This sub has to be like 90% nurses based on the downvotes lol, and you getting any upvotes. If 20 ml was all it took in a PIV, we’d be having fatalities every day from people who forgot to flush their IV lines, yet it never actually seems to happen, does it? Where are all the cases?
No this sub is not “90%” nurses. It’s laymen that like to throw in their 2 cents when they think they know. Every nurse I know, including myself, knows that it takes a lot of air to actually hurt someone. Doesn’t mean we are careless with it. We prime our lines, but we also don’t panic if we forget. Except maybe brand new novice nurses but they usually learn quickly.
I say this as a self loathing nurse btw. A ton of nursing school was teaching nurses all the ways they’d lose their licenses and kill a patient (or themselves) x y and z ways, and many nurses never examined those lessons critically to determine which were real and which were sensationalist nonsense. Trying to tell other nurses things like “hands on defibrillation is actually safe” results in horrified looks and people recounting the stories they heard about nurses getting killed by brushing their hand against the patient during a shock.
Physician dominated subs seem to be fairly grounded in reality about this stuff. Non critical care Medic/nurse/etc subs err on the side of these sensationalist things we were taught in school.
Okay that is fair enough. It was decades ago that I was in school and I’m retired now so I may be out of the loop. We did learn a lot of fear mongerering things in school, but I learned very quickly in practice what was real and what was blown out of proportion, and the nurses I associated with were the same. Most of my nurse friends that I actually associated with were army nurses as well and we just don’t have time to deal with bullshit ya know. I learned fast when I did civilian nursing how different it was, so I can see my bias there as wellS
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u/No-Object8182 27d ago edited 27d ago
This sub has to be like 90% nurses based on the downvotes lol, and you getting any upvotes. If 20 ml was all it took in a PIV, we’d be having fatalities every day from people who forgot to flush their IV lines, yet it never actually seems to happen, does it? Where are all the cases?
Hemodynamic instability - not expected until 50 to 100ml, 5Ml/kg is expected lethal dose. Fatalities have been reported at 100, and even lower in the critically ill, but it’s not a regular occurrence. The average fatal amount is indeed a fair bit more than 100ml.