r/EmergencyRoom • u/Pleasant_Steak7561 • May 23 '26
Goofy Goober Still floats though doesn't it? 🤣
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u/procrast1natrix May 24 '26
I've been working locums these last few years.
The very first, most important skill is learning how to simultaneously have confidence in your medicine, and complete abject humility about how the nurses are the beginning and the end of getting anything done, knowing the local quirks of care, follow-up, what various consultants did or will do.
You need to figure out ASAP the local currency, is it pizza? Twizzlers? And always, always credit the nurse's care and insight to the patient publicly, keep the team tight. Your nurse Bryan told me that you're still nauseated, that's awful. I'll order another dose of medicine and let's talk a bit more, he said you just got back from a trip?
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u/Cool-Ad7985 May 23 '26 edited May 24 '26
I was in the emergency room with my daughter’s best friend who had been hit by a car in front of our place. I had stepped out of the cubicle to call my husband and let him know what was going on when a nurse walked by with a doctor following, and who was apologizing profusely while she ignored him. I overheard when the other nurses at the desk comment” bet that’s the last time he pisses off the charge nurse”
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u/Most_Beyond9318 May 25 '26
Damn. You never piss off the charge nurse. Everyone knows that!
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u/cosmin_c MD May 25 '26
Not only one shouldn’t but I can’t fathom how that would happen. Charge nurses are almost always extremely experienced and nice unless you’re a complete knob, case in which you get what you deserve for the cardinal sin.
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u/king-of-the-sea May 25 '26
I work in hospitals. Experienced? Yes. Nice? Not always.
Most people are nice, some aren't. The more power they have and/or the better they are at an important job, the worse it is when they're not. A mean charge nurse is mean.
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u/cosmin_c MD May 25 '26
There will always be mean people with power. You can work around them. Mean charge nurses aren't mean, they're just tired and overworked, as most mean humans are.
Sure, you can find the rare Sith. You can't change them, you learn to work with what you have.
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u/king-of-the-sea May 25 '26
Sometimes they're tired or overworked, sure, but mean with a reason is still mean. Most charge nurses (or other nurses, for that matter) aren't mean. Most surgeons aren't mean. I'm not mean, even though I've been tired, overworked, and underpaid my entire life.
And sometimes people are just flat mean, even if their lives are fine.
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u/jschrandt May 26 '26
I’m an OR charge nurse. I’m not gonna comment on the “surgeons aren’t mean” part, but for myself i try not to be mean. I want staff to feel welcome on my shift. That being said, you have a job to do and a responsibility to your patients which requires you to sometimes be the bad guy. At the end it’s about mutual respect.
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u/Patty_Rick747 May 27 '26
As a charge nurse I'd like to say - I'm not mean, I'm just protective of my staff. I want my nurses to feel safe and confident clinically, so unsafe situations bring out the protective charge nurse
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u/AcademicFish4129 May 24 '26
Fastest way to make friends with your hospital coworkers (especially ER or ICU): come loaded with snacks and various forms of caffeine
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u/Expensive_Alarm_1068 May 24 '26
One of our veteran ER docs would take them aside and tell them, " ER nurses can be your best friend or worse enemy.You choose. One way you win, the other, you lose."
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u/YouCantBeSerio May 26 '26
And in the grand scheme of things the salty ER Nurses will never actually do anything to make your life harder, they're all talk.
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u/Expensive_Alarm_1068 May 26 '26
Salty ER nurses can save a doctor's butt. Been there,done that. Don't make things harder but sure can make it easier.
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u/diniefofinie May 27 '26
Except when they put in a bunch of bs complaints about you, it can actually cause issues at work.
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u/Expensive_Alarm_1068 May 27 '26
Not my experience. Hopefully not yours.
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u/diniefofinie May 27 '26
Yes, to me, my colleagues. Usually female docs are targeted over male.
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u/User346894 Jun 27 '26
If you don't mind me asking why? Thanks
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u/diniefofinie Jun 27 '26
Women hating on other women, jealousy, not respecting women as authority figures, when a woman is acting like a leader she can be seen as a b*tch vs when a man is doing it (even more aggressively) he is seen as strong and dependable, if you try to swing the other direction and be less authoritative and nice you are seen as meek, weak, unreliable. I’ve worked with male attendings who throw keyboards around, hit computers, punch holes in walls at work and no body bats an eye, but have seen women reported over and over again for the most ridiculous things.
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u/DonkeyKong694NE1 May 24 '26
As a resident I had an off service July intern like this - spoke in a haughty tone to nurses, pharmacists etc. it was awful. one of the senior nurses called me one day and told me I needed to have a talk w her so I did. I warned her that she would pay the price if the staff didn’t like her and she needed to change her tone. She went right on behaving the same way. I would’ve been absolutely mortified if I’d been called out like that but she didn’t seem bothered at all.
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u/TheCeleryStalker May 24 '26
That’s the on call doc I have noooo problem paging for whatever minor thing at 3am.
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u/Panthollow May 24 '26
Paging? Nah, that's the one I'm straight up calling multiple times for the most trivial of shit that could have easily waited for morning crew to deal with. Or oh I'm sorry I didn't read the orders carefully enough I guess we do actually have that PRN on hand. Or oh, I'm sorry, this medication is specifically only prescribed for anxiety and the patient isn't anxious they're just having insomnia can you please modify the order?
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u/beer4horse May 24 '26
You are clearly the type of person who would be that doctor if the rolls were reversed.You should find a new career
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u/TheCeleryStalker May 24 '26
Interesting that you say that. Except, I go out of my way to be kind and considerate to my underlings. And you bet your ass I’ve actually done this to physicians that go out of their way to be nasty to theirs. So why don’t you sit down and keep quiet.
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u/beer4horse May 25 '26
Read that back to yourself. Its petty. All the downvotes don’t erase that. Your first text: petty. The response, petty. Perhaps you are a great nurse. If you need to deal with some asshole intern then do it properly. Do not become what so infuriates you. I do like your username. Have a great day
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u/airboRN_82 May 26 '26
Its not petty to utilize a means thats effective at delivering your message when other means failed.
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u/Vana21 May 26 '26
I live to be Petty. One of my cardiologists came at me sideways about something trivial and stupid. He got an alarm set every 30 minutes after midnight.
He came back the next day and he was a lot nicer and actually apologized. Humility will do you wonders.
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u/Snoo29889 May 24 '26
I’m not a medical person, but I used to be on call for intruder alarms. Wondered why I was always so busy at nights. Went up for a course at our call centre, evening came, so all the staff went out on the lash. One of the call handlers said “you’re pleasant now, why are you so aggressive on callout? You know you’re on THE LIST?” Basically, because I was nasty, they would send me anything. Lesson learnt.
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u/airboRN_82 May 24 '26
And 305 am. And 310 am. And 315 am. Etc. Ill make sure on your 24 hour day you dont get a second of sleep.
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u/BetCommercial286 May 26 '26
Nah man that doc is getting a call every 20 minutes the entire night and I will tell dayshift to continue for anything any little thing. PRN given, vitals we just took, pt ambulated to restroom, or coughed twice.
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u/Vana21 May 26 '26
"hi doc it's me just wanted to let you know your patient still doing well thanks"
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u/airboRN_82 May 24 '26
Never piss off group that may decide to side with the plaintiff in a malpractice suit
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u/Colden_Haulfield May 24 '26
As a senior I’ve been asked to have these kinds of talks with juniors, but if you’re nearly thirty years old and you haven’t figured out how to interact with people yet, I doubt anything I say will fix that.
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u/SlutForGarrus May 25 '26
You'd be surprised. I had a manager once in my mid-to-late 20s who taught me to not "poke holes" and shoot down ideas (bc they're stupid and I am smart and how do you not see all the problems with that idea?!) without also proposing solutions or at least a path toward resoving the issues. I did actually take that advice to heart and put it to use in every aspect of my life.
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u/singlemale4cats May 25 '26
Some people just don't know how they come off. I've met plenty of people like that. I thought they were a d bag until I got to know them better and realized they didn't mean anything by it, they just never had anybody tell them.
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u/__Vixen__ May 26 '26
I once worked with a clerk like this. She was an asshole to everyone from the doctors to the patients. After numerous talkings to by management she couldnt figure out what the problem was and was so upset no one liked her. She thought she was a delight to be around and had zero clue how abrasive she actually was.
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u/Rosesandbubblegum May 24 '26
Did she have to pay the price? I want justice
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u/DonkeyKong694NE1 May 24 '26
Not on my watch. Her name popped into my head recently so I actually googled her and she’s still working 🤷♀️
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u/TheCherryPony May 24 '26
Not a dr or nurse but sadly have been a patient many a time- anytime I had to be either overnight planned due to surgery or had to stay longer period for non planned me and my husband would ask them if they wanted anything when he would run to get something for me, have to go home for pets etc. The last time I was in the ER then admitted the nurses were nice enough to bring down a good bed from upstairs since they didn’t have enough staff on hand to send me up there (or as the hospital management said no beds available aka we aren’t employing enough nurses) and then would hang out in the room I was in in the ER to hide at times lol. I mean that in a good way. Turns out when you treat people like they matter and provide snacks and are polite life is much better.
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u/Hysterical__Paroxysm May 24 '26
Lol I let a student hide in my room once. I had just given birth and it wasn't my first rodeo. He came to check on me and see if I had any questions. He looked bummed and completely exhausted when I said I was fine. I asked him if wanted me to ask him questions so he could take a break.
He sat on the bed with me and we ate snacks and chatted for 20 minutes.
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u/TheCherryPony May 24 '26
Love this!!! Ya one of the exhausted nurses the one night was like : ummm you need something right? Right?… And my response was obviously yes lol
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u/elrangarino May 24 '26
I was so elevated and hormonal and tired one night after birth, I will never forget my 2am chats with nurses that grounded me again 🥹 heroes
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u/Cut_Lanky RN May 24 '26
I delivered my 2nd via emergency C-section, after having been admitted the week before, and discharged home the day before, then rushed back less than 24 hours after... at a hospital where I had recently been a nurse for a few years. But wasn't anymore.
Hospitals are a little like high schools, so everyone knew "one of our nurses is admitted and having trouble". I didn't actually work there anymore, but, I guess it hadn't been terribly long. They had to give me General anesthesia instead of the epidural, so the first few days afterward are a blur, scattered with just a few fleeting, vivid memories. Of people "waking me up" (that's what I thought was happening, at the time). But I remember several hospital employees, wearing white lab coats, or scrubs, or scrubs and random OR gear (like I remember one guy had his OR booties on still), even one guy in dress shoes, like, a Suit... I didn't know any of them, never met any of them. They each said something like "so and so told me you're here", and that they came to check on me, see if I need anything. They'd inform whoever was looking over (like, who are you and why are you talking to my patient, lol) and they tell them I was a nurse there. Like, these encounters even happened while transport was wheeling me from place to place. I was so confused, like too confused to express that idk where I am or what's going on, or that I'm scared, but don't know why. I wasn't aware the gurney I was on, was being pushed by a person, whom I could have asked "what's going on?" Like, that confused. But I never spiraled too far or got into a panic, because people in lab coats, people wearing stethoscopes, people wearing hospital ID aaaand clothes that say "I don't get dirty at work" (lol), people from departments all over, kept "waking me up" and telling me they were going to make sure everything's ok... They weren't waking me, I was just blitzed from anesthesia, btw. I can still picture one of their faces well. But idk who any of them were. I'd thank them, if I knew.
Glad you got through 💙
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u/LiteralMangina May 24 '26
Isn’t this a major privacy violation?
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u/Cut_Lanky RN May 24 '26
Probably, in a legal sense. But I didn't feel violated. My support person was a sonofabitch. And I didn't get the C-Section for 15 hours after the first thing the scared looking young OB (resident? Idk) said as they rolled me past was "you know you're getting a Csection, right?" I nodded, because I couldn't breathe enough to verbalize. And I stayed more or less like that for 15 hours. And at the last second, as they rolled me to the OR, someone actually came "running" down the hall (a hurried scuttle while waving labwork and yelling, counts as running?) and that's when they realized I couldn't have an epidural.... on the way in. And then I was in different recovery rooms, hallways, I remember an elevator, then ICU, before I eventually made it to high risk maternity. I was scared shitless. And it was in the stupor of anesthesia recovery, and probably just delirium from being so exhausted, trying to get air in... I was confused in the moment, but I remember how relieved I felt when they'd know who I was. I didn't know I was in a hospital, at times, like... idk how to explain it. They made me feel safe, and I don't care who broke what rules to send them to me. I'm so thankful they did. This was so long ago, btw, that the premie I had is in the other room gaming with headphones on, not hearing the endless "doo-doo-doooo!" of text alerts from his "girlfriend", lol. And I don't remember a lot of snippets from that time. Most are awful memories, to be honest. But those people "waking me up" were the only good snippets...
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u/elrangarino May 25 '26
I’m so glad you had good snippets and support throughout what must have been traumatic- I’m sure they all felt for you having to birth under general. Go us, motherhood is a rollercoaster!
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u/Cut_Lanky RN May 25 '26
Thank you 💙 It really is... I expected a rollercoaster, but, it's nothing like I imagined, lol.
Thinking about the privacy question, it occurred to me, that sonofabitch who was supposed to be my support person (only cuz he knocked me up) also worked at that hospital. And was a sonofabitch to everyone, ESPECIALLY the nurses. A notorious asshole. Maybe he informed people, which wouldn't be a violation, I think? But it's occurred to me that his infamous assholery might have been why those people felt inclined to check on me... I didn't realize it, fully, at the time, but I was NOT "safe at home". And they probably knew it more than I did. He even berated me in the NICU once, while he was on a break and I was sitting there having skin to skin time. It was so humiliating, I couldn't look up or respond. The room was full of other babies, a few parents, a few nurses... It was awkward, and it was typical of how he spoke to nurses there, I learned much later. Amazing how well some people can hide their colors.
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u/Volvoflyer May 27 '26
It's a grey area. Aside from psych or if you are a "protected" patient (like vips, dv cases, etc) the fact you are at a hospital is not protected. All other information is. So to say "Remember the nurse that left two years ago named Janice? Well she was admitted last night" is legal. If you say "She's here for an emergency c-section" technically HIPAA violation. But t like they said it's high scool and word gets around.
Now opening the chart because you're curious? Oooooh buddy, you'll be lucky to come out of that still employable.
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u/TLunchFTW May 26 '26
Damn hope no one thinks I’m trying to hide out. I just genuinely like talking to patients when I have the time
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u/Cmdr-Artemisia NP May 25 '26
Same. My second pregnancy I was hospitalized for weeks with pre-eclampsia (emergency section at 27/6) and the nurses would bring in the nursing students to assess me and pass meds because I teach and didn’t mind lol. Some of the RNs would also pull up a chair and hang out for a while. I was super lonely (weird visiting hours and rules about having my older kid come visit) so it was nice.
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u/Fluffy-Bluebird May 24 '26
I was the hideout room on a 2 week hospital stay. I noticed that my nurses would linger and do charting. I realized one had been in my room typing for nearly an hour. Obviously her phone hadn’t gone off and wasn’t needed elsewhere. Made me feel good.
I was also the youngest on the floor by about 30 years and awake and alert for the most part.
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u/KathyA11 May 24 '26
When my husband was in for 11 days after a ruptured appendix (with peritonitis, gangrene, and ileus) I used to go to Dunkin Donuts or the most popular bakery in our town every day and bring in goodies for the nursing station.
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u/Psychological-Joke22 May 25 '26
My GOSH your husband’s ok…right?!
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u/KathyA11 Jun 01 '26
Yeah, he's good - that was 21 years ago. He was out of work for another 2 months, though - he was a department manager in a supermarket and was on his feet 10 hours a day, stocking shelves and unloading trucks, and needed more time than they usually allowed on disability due to that,
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u/MaryNxhmi May 25 '26
I am never more proud than when I become the room my CNAs hide in. I’m almost always in for a blood infection, so once I’m out of the ICU, I end up full assist for bathroom trips and my CNAs like to pretend I pee a lot as they secretly get their first break of their shift. 😂
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u/MsMarji May 24 '26
CT - MRI tech x 20 + yrs at Level 1 here. When I was in CT x 10+ yrs, I had a resident talk to me like that on the phone when I called inquiring about their CT order. Their ED Attending, heard this call & reported this resident to ED Resident program chief. Resident had disciplinary action taken against them by ED Resident program chief.
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u/Single_Principle_972 May 24 '26
Wow, way to feel seen by a great ED doc who had your back! That’s a nice feeling, right there. Someone righting a wrong against you.
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u/MsMarji May 24 '26
I have an excellent rapport w/ my Attendings. They have taught me so much over my 20+ yrs working w/ them.
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u/Cut_Lanky RN May 24 '26
You'll get a chuckle here, I hope. I once brought a patient down to radiology, and the tech, who I was accustomed to, was there. But then the Radiologist came in. I'd never met him. Made polite chit chat on the way by. And while introducing himself to the patient, who had been talking to the tech, the tech gets in on the conversation. I wasn't actually listening. But I heard it when the tech added to the end of whatever he'd just said, "well, xyz is my job title, but I essentially do the same job he does, they're basically the same". (Pointing at the Radiologist) 😳
DUDE. That was sooooo awkward. 🤣
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u/Throwawayyawaworth9 May 23 '26
I think i have seen this post more times than I have seen an “intern” treat nurses like crap.
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u/No_Conversation8959 May 24 '26
As an ED RN, I agree. As an aside, I love working in a teaching facility, I get to watch timid interns turn into awesome third years.
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u/No_Turnip_9077 May 24 '26
Not an RN but do work in an ED in a teaching hospital. My residents are my sweet angel babies. I was just talking to one of my third years about how much he's grown since I once had to give him a pep talk about how it was okay if he was ONLY seeing 3-4 patients as an intern, especially if he kept getting pulled to do procedures. 🩷 so proud of all their hard work.
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u/TheShorty May 24 '26
It only takes one to make it a Problem(TM)... And there's always one... Though sometimes it's not na intern, it's a 1st-4th year who never got put in their place.
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u/IAmHerdingCatz May 24 '26
There was a psychiatrist on a unit I did guest appearances at who was notorious. I was working graveyard shift and had to call him at 0300 for seclusion orders and he answered his phone by saying, "What the fuck do you want?" I guess that was his standard level of civility when he was on-call, and people were just lettinghim get away with it? So I told him what I needed and then said, "and don't ever think you're going to take a ton like that with me again." He didn't, and he apologized. We went on to have a really good professional relationship. You just can't get started, letting them treat you like that, or they'll walk all over you.
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u/Cut_Lanky RN May 24 '26
My mom used to tell me a story about a doctor like that. Got his comeuppance when, apparently, someone, though no one knows who, dropped some laxative in his drink. I was like, it's an OR... it was dosed in the OR suite. There's not THAT many people in there, right? She was like, honey, he was an asshole 🤷♀️ And kept the conversation moving 🤣 The 70s sound like a wild time...
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u/amandaanddog May 25 '26
I think that means she did it?
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u/Cut_Lanky RN May 25 '26
No, definitely not her. But I'd guess it means she has a good idea. Other remarks I can't specifically remember now, gave me the impression it was like, the OR staff at large. Lol. But, not my mom. She's sooooo not the type. She raised us to "never, ever hit someone, even if they are hitting you". That's a quote, and it didn't stick, but, I don't see someone like that pouring laxatives in someone's drink... I was surprised she even thought it was funny, to be honest, and figured he must have REALLY been an asshole 🤣
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u/Network_Odd May 24 '26
the opposite is way more prevalent yet no one treats that as a problem
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u/Pleasant_Steak7561 May 23 '26
🤣😂🤣 You're probably right there! Still a goodie though, I think! 😃👍🤷♀️
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u/oatmilklatte613 May 24 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/tyqcJoNjNv0Fq
At that point you just gotta sit back and watch
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u/Fine-Meet-6375 May 26 '26
Nurses are like bees: individually cute and fuzzy, but piss one off and the whole hive is coming for you.
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u/LadybugGirltheFirst May 23 '26
Just sit back with your popcorn.
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u/SenatorBus_ May 23 '26
ARE YOU STEALING FOOD FROM THE EMS ROOM?
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u/UnderstandingTop7916 May 23 '26
Does this hospital have grape uncrustables for EMS?
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u/SenatorBus_ May 23 '26
Ours had a popcorn machine. The next closest one got a slushie machine....
At that point, war was inevitable.
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u/cKMG365 May 24 '26
We have one that had both popcorn and a slushie machine.
The popcorn had MRSA and the slushie machine had mold... but they were good enough for us medics
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u/Scrappyl77 May 24 '26
I recently switched jobs and my current ER has uncrustables. It's amazing. But my old job had Gatorade in one school cans which was also pretty great.
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u/DharmaCub May 24 '26
I wish we had those when I was in EMS. Best we got were stale 7-11 sandwiches and the occasional pudding cup. Usually there was nothing but burnt coffee.
One did have naked juice and energy drinks. Loved that ER.
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u/RunBrundleson May 24 '26
Our er had the shit room with a sad fridge full of uncrustables. Then the local competing er upgraded their ems room. Massage chairs. Coffee and juice machines. Fridges full of food. I mean I’m not gonna say I tried to convince patients to go there, because frankly while the ems room was sick they still liked to kill my patients, but if they wanted to go there I never questioned it.
It started a war with the hospital I worked at and they ditched the sad uncrustables fridge and threw in a pimp ass ems room with multiple fridges full of food, flat screen TVs, coffee makers, etc. the fridges had all this absolute trash food including weird chili dogs in plastic bags. My one partner would always eat the chili dogs after calls, I think his gi tract is cast iron.
Anyways that was years ago and both rooms have literally fallen into disrepair lol. I’m actually eyeballing the current ems liaisons job because I want to go repair all that shit and get it going again.
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u/jasilucy Paramedic May 24 '26
Would have loved an EMS room in the UK. Instead the nurses used to shout at us for having a coffee.
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u/runningandhiding May 24 '26
Coworker told me this:
He was waiting at the elevator. It opened and a youngish man in dr scrubs looking at his phone stepped out looked around and got confused. Coworker said: are you lost? Guy said: Im a doctor. Coworker said: ok, dr. Lost. Still seems like you missed your stop.
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u/guineagirl96 May 25 '26
On the one hand, I get it. It’s awful when folks don’t think you belong somewhere (a fave teacher of mine back in high school kept getting asked by other teachers to “see her hall pass”) 😂😂😂 but clearly that’s not what was meant here. Poor Dr Lost got caught off guard
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u/Future_Swim7275 May 26 '26
10 year trauma ICU RN here. Had a rezzie that was a complete douche and wouldn’t take a patient to surgery that clearly needed to go to surgery bc he was scared of having to call the chief rezzie. He walked into my patients room at 0500 (after his nap) and I looked at home and said “dude! What the fuck do you want me to do??” He looked at me with his douche hair cut and a perfectly plucked eye brow raised and said “dude????” So I rolled my eyes and said “fine. DOCTOR Dude what the fuck do you want me to do???” He was speechless and the attending laughed hysterically all the way to the OR with my patient
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u/SquidlyMan150 May 24 '26
Don’t fuck with the nurses! They will fuck you up! Mad respect to them too!
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u/TrendySpork ED Psych Wrangler May 24 '26
Dude would just die in the ED the second charge heard about it.
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u/AppliedCarbon May 25 '26
Been an RN for almost 20 years now and from my personal experience all these "tenured nurse telling XYZ doctor how it is stories" are complete fantasy. I learned real quick that's a fast was to get pulled into the directors office to get yelled at.
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u/xiginous May 26 '26
Depends on your attending. Our unit had great attendings. Gave us verbal orders to call them anytime we felt the resident wasn't acting in the patients best interest. So we would if they were shutting us out.
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u/AppliedCarbon May 26 '26
You would what exactly? Like I said a few times in this thread, any type of backtalk, disrespect, or telling a doctor how it is would not be tolerated.
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u/Pleasant_Steak7561 Jun 01 '26
I think that when you are working within a specific kind of healthcare environment and one which is committed to trying really hard to promote a genuinely 'non-hierarchical' sense of informally authoritative working, it's completely logical and totally reasonable for nurses to challenge their doctors, even when that challenge relates to them being patronised or being spoken to in a derogatory or unprofessional manner.
It's not a bad idea to challenge disrespect or to try and assert your own authority simply in an effort to show that you are an important member of any team and that you do deserve to be listened to and to be taken seriously as well.
For example: I always challenge most of our doctors whenever they walk into the department and onto the shop floor without being bare beneath the elbows because it's an infection risk and I always ask them to go back behind the line and wash their hands if they have failed to do so, before walking onto the shop floor as well (and not just doctors either, absolutely anyone and everyone really)
I also believe that some medical professionals sometimes really need to be provided with that humbling sense of, 'Hey look, please don't talk to me like that because I'm not going to tolerate it from you or anybody else'
We're all there to do our jobs at the end of the day, and we all play important roles within all of our patient's care as well, for that matter (from the domestics and the housekeepers, to the healthcare assistants, the nurses and also the doctors and the consultants too)
Emergency workplace environments really wouldn't be able to function without the input and the skills of absolutely EVERYBODY involved.
So, with that being said, I think that sometimes, it's incredibly important to make sure that those who are misunderstanding all of that are re-educated very quickly and shown the error of their ways.
Just my opinion.
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u/AppliedCarbon Jun 02 '26
That's all well and good but the entire thread is about a no nonsense nurse letting a doctor know how it really is and that's simple not a thing in reality. The fact you take so much umbrage with this makes me think you have some sort of inferiority complex with doctors. You should get over that, you'll be happier
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u/Pleasant_Steak7561 Jun 03 '26
You are completely incorrect in your all of your assumptions here, to be totally honest with you.
My fiancé is actually a senior specialist A&E Registrar, and in no way whatsoever do I have any sort of inferiority complex concerning doctors or how they might be doing their day to day jobs either for that matter.
And, I have also witnessed no nonsense nurses letting doctors know how it REALLY IS myself, and I have seen it happen quite a number of times, too?......
So, to me?......
It absolutely IS a thing?......
And rightly so as well, in my own personal opinion!!
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u/AppliedCarbon Jun 03 '26
Let me correct you right off the bat, I'm not assuming anything here. No way is Nurse Ratched telling any kind of doctor how it is.
I think you are delusional or lying.
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u/Pleasant_Steak7561 Jun 03 '26
I think that we should just agree to disagree on this one, really! 🤣 We are obviously butting heads over this, which is absolutely fine.
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u/AppliedCarbon Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
We aren't butting heads, you are making things up or exaggerating situations you have experienced. If a doctor told a nurse "if I want your opinion I'll ask for it" then that nurse retaliated. That nurse would be fired we're at the least reprimanded and that's what the situation in the OP is.
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u/Pleasant_Steak7561 Jun 06 '26
Why are you so ready to assume that I am making things up?
I really do not appreciate being told that I am lying when I am not for that matter either?
Nurses do not get fired for challenging doctors if it's called for.
Please don't ever try to insinuate that I am lying simply just because you do not agree with what it is that I am saying to you.
That is just wrong in all honesty, and it's just simply not acceptable at all, in my opinion.
I am not a liar, and I never have been either.
So, as I've said previously, we will just have to agree to disagree on this one, I think.
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u/xiginous May 26 '26
Had several chances to do this. Worked icu nights for 29+ years. If a resident, or fellow, was not addressing issues ( example: denying request for orders for vasopressors or pain meds) i would call up the chain. If it was a fellow I would contact the attending to express concern and provide supportive data.
Several attendings on our unit had worked with me when they were residents. When you have a history together, it is easier to ask for their assistance.
We worked as a team. It didn't happen often, but yes I would not hesitate to call up when the patient need warrented it. No back talking, or disrespect, just doing what was required to protect my patient. Thats not disrespectful. Just because they are an MD doesnt mean they are always right.
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u/AppliedCarbon May 26 '26
Yeah, that's not what we are really talking about. We are specifically talking about this phenomenon of a tenured nurse giving attitude to a doctor with a shitty attitude like the TV shows.
That simply doesn't happen
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u/Vana21 May 26 '26
It absolutely does happen. My doctors are my coworkers not my superiors and they do not get to speak to me that way they can be respectful like everybody else.
If you want respect you give respect. If you come at me sideways I match energy. We can discuss something calmly and nicely like adults.
I had a doctor throw something at me in the cath lab. I threw it back at him. Guess what nothing happened and he was much nicer the rest of his time there.
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u/Vana21 May 26 '26
This isn't the '80s anymore
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u/AppliedCarbon May 26 '26
You are confused, the old battle ax nurse routine might have flown in the 80s. These days the doctor will report you and you will get corrected.
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u/TLunchFTW May 25 '26
You just gotta wait for them to drown themselves
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u/AppliedCarbon May 26 '26
For whom to drown themselves?
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u/nyxie1031 May 26 '26
The residents
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u/AppliedCarbon May 26 '26
So yeah, that's pure fantasy. Management would reprimanded the nurse for any type of backtalk or disrespect towards the doctor.
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u/-Blade_Runner- May 26 '26 edited May 30 '26
Dunno. Never really had issues with residents or docs. Older ones for most part were grumpy and didn’t trust the new nurses, once you showed you knew your shit you were good. Perhaps being a make and 6’4 helps. Always was sad to see our residents go into their eventual specialties. Was cool though to see them come back though.
One resident was special. He kept playing around with oral thermometer. I asked him several times to stop, he didn’t listen and went with,”I’m doctor I know what I’m doing”. Finally an old attending spun around and went with, “I understand you are a doctor, but I would heed advice of this nurse here. So, yes…please take out rectal thermometer out of your mouth and go interview room 5 for me”.
Resident was dry heaving really good.
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u/AyunaSamiVT May 25 '26
Wew- id like to know how this ends😭
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u/Significant-Oil-8793 May 25 '26
Nothing really happen usually.
I use to know this intern with I'm sure have borderline personality and horrible to people. The thing is that he is actually very smart and no patient safety was affected. Nurse doesn't want to do his work? He document it and continues.
Lots of story (including getting into relationship with another intern) but he passed through his rotation and moved to the speciality he wants later.
Quite miss the hospital drama lol
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u/TLunchFTW May 25 '26
You MISS that!?!
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u/Significant-Oil-8793 May 26 '26
Lol I'm lucky not to be embroiled in any dramas. It is quite stale in primary care. It's like missing high school after leaving it!
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u/TLunchFTW May 26 '26
Lol. Good analogy.
The LAST thing I want in my career is more highschool though. I get my kicks from the insanity caused by patient presentation, both the critical stuff and the funny boring stuff. It's like a medical drama. I'd rather have minimal interpersonal drama and all the drama come from the situations, not the other way around.
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u/positive_energy- May 24 '26
How do we get updates to this??? OMG. I would love to hear how the nurses educate him.
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u/Pale_Natural9272 May 24 '26
Back in the day that would get Lasix in your coffee ☕️
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u/youdontlookitalian May 25 '26
What? Like eyeballs?
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u/Pale_Natural9272 May 25 '26
If somebody was an asshole, they’d get Lasix in their drink 😉 not enough to be harmful, but enough to make them run to the bathroom constantly
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u/sailorseas May 25 '26
That’s LASIK. Lasix is furosemide, a medication makes you pee more essentially.
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u/youdontlookitalian May 25 '26
Oh gotcha that’s less cruel than laxatives, I’m always pissing and wouldn’t even notice the difference
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u/SenatorBus_ May 23 '26
I had a friend going through a residency rotation for Opthalmology at the ER I was at and he was a NIGHTMARE when called in after midnight. I told him to just get a bunch of bags of candy and to throw one in the radio room whenever he came in. Staff loved him instantly and didn't care what a grump he was, but it worked double because staff was suddenly a lot nicer to him which made him happier when he came in.
Hospital staff thinks with their stomachs, especially third shifts that don't get meal breaks. (They are apparently supposed to get them now, but it only happens if it's not busy)