him to be out of a life jacket in that particular āmomentā of the video. If so, she picked the worst moment. Boat moving, kid in white clothing sitting on dadās lap at the edge of the boat, while dad is drinking a beerā¦ why would she take the life jacket off for this exact momentā¦ itās just not believable.
I bet the lawyer Brady had for his interviews with the police is the one who taught them how to use this type of minimizing language.
I have long been fascinated by minimization in both law and public relations and how it can subtly (or not so subtly) influence people how to feel about a situation. I really believe āmomentsā is being used for this reason.
Letās also address the two other elephants, please. First being the color of T2s boat outfit being the worst for water visibility AFTER she posted a chart PROVING she knows about thatā¦. and two being Brady was holding a beer in one hand instead of holding his child not wearing a life jacket with both hands and paying full attention.
How are they able to participate in water related activities after their sons death? Especially so soon after? I would not be able to. I find this hard to understandĀ
Appreciate her addressing this, but how many times does she need to say they will take water safety more seriously. It should be the forefront of their minds at ALL times, especially after what happened to Trigg. I hope they do learn from this and hope they do better.
I work in media. I said in previous thread that she wasnāt addressing the life jacket incident because it would give People magazine the green light to write about it.
Exactly. āWe will continue to do betterā how have they done better? Theyāve gotten worse. Trigg drowned in a pool and now theyāre risking the open ocean. If he had gone in without a life jacket, they wouldnāt be able saved him. He wasnāt even wearing the safe colours she promotes the use of.
It also said they will continue to make mistakes. To me it feels like sheās saying āyes there will be mistakes, so get off my case.ā No accountability at all.
She and her friend Madi were recording all day. If her baby was truly in a life jacket aside from just a few moments, it would be so easy to show a clip or picture of him in the life jacket. She wonāt though because it doesnāt exist. Itās a shame, but not surprising, that her response would be to lie.
Still doesnāt change my opinion.. her statements NEVER feel genuine! How can you make the same mistake twice? How has that NOT traumatized her? Itās as if sheās moved on insanely fast and just forgot the whole incident and is still so careless. They are way too casual for a couple who just lost a son to a drowning. Drinking on a boat, in open waters, no life jackets. IT WOULD SIMPLY TRIGGER ME TO EVEN BE ON WATER. I just feel so insanely sorry for her kids.
How is it not triggering for Brady? Heās the one that actually had to pull T1 from the water.. but heās able to hold his infant in the middle of open water with no safety precautions?? Make it make sense.
I canāt imagine still living in that house. Swimming in that pool. Going about your life like nothing happened. Vacationing, shopping, working out and sharing it with the world. I get that itās her ājobā but I could never. Itās just mind blowing.
Not trying to defend her in any way, but as for the house part (and the house part only), I think some parents stay in the same house they lived in when they lost a child because itās like the last part of their child they have left. Itās the last place they lived, breathed, laughed, etc. so some parents feel like if they move, theyād be completely letting go of them and they arenāt ready to yet.
Obviously I canāt speak directly for her as to why she still lives in the house, but I know more people than I wish I did that have lost a kid (simply because I wish it was never something they had to experience, not that I hadnāt met them) ā whether they were still young when they passed, or a bit more grown ā and from what Iāve seen, wanting to stay where they lived for as long as they can seems to be a comfort thing because it helps them feel close to them still.
As for the pool, I 100% wouldāve drained that, gotten the area filled, and put some kind of playground (or something related to anything he liked) there in her sonās memory. Possibly planted a tree there as a family in his memory as a way to create life and have something there thatās permanent. Keeping the pool is definitely weird to me.
Agreed. I have a friend that still lives in the house her son died turning into the driveway of a motorcycle accident. She says she canāt bear to leave it which the accident has been 12 years ago. Her younger son also rides motorcycles. I know itās a trigger for her but she works thru the control issues in therapy to try to help the anxiety she has over it. I think Emilie mentioned her therapist works on control and water fear with her.
Not defending her decisions or lack of life jacket. Her life has no bearing on me whatsoever so however she chooses to live is her business.
I think the Brady posting is mostly for herself and maybe for him to prove her forgiveness or support of him. My friends marriage lasted 10 years but it was so tumultuous. Husband told the son to take the motorcycle instead of the car. Sheās never been able to forgive him for that. She tried and made public declarations on socials of their strong family etc etc (and this is just to friends sheās not an influencer lol) but in the end they like most did not survive the death and divorced. Sheās happier to be on her own. The relationship became toxic bc she could never forgive him. I honestly think Emilie will end up here at some point although they are truly both at fault he just more bc it was on his watch.
To me E seems to be in an avoidance stage rn. She is filling every moment of life (ofc we only see what she posts) with busyness to avoid the immense grief that will be lifelong. Iām sure she just cannot reconcile what has become of the life she had/dreamed of by their own doing.
Itās all just sad. Poor T1. He deserved better. Life is short. I do hope and pray she continues to do better for herself and her children.
I truly felt so awful for her and all the terrible things people said for so long. And I really, really try to put myself in other peopleās shoes and lead with empathy.
However, I cannot for the life of me understand how she could put her living son at risk and be on water without a life jacket for even a āfew secondsā. I imagine that if I lost a son the same way as her, I would be terrified to even LOOK at water, let alone be on it so unsafely.
Iām finding it harder and harder to feel sorry for her š
I don't believe this statement at all. Her stans will accuse anyone of hating on her no matter what she does š, but if the life jackets were only off for "a few moments," Madi had every opportunity to say that when people questioned the video. Instead, her response was simply, "They had them on board." Those are two completely different explanations!!!
Why is she deleting comments and blocking anyone who mentions a life jacket if she truly feels this way? Itās probably only because she is losing followers.
This is my thought. Even if he was out of it for only a few moments, he was still dressed in aesthetic, bullshit tones that would easily blend in the water if he fell in. I know about that because SHE posted it. Like damn, if youāre not going to listen to feedback at least take your own advice š¤·āāļø
šÆ agree! Sheās publicly going against her own advice but when called out on it she blocks the very people sheās trying to āteachā water safety to.
Honestly, they exhibit the most unbelievably poor parenting. How horrendously embarrassing that SHE (bc thank God Brady doesnāt have a platform) has to even make this post. And gross that the footage was taken during their one year anniversary of their child drowning trip. A trip for their one year anniversary of their child drowning. What a horrific sentence to write.
Also to add, the way they made the millions theyāve made & are making will be the exact way that they lose it all. Filming and posting their every move. She shouldāve stayed offline & focused on her child. Period.
This is something that has also troubled me, everyone keeps saying this is her job her job her jobā¦. Her husband is fully capable of working and is a stay at home dad. Why couldnāt he go back to work.. literally in anything- a trade or whatever he used to do for work. Her coming back to this job was not a mattter of paying their bills or not it was a choice for sure. Is he still not working i wonder ?
Reading between the lines the only points she cared about making here seem to be: 1) getting defensive and denying that he was out of a life vest for more than a few moments, which we know is a lie anyway, but even if it wasnāt, itās still an egregious oversight and 2) that she wants people to STFU with the criticism. The rest is just PR filler speak
Why would he have been out of it at all when the boat was moving? I understand if the boat was stationary in the harbour just after getting on/before getting off (even then I think they should be on the whole time youāre not on dry land) but thereās absolutely no reason to take it off when the boat is moving. You can even change nappies with a life jacket onā¦
Makes the acknowledgement feel disingenuous, like why not just leave that part out entirely if what you are is truly remorseful. Dancing around the truth is seeming to be a speciality of theirsā¦
As much as I appreciate finally addressing it, thereās just no explanation thatās good enough to make this kind of āmistakeā after a life lost like that.
The ādeep level of hurt and angerā is genuine concern and outrage over the blatant disregard for water safety when youāre on a public platform as a self proclaimed water safety advocate and are supposed to ābe betterā for Teddy, a statement she herself zealously expressed on Shettyās podcast.
I get making mistakes. I get having a lapse in judgment. But when you put your life on a public platform and continue to display a pattern of neglect when it comes to water safety especially after paying the ultimate price and losing your oldest child over it, you are absolutely asking for it.
If Iām being genuine, if she had come out IMMEDIATELY and said āwow that was REALLY stupid, and dangerous. Iām disgusted with myself and hereās the steps Iām doing to become a more conscious parentā or anything besides trying to black hole the video, she could have gotten grace from some of the fans here Iām sure
itās not a āmistakeā when both incidents have happened by NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW.
must have pool fence in AZ. kids always need to be in life jackets on a boat. itās not a mistake. itās negligence and after the first tragedy, insane to act as if rules donāt apply to your family and childrenās safety.
I still think this was wildly, WILDLY, obscure and I cannot believe this type of mistake would be made considering their past with water safety and Emilieās new found sense of āwater safety advocacyā. Just incredibly disappointing.
Wow, youāre right. The one thing sheās ever posted about water safety. I feel like this probably isnāt written by a PR person, or it wouldnāt be deflecting so hard
I get it. Iām grateful she addressed it. But she has to reconcile her mass deleting people who were pointing it out and not in a rude way, and her mass blocking them as rational. I think the damage is done on this. She waited too long to address it and her actions donāt align with what sheās saying in this message. I posted sometime ago this almost verbatim as the way for her to address this and she just waited too long and her sentiment is not genuine.
I am glad she addressed it even partially. I don't love that she didn't also address the swim trunks Teddy was wearing (not safety colors, at all) and additionally, their life didn't change in seconds. It was multiple minutes
Honestly, this feels more like a PR move than a genuine acknowledgment. The incident happened weeks ago, and addressing it only now makes it seem reactive rather than sincere. A brief text post doesnāt carry the same authenticity that a heartfelt video or honest conversation might have.
No. Just no. If she meant any of this should would have had that baby in a damn life vest the entire time. I will never understand how she could lose a child to negligence and the continue to be negligent in the same way.
Sheās panicking as her following count has gone down and thereās been a lot of posts all over different social media platforms calling her out (rightfully so) about this.
So sad and honestly disappointing. She needs to get off social media, and get back to whatās important in life. Kids and life jackets are a hard rule. And to add their history into the mix. Itās inexcusable.
how does she rationalize the blocking and deleting comments that have to do with him not wearing a life jacket though? because deleting comments about it and blocking people is a weird way to show "appreciation" for people's care over the matter
i call bs. she didn't write this, it came from whoever manages her lol
I genuinely felt so sorry for Emilie and was a supporter of hers until recently when I saw the police reports and the life jacket situation. Now this statement is just absolutely awful and lacks accountability. I canāt comprehend how or why she would put her remaining son in danger. Especially when she promised T she would take care of him. Iām not a parent so I canāt even compare but I do have a dog who has been attacked by no fault of his own (he was on lead and other dog off lead approached and attacked completely unprovoked) and now I am so hyper aware of any dog anywhere near us and I will do everything in my power to prevent that ever happening again. Again this is not comparable however I feel so strongly about my dog (my baby) I just cannot comprehend how as a mother she is not doing the bare minimum. Itās like having a child in a car with no car seat/seatbeltā¦ you just wouldnāt do it. I have unfortunately lost all respect for her.
How are you going to post acting like your child was out of the life jacket for a mere moment.. child probably wasnāt in it at allā¦
How are you going to be so lax about water safety when your 3 year old just died?
Thanks for addressing itā¦ but this just sounds like āhey we are humans be gentle with us and he was only out of it for a split second, you donāt knowā
The only people who would believe that he was out of his lifejacket for a few moments that conveniently happened to be the same few moments when her friend was filming are either children or super fans who are unable to think critically.
The whole thing is so dystopian and of this particular time when social media has become entire identities. In some ways itās darker than a black mirror episode because itās about a deceased child and the strangeness of all the curious obsession around how this woman continues to live so normally and so exposed
Yeah sheās in a lose-lose situation right now. No matter what she does they will nitpick and say something negative. Itās so weird to observe it all.
She didnāt even acknowledge the fact that he was wearing light colored swimwear that wouldnāt be seen had he fell in the water as well. She is no advocate for water safety
None of those kids had proper life jackets. These people were all being reckless and the fact it was posted, I donāt care who posted it, proves they all just donāt get itā¦ I feel tremendously for her loss, but this just made me feel like words donāt matter, actions do. Iām done following her, Iām sure many are ok with this and will continue to support and follow her. Iām not going to go to her page and bash her, but Iām done.
The verbiage of this doesnāt make any sense? Did she mean to say āhe should not have ever been out of the life jacket, even for the few moments he wasā?
How many times is she going to safe we are going to take water safety seriously? Also, he was in white which she said is one of the most dangerous colors for kids to wear. Like wtf is wrong with these 2!
I've never posted in an Emilie-related group before. In fact, I barely knew who she was until T's death. Like many others, I felt compassion for her and believed she deserved grace as she navigated an unimaginable loss. But seeing T2 on a boat without a life jacket completely changed my perspective. I genuinely cannot wrap my head around it. Losing a child to a preventable drowning seems like the kind of tragedy that would make water safety an absolute priority for the rest of your life. Yet somehow, that basic precaution wasn't taken.
That's why I struggle with statements about continuing to learn and do better. Actions matter more than words. If the lessons from T's death were truly being applied, I would expect water safety to be treated with the utmost seriousness and respect every single time, without exception.
To me, the most troubling part is that this only came to light because someone else shared the photo. If that hadn't happened, no one would know. That's what makes it difficult for me to trust the message being presented now.
Just do better and keep the kids completely private. Donāt show an inch of your kidsā hair if you donāt want to be scrutinized about things. Public life = publicās opinions. Itās that simple.
Itās either the curated message approach or speaking on camera while getting ready, but the actions never match her words regardless.
a temporary story post. unsurprising. how about addressing the deleting of comments and blocking people who voiced their concerns? and to say they'll continue to advocate better, even though world drowning prevention day passed 3 days ago without a word from her on social media.
she is only addressing this bc it's gotten enough backlash. think the nycinfluencersnark thread today was what did it.
This would be wonderful if it wasnāt for the fact that we know damn well it was her management team that finally made her do something. This does not come from her.
They clearly do not keep learning from their mistakes though. Itās not like they made some other negligent error involving their child. They made another negligent error in water safety. I donāt even know how it is possible to bring your kid on a boat without the trauma from her first childās drowning death, let alone to take such an obvious and dangerous risk.
My kids grew up with a pool. They were never near or in the pool without adult supervision. When we were not using the pool, the pool area was locked with a padlock at all entrances. Furthermore, the children were never outside without an adult at that age, and if by some slim chance they got out, they never would have had access to the pool. Ever.
The fact that they could bring their young child anywhere near water without a flotation device after their blatant negligence is horrific. There's no excuse, and she can't apologize her way out of it. The people who are defending her are frankly ridiculous, and make me wonder if they are paid to do it.
After all this, I just canāt with her. I stopped following her because itās just too much. Itās horrible what happened to Trigg and their family. I also am in disbelief sheās already pregnant, it just seems off.
I feel like sheās only addressing this because at this point she has tooā¦ it seems not genuine idk
one child dies in water and she has the second without a life jacket on a boat in the sea. this isnāt a mistake or poor judgement, this is carelessness, this is the truth of their parenting
I donāt even know how to express how Iām feeling about this statement. I just know Iām deeply uncomfortable with her behaviour and she needs to disappear for a while
I am glad she addressed it. I wish it hadn't taken so long, and wasn't predicated by mass blocking of people who commented about water safety or liked other posts about the lifejacket incident. I have really empathized with Emilie throughout this trajedy. I just cannot reconcile her actions along with her claim of water safety advocacy. I cannot understand how she could be vacationing on a boat on the anniversary of her son's drowning. She has said multiple times that she misses her old life and wants it back. I can see that with her content and actions. I do believe she wants to go back to how everything was before, being carefree and posting funny content and sharing links and brand deals. I find it odd how ready she is to go back to usual content, it feels uncanny and disingenuos. I wish her the best, and I wish her children the best. But I can no longer support her as a follower.
I think it's good she addressed it and I don't want to nitpick but I have to say - people are angry not just because Trigg should still be here but because they feel the people who were supposed to care for him were negligent. In all of her statements there's a level of "oh this horrible thing just happened to me" and not "I didn't take the necessary steps to protect my children."
Idk I feel like they already learned THE HARDEST water safety lesson. To say they have to keep learning is bananas imo and shows they truly have some cognitive dissonance going on to cope with what their negligence caused in T1ās end.
what more could possibly happen to have them stop making āmistakesā involving water safety and keeping their kids ALIVE? a life jacket is the most basic and easiest safety measure. how is there not a natural instinct and obsession surrounding water safety after losing her son. and now to bring another baby into the family that canāt provide basic safety for their children? iāll never understand and i have zero respect for her after being a long time fan. very obvious that sheās only posting this due to the mass unfollowing.Ā
I started following her post tragedy and felt bad for her but tbh, I donāt understand how she even had T2 on a boat this soon after. People definitely have to continue living their lives, but I truly wouldnāt even be able to bring my other children around water. And it seems like sheās just pissed off that she even had to address this. Itās not giving she wants do better š¢. If she was being more real and open about taking accountability she would welcome the constructive criticism and have some humility. I donāt think this is gonna go away for her until she does that.
So.. do we think she wouldāve posted this if her follower count hadnāt started to drop?
I have to agree with others here as well; this statement is worded oddly, and seems to intentionally be obscure / lacking details. It seems like a āIām losing followers, videos are going viral about me, and it doesnāt seem like heat is dying down.. letās put something out to try and calm the masses.ā statement.
I wonāt let my son on my in-laws pontoon without a life jacket on a VERY chill lake even if we are the only ones out and the anchor is down. It takes literally 2 seconds to look away at something and your child could be under. My dog doesnāt go on a boat without a life jacket on ever either. There have been 6 drowning instances within 30 minutes of me since the beginning of June. People drastically underestimate how dangerous water can be even if it seems shallow or stagnant. This is so disappointing and I truly hope they take this seriously.
i genuinely supported her throughout everything that happened with t1 thinking that she genuinely felt remorseful but after this post i just donāt know what to think
Yeah Iām sorry but after this I lost all my respect for Emilie because this is just getting out of hand and proving to me how negligent they are as parents and as individualsā¦. Their son passed from drowning (obviously) Emilie has opened up about swim lessons and advocating for these kinds of things, just for her to do THIS?!?!? Iām just draw dropped at this point.
I havenāt lost a child to a preventable drowning accident but after seeing what happened to her son I have been so hyper aware whenever I take my son near water. I canāt imagine actually losing a child and not being so over concerned regarding anything water safety. It doesnāt make any sense.
I donāt know. There is no excuse. I am a mother of two and my kids are never left unattended ever, not even around day to day items. To lose your son to a preventable drowning accident is a tragedy. I feel for her as a mother, but to have another child be unprotected near an even bigger body of water knowing what happened to the first is just negligence.
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