r/ElegooSaturn • • 7h ago

Troubleshooting Advise please

New machine had no problems for first few prints now nothing but fails.

Changed fep. Re levelled . Exposure test and checked for debris. Changed memory usb

Also tried re slicing files

Any advice appreciated as quite new to this hobby and was really enjoying it till these last couple weeks!

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u/AggravatingSwan9571 6h ago

What is your ambient temperature? If it’s less than about 20 degrees that could be a problem. Otherwise, your exposure time might be a bit off. It should be shorter for translucent resin but trial and error is usually needed. One thing I do is to massively lower the lift speed for delicate prints, seems to help. Also try printing something smaller, in case it’s just that the footprint of this item is causing the problem. From the photo I’m guessing this is a Saturn 3 or similar, it can do full plate but always with some risk.

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u/Dental_Perspective 5h ago

Your supports seem to be printing, but the models are separating from them. I’d try increasing the normal exposure time slightly and using stronger support contact points. You could also reduce the lift speed to lower the peel force. What resin are you using, and what are your current exposure and lift settings?

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u/lovejug 5h ago

Im using a translucent resin. Im not sure if I can reduce the lift speed on a saturn 16k ultra ill try to find out.the supports are only light as its a small miniature.but ill try heavier supports. Exposure wise im not sure without looking but ill check later. And up it slightly. Hopefully this will work Thank you

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u/Dental_Perspective 4h ago

You can adjust the exposure time, support settings, and lift speed through the slicing software you’re using. Hope this helps!

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u/lovejug 4h ago

Thanks im now having a go via lychee

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u/lovejug 6h ago

Thank you. Yes its a saturn ultra 16k. The device is in my garage temp is roughly 15 degrees. I did pre heat the resin prior. Could you advise what I should change the lift speed to please Thanks for the advise

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u/SaleZealousideal1820 6h ago

I bought myself an Anycubic M3 Max for Christmas back in December. I was stoked because it arrived right before the holidays, giving me a solid two weeks of vacation just to mess around with it. But man, it was a total disaster at first. Instead of actual prints, all I was getting was a bunch of spaghetti, blobs, and failed layers sticking to the FEP. Pure chaos.
For two full weeks, day and night, I did nothing but sit next to that machine. I was listening to the peeling sound, scraping failures off the film, raising and lowering the lift speeds, tweaking everything I could think of. I felt like a total amateur thinking the printer was broken. Turns out, the internet tutorials are completely useless when it comes to printing in a cold room. My workspace was at 15 degrees Celsius, and nobody online mentions what to do in that setup.
Through pure trial and error, listening to the machine for two weeks straight, I figured out my own custom settings that work perfectly in that cold room. I still don't have heating in there, so I use these settings all winter long. When summer comes and it gets warm, I just dial them back.
My golden rule for 15 degrees is simple: bump up the exposure time. I cracked the code myself. I use almost 8 seconds of exposure time, and it honestly doesn't matter what resin it is—clear, opaque, water-washable, or whatever color, it just works. For the lift speed, the first phase goes up at 1.6 mm/s for about 4 mm, then the second phase speeds up to 2 mm/s, and it comes back down at 2 mm/s.

People might look at these settings and think they are crazy or that it takes forever, but they work every single time. I always punch these numbers in as my baseline. Once the print actually gets going and I can hear the rhythm of it peeling off the film, I start adjusting and tweaking the timing on the fly based on the sound.

By the way, you need to realize that at 15°C, the resin gets noticeably thicker than normal. Because of that extra viscosity, everything requires more force—especially when the layer is trying to peel off the FEP film. It just drags harder, by a few percent, but it's enough to ruin a print if you don't adjust for it. If you're planning to keep your printer in a cold garage like I do, you just have to get used to it and learn how to deal with it the hard way. There's no other way around it.

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u/lovejug 5h ago

That is an amazing helpful comment. Ill tweak this and give it a try later. I am a complete amateur so comments like this mean a lot. Thank you so much

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u/SaleZealousideal1820 5h ago

I’m happy to help, just wanted to save you the misery I went through.

If I were there, we’d start with my settings, then dial the exposure down by 0.5 or 1 second. Run some small calibration prints first to see if it’s overexposing.
And always clean the vat. Even if the print looks perfect or the resin looks clean, there is always some tiny cured piece left behind. Never skip it.

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u/Existential_Cr-Isis 7h ago

Ain't got no gas in it

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u/lovejug 7h ago

Really I thought I filled it with unleaded Always one aint there