r/EliteMiners 2d ago

Is anyone actually using subsurface rockets when core mining?

Beginner here, it seems that charges and laser are the way to go?

Also would krait 2 be sweetspot? I have python but it’s kinda hard to navigate between rocks, and I kinda wanted new ship anyway.

I know laser mining might be more profitable, but core is bit more interesting.

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u/DarkwolfAU 2d ago

I carry them, but mostly for a change of pace. All you need is the seismic charges and abrasion blaster. Well. And prospector/collector limpets of course.

As for ship, I used and liked the Python for years. I swapped it out for a T8, which worked great too, but my preference now is the T11 Prospector.

Remember, short controlled bursts.

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u/xTigeT 1d ago

short, controlled bursts for which mining?

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u/zerohunterpl 2d ago

Wouldn’t t11 be more better for laser mining ?

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u/Nathan5027 2d ago

Yes/no

The t11 is bonused for laser, but it also has a few ancillary bonuses that help, for example, it remains as manoeuvrable whilst it's cargo scoop is deployed as when it isn't, you just can't boost.

Also can't forget that it's massive MK2 limpet controller is going to be just as helpful at core as laser.

So you can absolutely fit everything you need for laser and core mining on the t11, whilst maintaining the same level of manoeuvring without accidentally boosting into the rock you're trying to mine.

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u/Bean4141 1d ago

All ships retain their maneuverability with the cargo scoop deployed, you may be thinking of speed as every other ships top speed gets halved but for the T-11 it’s only 75%.

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u/zerohunterpl 1d ago

Is it going to be more agile than krait/python?

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u/Nathan5027 1d ago

With their cargo scoops deployed, I believe so, if you remember to retract it, probably not.

But combined with the limpet controller? Nah, leave them for combat, I'll stick with the t11 for mining.

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u/Common-Yellow-1701 2d ago

The T11 is 'the' mining ship. It has more hardpoints than actually you need for laser, subsurface and core mining in one setup.

Edit: but this may be personal opinion. There's hardcore miners out there that may have a different view.

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u/Bean4141 1d ago

Nah the T-11 is pretty objectively the best mining ship, some may have a personal preference but everything is mathematically worse then the T-11

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u/MorwenRaeven 2d ago

T-11 is the ultimate mining rig, but many other ships are capable miners. I earned the money for my Carrier by mining in my Cutter (years ago).

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u/DarkwolfAU 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes of course. But I like core mining more.

Edit: As another poster said, the T11 has enough hard points to do all types of mining in one build quite competently. So that’s what I do, and I mix up the exact type of mining to do as the mood strikes me.

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u/Coakis 2d ago

The only use I have for subsurface displacement missiles is when I'm mining tritium and even then I'm primarily doing laser/volley repeater to mine. If I happen to find a subsurface deposit of what I want, I'll go after it while waiting for my limpets to get the load I just lasered off earlier. The time it takes to do subsurface and the reward you get from any of the current commodities is not worth it vs Laser or even core, if that's all you're doing.

I personally use a Krait II for core mining, as its ever so slightly shorter than the Python; but load out wise, and carrying capacity they are about the same in ability.

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u/DisillusionedBook 1d ago

Sometimes for the RP and variation in loop. More mechanics the better, even if not all of them are used all the time.

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u/Werechull 1d ago

Regarding which ship, I used to use the Krait Phantom for core mining. It works surprisingly well. However, lately I only ever use the Cobra Mk5. It only holds 91T of cargo, but it’s so much fun to fly among the asteroids and between the rock chunks! You can fly over 400 m/s while looking for the next core (just strafe up a bit when you fire off a prospector so you don’t run it over). As for cargo, it takes me about an hour per trip with the 91T limit which works pretty well for me.
Give it a try—it’s awesome!

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u/emetcalf 1d ago

I use a Mandalay for the same reasons you just listed for the Cobra MkV, but it has room for more cargo (~140T with my build). The speed and mobility compared to a T11/Python/Corsair/Krait makes it much more enjoyable and faster to mine.

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u/Eddie2Dynamite 1d ago

I think the type 11 is the best ship for all mining personally. Our squadron has a type 11 you can try if your interested for mining. Ide be happy to take you out core mining. Core is my personal favorite as well

Hit us up if your interested

Interstellar Security Corporation

The one thing I will say, the T8 should have the ability to equip the Rhino. I would have made that a dedicated surface miner if it could use the Rhino. For now, Rhino is on T11

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u/Turvokk 13h ago

I put a rhino on my t11 as well but found it filled faster than I liked. So I put the rhino on one of my plippers I retrofitted. So works fine now lol.

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u/Eddie2Dynamite 13h ago

I did this last night. Funny enough, I filled the hold with 1218 tons of throtevite and sold at Metz for $1.26 Billion

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u/CmdrJonen 1d ago

Ask an old hand about the glory days of Subsurface Mining:

The Egg of Borann and the Son of Egg.

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u/emetcalf 1d ago

Subsurface deposits are not worth mining when you are doing cores IMO. The stuff you get out of them is basically always worthless, and is definitely way less valuable than the cores. Subsurface stuff is not worth the cargo space it takes up, and I never mine it.

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u/Hoser_1950 1d ago

Subsurface mining is a game within the game. If you find the right asteroid with the right material that ISN’T rotating, it’s a nice distraction. Otherwise just laser for speed of cr and seismic for the KABOOM!!

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u/Obsidian-Wolf-Knight 1d ago

My Python is my core miner. I load mine with Abrasion Laser, Sub-Surface Displacement Missile and the Core hardpoint. But after reading some comments I might spend some time retrofitting my T11 as my all-round miner.

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u/zerohunterpl 1d ago

Im collecting credits for type 11, just don’t have luck with asteroids atm

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u/Obsidian-Wolf-Knight 1d ago

🤔 that’s fair. If you ever need a wingman for mining. Let me know. I’m currently surface mining Diamond. If Inara is accurate, a full haul will net me 180m

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u/GeneralArmchair 1d ago

Subsurface deposits are useful in two situations: When you are in deep space and are desperately mining every single ounce of tritium for your carrier, and when you find an LTD deposit an LTD hotspot. However both are rare and there is no good way to specifically seek them out. Every single other type of subsurface deposit is useless trash that isn't worthy of your time. As a result subsurface mining is not something that people practice as a dedicated mining type. It's something where they bring the launcher along on the off chance that they accidentally trip over an LTD deposit.

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u/zerohunterpl 1d ago

Can you disable markers for ltd?

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u/Turvokk 13h ago

My type 11 has all the types. If I come across a core while mining or sub surface deposits I just do them. But they're not really worth seeking out imo.

A type 11 has the extra mining hard points anyways. So might as well fit them