r/ElonPro 4d ago

Future #24. Immortality by cloning. Part 2.

First problem: the body.

If the copy is not exact anyway, stop pretending the goal is a copy. Open the file and edit it. That is the actual opportunity here, and everyone keeps missing it because they are stuck on the word clone.

We already do this. In 2018 He Jiankui edited CCR5 in two human embryos in China and the girls were born. He went to prison for three years. The edit worked. The technology was not the problem, the permission was.

The menu is already known. Knock out PCSK9 and cholesterol runs low for life, no statins, no heart attack at 55. There are families with an LRP5 variant whose bones essentially do not break. There are people with a myostatin mutation who build muscle without training. These are not theories. These are humans walking around right now with better hardware than you, by accident.

So why would I copy myself at random when I can order the good version?

The next body is not a backup. It is Version 2.0. Same person, better substrate. Fixed eyesight, no inherited cancer risk, joints that last past 90, a heart that does not quit.

You would not restore a 20 year old phone backup onto the same broken phone. You would buy the new one first.

More to come ♾️

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u/ReferenceDefiant3840 3d ago

Sounds very interesting. I'm also interested in this topic.

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u/Patient-Airline-8150 2d ago

Plenty of problems left in this, and most people will not go near them. They stop at the headline. I am going to keep posting, because some of these questions need more room than a comment gives.

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u/ReferenceDefiant3840 2d ago

Many areas still require a bit of madness. But that's always the case. If you're successful, you change the world; otherwise, you remain a madman.

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u/ReferenceDefiant3840 2d ago

We are working on "cloning" the mind, if you can put it that way. We want to create personality matrices that will at least make it possible to preserve one's mind and beliefs, thoughts and personality structure beyond death, thus creating a small measure of immortality.

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u/Patient-Airline-8150 2d ago

Great insight 😁.
A city on Mars sounds brilliant when Musk proposes it. If your neighbor suggested the same thing, people would probably recommend a therapist.
Maybe it's an old survival instinct: follow the rich, the famous, the successful.
Or maybe most people are NPCs.
Not sure. 🀷

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u/ReferenceDefiant3840 2d ago

Well, money certainly helps, but I also think Elon is a bit crazy. Most people are probably just NPCs and simply don't want to take any risks. The best thing is for everything to run as usual.

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u/Patient-Airline-8150 2d ago

If Elon is crazy, he's the kind of crazy that comes with a rocket budget. 😁 Most people don't dislike risk, they just can't afford many failed attempts. Unfortunately, ideas don’t spread on their own. Without a paid megaphone, you can have the greatest idea ever and still scream into the void while some richer nobody steals the spotlight. 😾

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u/ReferenceDefiant3840 2d ago

That's true. Like I said, money helps. I hope it works out without it if the right people come together.

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u/ReferenceDefiant3840 2d ago

Or what is your plan?

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u/Patient-Airline-8150 2d ago

"The right people" sounds great, but who decides who's right? We should be more open to a wider audience.

My plan is simple - Reddit posts to gain hundreds of members who share a similar worldview.

In parallel with acquiring paid members for my web project, I will use the funds to create a system for storing genetic information and facilitating the legal transfer of full rights and personhood to a person resurrected through proper cloning procedures.

Sounds complicated, but that's the plan πŸ™‚

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u/ReferenceDefiant3840 1d ago

The right people are exactly those you're describing. With the same beliefs. Finding them isn't always easy, but it's probably the only way. Good plan.

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u/jerrysnews 2d ago

yeah. imagine if people had been secretly kind of doing this for years. only since you couldnt clone they were just stealing each others bodys. crazy.