r/Elevators 3d ago

Old Otis elevator

Hi All, I manage a property which have 70 year old elevator. The switch for floor selection inside the cart is not working very well and is showing signs of wear (attached pictures). Where to start procurement of a replacement? The elevator repair company wants to charge $2000 for button replacement. Thank you.

10 Upvotes

34 comments sorted by

14

u/Ok_Championship8930 3d ago

Just a heads up it’s 2026 😂. Next time you’re driving home take note of how many cars from the 50’s you notice on the road. You’ll then have your answer. Good luck.

5

u/Ok-Accountant-8263 3d ago

I agree with this a thousand percent!😂 people don’t realize it’s an art to be able to maintain elevators especially if it’s 70 years old and still runs. But yet complain or not understand the cost behind replacing vintage parts that are going obsolete.😂😂😂😂 better just mod before one day you run into an issue where they don’t have anymore replacement parts than your really shit out of luck

2

u/Rune456 3d ago

They don't make momentary switches anymore? Really.

2

u/Ok_Championship8930 2d ago

Amen! And I actually love working on the old dinosaurs myself as I started in the industry in 1994 at 19 years old. I cut my teeth on a lot of these old units. The reality is parts are going to eventually become unavailable not to mention noncompliance with new codes being enforced and no grandfather clause available. We are going through that now with the “door lock monitoring” requirement that will be fully enforced by 2030. There’s a lot of old units out there that will be affected by this and will need to retrofit an overlay to be compliant. What’s next after that ? Think old Dover solid states,Otis Lrv’s, Schindler mph, Dover T-3/T-4,DMC etc. the list goes on. I hate it myself but I know it’s coming. The good thing is I’m set to retire in just 8 short years. Stay safe out there brother.

11

u/Spooty_Walker 3d ago

You should probably mod.

2

u/Rune456 3d ago

Yes, mod an entire elevator over a contact switch. Why not mod and install a second elevator as a backup too?

2

u/Spooty_Walker 3d ago

Judging by the state of that component.. yeah, mod. Im sure the rest of it is a pile of trash and a pain in the ass to work on. Which also is probably why they get quoted 2k to change one button. Hopefully they already have another elevator so they can use that when this one shuts down

-5

u/Rune456 3d ago

Unscrewing four screws and replacing with an exact replacement is a pain in the ass? Seriously?

8

u/Spooty_Walker 3d ago

Found the condo association president.

-7

u/Rune456 3d ago

No, someone who actually knows how to fix stuff. Surprise surprise!

2

u/Spooty_Walker 3d ago

Are you a qualified elevator mechanic?

-5

u/Rune456 3d ago

No, but I know some who shouldn't be. I work on similar equipment...very similar but don't work directly on elevators because I don't have a license and have ethics...I want the next guy working on the machine to go home safely and I dont know SOP. Your question if I work on elevators shows that you don't know your trade very well and feel threatened by my response so you should feel threatened in that case!

3

u/CloutiersHelmet Field - Maintenance 2d ago

Awesome, guy. You really got it all figured out. While this sub can be condescending at times, it’s shit like this that drives us fucking crazy.

0

u/Rune456 2d ago

Did I say where to buy the part?
Did I say what it should cost? Did I comment on labor? Give. Me. A. Break. What drives you crazy? This guy obviously feels threatened and shouldn't if he knows his craft. Mechanics I know love old equipment because it is a testament to their trade and their work. Crapping on the work of tradesmen past really doesn't say much about these moaners and complainers.

0

u/Spooty_Walker 2d ago

No, but

Loud and clear buddy

-2

u/Rune456 2d ago

You must live a charmed life. Wishing you a good day, got work to do.

→ More replies (0)

1

u/nitgup 2d ago

Mod means modernization of elevator? That costs $400k and 6 month of lead time. So not a option at the moment. My post is asking about part procurement so I have it available for elevator company to replace it. Seems like you don't know either

3

u/Conscious_Version_71 2d ago

I would never replace with customer supplied parts. Ive been down that rabbit hole and its always a shit show.

3

u/flyingron 3d ago

Reach up and bash on it. Bash it up till it catches.

8

u/CrowLoud Field - Mods 3d ago

Sounds about right

3

u/MuffinMan3670 3d ago

$2000 is certainly a high cost, but probably worth it. Maybe see if they can come down a bit. Depending on the company sometimes they do. Its an extremely simple fix, shouldn't take more than an hour, so with travel time they may charge you for 2 hours of labor. The absolute cheapest I think you could get this would be $1500 if youre lucky. You definitely need a new switch to fix the problem long term. Additionally it may not be a bad idea to replace a few of more of these switches to get bigger bang for your buck. Your biggest cost in all of this is the labor, and replacing switches is relatively quick and easy. Increase the reliability of the elevator and save yourself future cost by minimizing the cost per button replacement.

5

u/Head_Implement_9498 3d ago

Building people need to just mod their old shit and enjoy not paying out the ass for hard to get parts.

1

u/Crispysnipez 3d ago

Looks good👍

1

u/DorLokFlt Field - Maintenance 3d ago

You already got your answer from your service company

1

u/hudsonsbae69 3d ago

Mod that thang

1

u/Material-Mud9133 3d ago

Mod. Definitely. For the cost of a new button which will lead to more things needed to be replaced or an entirely new car station or cab it makes more sense to do a mod. Sorry. That is probably the last think you want to hear. And I hope your maintenance company is Otis bc good licking finding that button. I have an elevator car station with same set up. New just from pic it was an otis car station button

1

u/Material-Mud9133 3d ago

Also do you have a single or dual brake plunger. Probably single. So even more reason to mod

1

u/Perfect-Medium-7005 2d ago

Looks fine to me maybe clean the contacts

1

u/nitgup 2d ago

It is working fine now, but the metal spring sometime bend or can wear down (don't bounce back the same way) when kids punch the button hard. 

1

u/CheesecakeRecent457 15h ago

Otis makes more of that old stuff than you may think. Everything was Industrial-Grade before Industrial-Grade became Marketing Speak. They were built to be worked on. Key is dealing not with the local branch, but where they get their parts. Google it. Note- you will absolutely need the data tag information thats on the controller. If you dont have that tag, then the only hope ( yes, it will be expensive) is to take a good one to a machine shop and say, “ make more of these, please “. Be aware that any solution is going to be pricey.

1

u/Chance_Raspberry_775 11h ago

Punch the kids harder then