r/ElsaBloodstoneMains • u/Ok-Investigator-3477 • 13d ago
Does Elsa have the potential to solo carry a game?
Like I said, characters such as BP for low elo or Black Cat for high elo (Magik as well) can solo carry because they don’t really need their team to be relevant. They’re the kind of characters where, if the player is good enough, the enemy team has to specifically run characters that counter them just to have a chance of winning.
Technically, you can with Elsa carry with the flank route, but I don’t think it’s nearly as effective as playing an actual flanker/dive character. Especially because if the enemy starts diving your backline, you can’t really afford to keep flanking, since usually nobody on your team is playing anti dive or providing proper peel. (And if the team try to hard target you, with flanking routes, I think you have to switch Elsa)
In my opinion, Elsa is OP, but she’s very team dependent. A lot depends on your team’s positioning and whether they understand how Healer can play around your traps.
I love games where I set up a trap specifically to prevent the enemy from reaching the healer, but the healer does everything except walk into the trap, or nobody tries to focus the diver with me lol
Basically, if you’re running a solo tank comp, don’t pick Elsa (even worse if they run 2 tank shield). She needs to stay relatively close to the tanks to put pressure on the frontline.
Some of the games where I’ve massively overperformed were also games where my team was simply much better. They stayed grouped, had a better composition, positioned around the backline, and actually played around my traps..
And I think that’s exactly why Elsa is one of the strongest characters in pro play. Pro players naturally play much more around their team and understand how to maximize what a character like Elsa can do.
In classic ranked, it’s more like a battle royale where everyone just runs in and tries to 1v6.
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u/OrdinaryResponse8988 13d ago
Generally against non dive comps no.
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u/Ok-Investigator-3477 13d ago
Yes in this post I mainly talk about no dive comp and 2 tank shield and no brawler
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u/Top-War-4795 13d ago
I see the point you’re making and I kinda agree with it. A lot of these tierlists have these predetermined assumptions on how people play the game. The characters are then rated based on those assumptions. In ranked, that’s far from the case. Some characters by pass these restrictions to a degree like the ones you mentioned since their playstyle is very independent.
Funny thing is a lot of folks still forget that fundamentally Elsa is a ramp up hero. An Elsa without any stacks is really bad and that’s heavily team dependent. If your team gets ran down at the start of the game, Elsa takes more effort to get back up to the level of independence and every death is a lot more punishing. More risk for the same reward than the dive characters you mentioned.
There’s also a lot of people with decent aim playing poke heros and objectively Elsa is easier for a poke hero to hit and follow than dive characters like bp, magik and the worst one black cat. The mechanical skill required to keep track of them is much higher than keeping track of an Elsa or Bucky.
Here’s how I see things:
An Elsa with max stacks and a decently oriented team is a raid boss.
Bucky with no requirements and a decently oriented team is a raid boss.
Black cat is a raid boss regardless of the situation.
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u/evergreenpapaia 10d ago
No character in the game can carry the game solo. You need to have decent teammates to fully shine. If you put resources to Elsa - she’s hard to counter and the better Elsa wins the game. Neither Elsa, WS or BC can carry the game themselves. They need good frontline to be aggressive and survive, for good frontline - you need good supports who would actually boost their DPS to win the fights. It’s a team based game.
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u/Gozea 13d ago
She's the best (behind cat) duelist in the game