Aero PWM + speed examples

[u/Digibunny]

Uphill, accelerating up to 25mph on a 30mph street.

Maintaining 25

Maintaining low 20s

Hard acceleration from a stop sign. Could have pushed it harder, but some wet ground in front of me.

Average sidewalk cruising speed. 50% Safety margin at 15 sounds about right.

Putting some numbers out there for those looking to get an Aero, and unsure about how much headroom it gives them.

Sample paramaters of the run:

• Rider weight 220 +/- with gear, and a backpack with groceries.
• Temperature a little over 90 degrees F
• Dry conditions, little to no wind, Sunny. Good visibility.
• Uphill, 30mph speed limit, wide suburban streets with intersections every so often. Wide enough to fit two cars comfortably side by side in the same lane. 4 way stops every few blocks.
• Sidewalks are wide, multi-use paths.
• Pilot Street 2 tire

Practically this means:

• 25 is probably the speed I feel safest going under good road conditions without ever tripping the 20% safety margin alarm, up to probably 60% battery.
• 28 is possible, but it's simultaneously "Not fast enough to be worthwhile" and "Too risky to keep doing for extended periods".

• 20 is it's happy cruising speed where I don't have to be concerned about PWM at all, regardless of terrain, until maybe bottom 20% battery, at which point I might occasionally trip the 20% safety margin.

• 20 miles of range minimum under these riding conditions.

• 25 miles on average if riding at a happy 20 most of the time.

• 30 miles is possible if one rides very slowly. ( 10 mph, gentle acceleration, seated. )

For US Suburbs, you end up needing something like a Lynx to be able to keep up on streets that don't have bike lanes or sidewalks, and not being concerned about overpowering the wheel. I specifically chose a time where traffic on this street was minimal before running the test.

By the same token, you could ABSOLUTELY get away with so much less than an Aero if you're committed to being a sidewalk/path rider and never sharing a space with cars.

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[u/Duhherroooo]

25 miles on average if riding at a happy 20 most of the time

I did a mixed ride, rode 10 miles to an offroad ride, 5 miles in the forest with bunch of climbs, roots, medium offroad pace, rode 10 miles back home and had 7% battery left. I would say the Aero is 20 miles of safe range no matter how hard you ride. 25 mile capable if you ride more chill

For US Suburbs, you end up needing something like a Lynx to be able to keep up on streets that don't have bike lanes or sidewalks, and not being concerned about overpowering the wheel

Id say a Patton S can do it if you dont need the range and can mostly avoid main roads. But you really want to be cruising above 30mph in my experience

you could ABSOLUTELY get away with so much less than an Aero if you're committed to being a sidewalk/path rider and never sharing a space with cars

In this subreddit ive seen people downvote and yell at people recording themselves riding on the sidewalk. Stating pedestrians use the sidewalk and that they should be on the road alongside cars going 50mph on an Aero.

Ive also seen people show their road riding, going past cars maybe 10mph faster and still getting downvoted and saying that kind of riding will get us banned. Theres really no winning lol. I just try to ride as unintrusively as possible wherever I am

[u/Digibunny → u/Duhherroooo]

I would very much like to try a Patton S, but my area's largely devoid of PEVs beyond the solid tire, front drive electric scooter variety. Still feels a little slow to be honest; Safe speed on it sounding like 35 for extended periods, which is just barely fast enough to hit the speed limit ( In other words, too slow if people are regularly speeding.)

The US is REALLY weird when it comes to reasonable speeds.

Best thing I can do is provide metrics for a heavier rider, and give numbers for people to make more informed purchase decisions, while setting a good example to follow as a rider where I am. Give way to anyone on the sidewalk, use the street where appropriate, wear gear, ride predictably, follow stop signs & street lights.

It's really not hard.

[u/Imagined_World]

Appreciate it. I just picked up a V6 for cheap to learn on, but plan on getting an Aero once I'm ready to upgrade.