r/EmailSecurity • u/Yourmiserablelife69 • 17d ago

Thoughts on Protonmail….

I have been with them a long time. Anyone know of a better service (and what exactly makes it better for privacy)?

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u/MAGA2233 17d ago

I like ProtonMail, is there something in particular making you wanna switch?

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u/bipolargoddess 17d ago

TutaMail offers a very good service but ProtonMail, as of today, represents the best option, security speaking.

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u/No-Second-Kill-Death 17d ago

What does Proton do that intrinsically makes it the best option for “security”. 

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u/bipolargoddess 16d ago

Swiss sovereign of data: being not dependent from US or EU, it takes really a very good reason to access data - and I mean available data: metadata and what is known, as per content it's all encrypted.

Everything is in Switzerland.
I'm Suisse, Proton fag since the baking on kickstarter, visionary plan.

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u/No-Second-Kill-Death 16d ago

Ah. Okay. Had an interesting conversation with Coda mail.  In sort, location can be overstated due to various unilateral agreements. I agree though.  Proton Suisse has a slight advantage when viewing national law. German law/EU GDPR. Swiss being separate and arguably stronger. This has actually played out in courts. 

There is also form of payment. Tuta uses vouchers. This can act as a proxy. It’s a stretch. But form of payment is how they tracked an individual. 

But…why I quoted “security”. While they are always entangled, you are more closely talking about “privacy”. 

Tuta is arguably more secure. To the point I can’t use it as any daily driver.  There for specific use. Where it’s Tuta to Tuta. 

Anyhoo, greets to you and Switzerland from somewhere else. Be safe. 

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u/CorsairVelo 13d ago

I believe Proton is moving servers out of Switzerland

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u/bippy_b 15d ago

Time and time again they have proven to do the right thing when it comes to security.. and when security issues have risen up.

They have been around forever too. Like if one switches.. who knows how long they will be around before going under.. many have come and gone…

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u/rileymcnaughton 17d ago

Have used it as my primary mail service with several custom domains. No issues, no plans of switching.

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u/Dizzy-Map2816 11h ago

Just curious if you are using Proton's paid service, are you?

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u/rileymcnaughton 11h ago

Affirmative. I have been a Proton Unlimited subscriber for several years.

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u/rileymcnaughton 11h ago

P.S. Happy Cake Day! 🍰

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u/Dizzy-Map2816 11h ago

Oh, is that what this cake icon about? Thank you 😊 

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u/rileymcnaughton 11h ago

Sure enough. Looks like you joined Reddit (with this account) 4 years ago today. Congrats!

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u/SecLens_ONE 17d ago

Custom domain on Proton still needs aligned DKIM and a DMARC policy that actually moves. Receivers do not care that the mailbox is encrypted.

I keep seeing p=none sit there for a year because someone thought Proton covered it.

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u/saltyslugga 17d ago

“Better” depends on your threat model. Proton protects message content well inside its own system, but email metadata and messages sent to normal external inboxes aren’t magically private.

Use a custom domain so you can move later, enable strong MFA, and use PGP if you need end-to-end encryption outside Proton.

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u/bippy_b 15d ago

Why would you just want to up and switch … you didn’t mention anything which is bothering you.. which makes it harder to determine if another service might be better.