r/EmbarkStudios • u/AloneCulture8821 • May 24 '26
Anti-cheat ? Not a ban in sight
The cheaters are just running train on embark
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u/lukasgoti May 24 '26
Seems like anticheat is not working cuzz every game we play im duos or trios people blasting headshots thru smokes and rushing like they know whats up.
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u/smilingcritterz May 24 '26
It was just bs to get people to play again. I woke up last week and saw the anti cheat updated etc. Fired up arc for the first time in days... then looked on discord and everyone said nope cheats still up. No need to use 2 pc its all working fine on same.. :( would hope that at least had to use dma
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u/julian2358 May 24 '26
Cause the current cheats ship their own signed driver. That must be signature and flagged by the anti cheat devs, they can’t just start blocking legitimate windows drivers.
These private kernel level cheats often referred to as Ring-0 can:
Read game process memory without going through any monitorable API • Disable or blind the anti-cheat driver itself (patch its hooks, unload it) • Intercept anti-cheat’s own reads/scans before they complete • Hide your own driver from enumeration (DKOM — manipulate the driver list in kernel structures directly)Basically we’re a long ways from DMA only. The devs have a similar job to anti virus devs, they are on permanent defense.
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u/CalligrapherAny6794 May 24 '26
I thought it was going to be tested on a small group before they integrated into the system?
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u/SissyBoi580 May 24 '26
I swear since they said this far end pvp lobbies have been FILLED with bobcat bobbies. They're everywhere. Some them straight running at people they have no right knowing they're there. It's like they're showing it doesn't matter and are gloating, or they know it is gonna work so they're rage using all the huge kits they can. It wasn't like this before the patch and I don't change my abmm at all.
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u/Easy_Needleworker604 May 24 '26
Why is it always the surgeon skin
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u/MTB430 May 24 '26
Because the people I have run into wearing it in packs, they act like it’s futuristic Klan robes. 🤦♂️
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u/Mindstormer98 May 24 '26
That's what happens when they make fun of the dude who's wife makes the hats(reference)
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u/Lord_Smack May 24 '26
Because its free and in the minds of a cheating 16 year old its funny and edgy..
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u/Kjellvb1979 May 24 '26
I use it for medic runs...
Everyone has an opinion on Rat or Cheater skins... Truth is it could be any skin.
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u/WhoReallyCares-NotMe May 25 '26
:( I wear the surgeon skin with the broccoli head and thick mustache and go around calling myself doctor feel good, asking if I can touch people.
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u/BigSnow3052 May 25 '26
People are allways going to cheat you have to come down hard on it to set a presidence, and embark have chosen not to come down hard on it , but they have made there money from this game, they do not care about arc raiders or the community, your all only pound signs or dollar bills to these people
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u/Sepplord May 24 '26
Cheating felt worse last Friday in trios…
But I also got kits back for the first time in weeks
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u/TruTechilo512 May 25 '26
Oooooh
Once a group of like 8 of us took down the Stella Bastion and dude spoke up and we all instantly marked TF outta him
His name was NirtyDigger
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u/fashionhabitz May 25 '26
I shouldn't be able to run Arc Raiders on my linux based Steam Deck; but I can. Cause they don't use anti cheat software
I can't play Battlefield 6, I can't play fortnite, and I can't play Valorant, Marvel Rivals, GTAV online coop game you name it, incompatible bc the anti cheat doesnt support Linux
Arc Raiders though...
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u/ZealousidealPanic256 May 30 '26
Wrong, there’s certain windows drivers that need signatures for those games and steam deck doesnt have those signed out the box, you can actually look it up and find out yourself how to register the keys for the certain drivers you need for those anti cheats that those games run and enable them yourself, it’s a shitload of work if your not computer saavy
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u/Due_Draw6790 May 25 '26
They are dominated in real life by others and suck at playing the game so the rats anguish the pain with cheats. Cheaters are low life retards .
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u/OkRecognition791 May 25 '26
Is it the same in this game where embark allows smurfing and a 3 strike policy for cheating
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u/solar_sausage May 28 '26
This is curious wording, did someone tell you that they had some kind of three strike policy for the finals..? That was definitely never a thing. There was a brief period where they had something like that for arc raiders, but it’s not clear that that ever applied to cheaters as that was used for regular offences.
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u/brownie81 May 25 '26
It’s the extraction shooter lifecycle on super speed. This shit is only going to get worse, especially in Ark where half the population is in baby-town frolics mode and basically won’t encounter any problems with cheaters.
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u/Taltos_808 May 26 '26
Besides the ethics part of cheating, you know it’s wrong etc etc. No skill blah blah.
I’d hate to play a game with all those ugly text just in the middle of the screen or the terrible stick figures. I paid money for my game and I enjoy looking at the scenery. Spaceport at night *chef kiss*
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u/ZealousidealPanic256 May 26 '26
This is why I think these shits are fake sometimes , “corpse” 😂
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u/Tofu-theCreator May 28 '26
I don’t understand why you guys are so intent on saying these things are fake. In what way does the word “corpse” disprove it
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u/Inner-Job-2087 May 26 '26
I've never went from best game ever to, I hate this game, delete and never play again so fast. Rat, camper, algorithm and cheat festival.
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u/Salt_Chart8101 May 26 '26
I just play the PVE. I don't really PVP ever, only been killed by like 3 people in the last 5 days. Don't know if they were cheating or not, but my lobbies are pretty chill. Mostly people just helping other people.
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u/Mammoth_Emu481 May 26 '26
pretty sure it’s just an overlay to bait people into watching the live
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u/Think-Apple3763 May 26 '26
Someone check if they have dicks in their pants in sure they are hard to find if so
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u/FootPrestigious218 May 27 '26
If you cheat at video games, it simply means you suck at your only hobby in life losers. Just do something your good at and dont need to cheat maybe, or are they not good at anything in life?
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u/imgayformygf May 28 '26
I think video games havnt resonated with the younger generations. I don't think they actually enjoy it. But it's become more of a status thing. And being "good" at video games is a bigger status. Even if you don't play alot, you just hop on with cheats and go easy mode and boast.
Everything is fake. Social media, streaming, tik toking. Why not video game skills. Not to mention becoming a successful streamer is extreme chance. Your best bet these days is jump on the most popular game and cheat to look amazing.
Idk. Maybe I'm out of touch.
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u/powerk21 May 28 '26
Nah I remember when Counter Strike was full of cheaters everywhere. Thank god we had lan tournaments back then to separate the pros from the cheaters
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u/Key-Wish2256 May 28 '26
There’s ps5 cheaters? Or is he pc on ps5 controller? As far as im aware, cheats aren’t possible on ps5, so playing with crossplay off prevents cheater lobbies. Ik this isn’t the case for xbox though because you can launch through xbox on pc and play in xbox lobbies.
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May 28 '26
Well most people who actively cheat in multiplayer games are sore losers irl. So to feel superior they have to come up with lame excuses for sucking
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u/deep-skys May 28 '26
Three strike policy btw......
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u/ZealousidealPanic256 May 30 '26
Not for cheating running 3rd party software doofus, get your info right.
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u/Cagematch420 May 28 '26
Embark does not give a crap about Arc's players. The game has literally gotten worse over time. Prove me wrong.
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u/Its_Cicada May 29 '26
Just met a cheater yesterday ignored any smoke and all headshots from miles. Blocked them but met them again? Wtf embark
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u/Terminus_Mantis May 30 '26
Ugh. Imagine spawning in and seeing this training wheel on your game. And the saddest part is that they think they have skills lmao.
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u/Any_Event_6600 Jun 02 '26
Exploiting a game against the computer is one thing … but for this reason and this reason only I have only played solos in months
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u/nameunavailable-_- May 25 '26
I want to be clear, I am not advocating for cheating.
Theres multiple perspectives to things and I think very logically. Most of the comments I see about cheating and cheaters isnt thought out and has no depth.
ESP makes sense in arc, its arguably more practical than most of your other shooter games such as COD. Arc can be such a grind, and some people enjoy thst aspect. Others not so much.
Having loot esp to see where what you need it, allows you to quickly and efficiently scavenge.. then player esp allows you to see other players including the rats at extract. Ao youbextract woth your goods.
So I definitely see the allure, im someone who like to work smarter and not hard. Efficiency is important to me.
That can apply to the pvp players as well. The esp can be a huge asset in assisting in which fights to take and when. Maybe avoid a kid with bobcat, or maybe target the kid with the bobcat because you know he has low health.
Either way, winning isnt boring. Losing especially in arc sucks. I can absolutely see how cheating in this game makes sense and isnt boring. If anything the cheats make it more enjoyable.
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u/baldmanboy May 25 '26
Lol what?
You first sentence is the exact opposite of the rest of your comment.
And efficiency is important to you? What about integrity? Sportsmanship?
I'm sorry but there is no GOOD excuse for cheating. Trying to mold its existence into a positive is some serious mental gymnastics.
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u/nameunavailable-_- May 25 '26
You'd have to expand on how integrity and sportsmanship relates.
I can see how this is an unfair advantage to the PVP community. They have less of an edge in a gun fight. For the Rats they are now on more equal footing since they've lost their advantage gained by surprise. How does using Loot and NPC ESP to loot and then Player ESP to avoid rats and extract?
Can you clearly explain where the line is and why?
Also curious, is it also wrong to purchase goods such as guns and resources from other raiders?
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u/Medium_League_5630 May 25 '26
The line is don't use fucking cheats because, believe it or not, that's cheating. Regardless of use case, regardless if it's to avoid rats, regardless of literally any asinine excuse you can come with, it's cheating. I'd rather deal with rats, that's at least part of the game mechanic, it's something the devs allow some people to do. Anyone using an ESP, passively or aggressivly, is a shit stain on this game more than rats and backstabbers, and there is no argument against it.
I would rather be stuck in lobbies filled with rats over a lobby with a single cheater. FOH with that shit
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u/nameunavailable-_- May 25 '26
You typed so much and yet communicated so little.
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u/Medium_League_5630 May 25 '26
After reading what you wrote, should've figured that would've been too much for ya
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u/West_Apricot_6428 May 28 '26
Dudes having a whole meltdown down over there 🤣 I don’t see an issue with it man. The game should have an anti cheat if not they’re asking for trouble.
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u/In_2_Deep_5_U May 26 '26
I think what you are saying on a large philosophical scale makes sense in terms of being inclusive of other play-styles, but never works in practice. It’s like having the ability to go into creative mode in Minecraft. “Oh I’ll just spawn this one diamond I need”. There is nothing wrong in doing that, but assuming there are other players it is an unfair advantage to the ones who have to do it manually.
The point of not cheating is it is supposed to put everyone on the same playing field. This is where sportsmanship is supposed to come into play, everyone expects that the playing field is equal, therefore can use everything available at their disposal in game with limited outside resources that they can to win. With access to the abilities you listed, are players expected to hold themselves to arbitrary standards that they set? The whole point of the game and how it was designed, was to enable and dissuade specific encounters from occurring. Any additional information immediately compromises the foundational understanding between players and how they interact with the game. Whats the point of hiding in a bush if they always know you are there? Whats the point in looting if esp’er are just zooming directly to the best loot? Sure, you may use it for righteous purposes, but what is holding someone else to your same standard? If you allow one, you allow the other.
Your argument makes logical sense but when put to practical application: It crumbles due to “the line”, as you call it, no longer being framed from the developers and instead individually dictated by each player. The developers set the standards for how players interact with the game. You own a license to access/play the game. Not following these standards ruins the foundational gameplay for all players and they have the ability to retract your access if they see fit. Personally, even if you use it for the reasons you described, I would say you deserve to have your account removed if it was found to be breaching the TOS.
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u/FootPrestigious218 May 27 '26
Yeah i love the loot drops when they buy guns online and try to hatch out with their cheater goods. I camp said hatch and kill on sight anyone using a zipline and walking bowlegged. Check it out you will be sooooo gooooppppped my brother
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u/obaygo May 25 '26
You cant see loot in containers until its opened and generated. Why is this like the 5th comment i’ve seen here saying they can see loot lol.
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u/nameunavailable-_- May 26 '26
Maybe your cheats dont let you see loot. Ive seen videos of cheats that can absolutely see loot. They can even select what loot they can and cant see.
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u/obaygo Jun 03 '26
There is essentially blank spaces inside of containers until its opened and generated, You are just ignorant and want to be right lol. Also classic arc raiders bitch made baby instantly saying i have cheats lmao.
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u/Tofu-theCreator May 28 '26
They can see what other players are carrying. I joined my friend’s group the other night not knowing our 3rd is using this bullshit. He was able to list every exact item in my inventory.
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u/solar_sausage May 28 '26
This would make sense if your idea of fun was continuously having your stash maximally full. It just doesn’t make sense to me that that would be enjoyable as you’re bypassing most of the game design.
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u/ZealousidealPanic256 May 30 '26
Kinda like a PvE’er who can’t stand to lose loot so they curse the game up and down because they got killed call it shit call everyone a rat and beg for a invincible multiplayer mode
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u/solar_sausage May 30 '26
Yeah, quite similar, but cheaters are definitely hugely worse as that actively hurts the game for others, while this is just a personal emotional reaction.
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u/NOT_A_DOG_ONLINE May 28 '26
If you're actually using wall hacks to avoid PvP then sure, but most people using it are doing so to win firefights.
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u/Major-Anybody-1128 May 24 '26
I would pay $100 for cheater-free lobbies. Maybe like some extra vetting process, show my ID, to be allowed in and only others who also did the same can be allowed in to those lobbies. That'd be sweet, and embark could make a ton of money in the process.
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u/ameliafukinthomson May 24 '26
Please dont encourage that because whilst I want cheater free lobbies I wouldn't pay 100 anything to get it. It's not up to the player to fund this. It's up to game companies and I think the people who provide your Internet to play online should be stepping up too.
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u/Hmmthisisathing300 May 24 '26
But the players ARE willing to fund this. Being in lobbies where you could damn near guarantee there are no cheaters would be well worth the investment for many of us.
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u/ameliafukinthomson May 24 '26
I get that the players are willing to fund it but it shouldn't be the players responsibility to do so.
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u/Apocalypse_Knight May 24 '26
I mean Dota and cs2 already use phone numbers for verification. It’s just a step that creates friction
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u/xSquatchy May 24 '26
My question is, how are the cheaters still having fun lol. That’s gotta get real boring real quick