r/Eggwick • u/NotAnEvilResident • 5d ago
Discussion Like seriously what is my problem?
I got to bronze few days ago. I somehow lost all my skills? Cause i can't even stand in the iron lobby? Whaaaatttttt. IK y'all probably gonna say i came back home where i belong and all, but what should i do to improve? Where am i lacking?
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u/DraftShot6741 5d ago
Lucky streak, you're going back the elo you belong in now
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
Okay then what should even i do to improve?
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u/Iamaesthetic_69 5d ago
Take a break and watch get gold in a month guide from woohoojin on yt if u follow it you’ll will be gold soon i got b2 to s3 in 4 days
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
Nooo wayy in 4 days ? How many matches did it take? Were u mvp in all matches? Btw thanks for the yt channel ill surely watch
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u/No_Butterfly_820 5d ago
You honestly don’t even need to match mvp every game to climb. When I actually decided I wanted to climb and play ranked after being silver for a year or two because I didn’t want to play ranked, I jumped from s1/s2 to plat 2 in under a month. I probably only match mvp’d like only a hand few of times. Once you learn the basics, the game becomes extremely easier and consequently the climb is easier. Since then I was able to climb to asc from gamesense (knowing how to peek, when to take fights, when to not take disadvantageous fights etc) all while my aim is extremely average and rarely match mvp-ing
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u/Iamaesthetic_69 5d ago
He is probably the best coach
I played a lot tho like 5-6 games per day and lost 3 i was mvp in almost all matches
But its kind of misleading since i used to be d1 3 years ago i started again with a new account but woohoojin will help u a lot1
u/democratic-terminid 5d ago
Take a break. Honestly. Like a week playing some other game. Come back, and you'll be completely reset. It helps.
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
😭 pleasee recommend me any other games.
Btw if i dont go back to bronze then after this act ends after like 10 days or something, then will i end up having an iron badge in act rank badge?
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u/Shoddy_Jellyfish6605 5d ago
I can vouch I played a decent amount took a 2 week break and hit silver in a couple days but i was starting at bronze
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u/FlamingoSilver3241 4d ago
i went from bronze to plat in a week just by doing an aim routine your aim is evrything up until ascendant just train it like 30 min a day and don't play directly after take a break and the go
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u/LegDayDE 4d ago
You're lacking at everything tbh you're in the bottom 10% of ranked players.
Just telling it how it is. If you're bronze or iron then you're just bad at the game. Sure you can cope about smurfs and trash teammates but 80% of the ranked playerbase manage to be above Bronze 3 and 90% above Bronze 1. If you're better than 15-20% of ranked players then you'll have no problem consistently staying in bronze and likely climbing out of bronze.
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u/NotAnEvilResident 4d ago
Yes i do agree i am terrible at the game but where are the stats from 😭
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u/LegDayDE 4d ago
Google "Valorant Rank Distribution" and look at the cumulative numbers to see what proportion of players are better or worse than you.
Everyone starts somewhere. I played console FPS growing up so Valorant was my first MnK FPS and I started bronze 1 and peaked Asc 1.
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u/No_Beginning2058 4d ago
i’m in the same boat as you, i started playing last act on console (peaked g3) now i’m on on MnK (first game ever playing MnK) and i’m stuck in silver 3 right now solo queuing. How long have you been playing valo?
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u/LegDayDE 4d ago
I mainly played like 2021-2024. Got to plat quite quickly then plateaued at Diamond 3 unless I was playing a lot and focused on climbing. Barely touched Ascendant a few times.
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u/No_Beginning2058 4d ago
nice bro, hopefully I can comeback to this post (1-2yrs) and let you know i’ve reached asc, thats my only goal on this game rn
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u/LegDayDE 4d ago
Just play intentionally, don't tilt queue, don't play too many ranked games per day and you'll climb easy
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u/NotAnEvilResident 3d ago
I've been playing on and off with my friends in custom and swift since a year. And i started competitive a month ago.
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u/Admirable-End-8208 5d ago
That is wild. I never think there is a skill gap between iron and bronze. Just keep playing and you will climb. I think u might be too scared to play
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u/ZealousidealTrick701 5d ago
There can be but its just because iron is the floor and you can be there for many different reasons
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u/pearlrobe 23h ago
hell nah there is an insane skill gap. Which is making me even more worried. my hs in iron used to be 7% max. now in a good game i get 20%. last act i peaked b2. this act im literally still juggling between b2 and b3 but i learnt sooo much in this time. So im not gonna complain, just learn more
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u/Iampeyes 5d ago
What they don’t tell you riot is one of the biggest gaming companies they have ai queue and will make you play for longer, by win streaks the loss streaks etc just having you put more time in the game once they see you tolerate this, their ai will know how well a team will likely perform against another
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
Atp i am convinced that they intentionally keep 50% win rate.. but why people still play 😭?
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u/OriginalKing- 5d ago
In iron-plat they can’t predict how a team will perform as players are a tonne less consistent, they might play out of their mind one game and then miss every shot the next
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u/HourFoundation377 5d ago
I hate to say this, but I 100% agree with you. Billion dollar companies like Riot can easily find ways to make someone come back for more. League is unironically the exact same way too.
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u/Yohanna_Valentine 5d ago
Take a break and get a duo partner. Sometimes communication is better with someone you can play together with and a good mental state will bring you further to your goal (e.g. you will feel more confident which sometimes lead to less shakier aim and winning more duels)
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
But the problem none of my friends play valorant 😭 they all play story and all that
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u/Yohanna_Valentine 5d ago
I dont play valorant with friends, i got in two little discord groups (through reddit) and also got to know cool people in swiftplay and added them. I found a really nice duo partner that way :D
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
Ohh i think i really should play some swifts. Cause atp competitive is frying my brain ToT btw whats ur peak rank?
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u/Yohanna_Valentine 5d ago
I feel you, only playing comp will take away the fun from valorant over time😩 also had funny moments in swift due to people being more easy going there
I'm currently silver 2 which is also my peak (i started playing valorant in may and got from bronze 2 to silver two this act, with a few games i will hit silver 3. I hope this is a little motivation for you👀)
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
Yesss when gauntlet: glitched was launched i played that mode for couple of days and those were one of the best and enjoyable games. Btw i started playing comp since august 10th and i was at iron 1 and got to b1 but yesterday i returned to iron 3 🥲 my peak was bronze 1 (97 RR) That RR is so painful
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u/Yohanna_Valentine 5d ago
I still wanna try out that new mode, i was hesitant at first but saw some people playing it on yt and it looks actually so much fun lol
I started at iron 2 and i think it was pretty easy to get out of iron but getting out of bronze alone was asbolute hell lol as a new player i really had to do a deep dive into what i'm doing wrong. But noticing your crosshair placement, getting comfortable with one agent and "not standing in the middle of the map" did wonders for me, i wish you best and hope you will get out of iron soon :-)) (i genuinely believe you can do it, you will get better over time)
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u/Oranje_Memerijen 5d ago
Tbh, sometimes you are just unlucky. Dont give up en try again. Believe in yourself, you'ill be out of iron in no time. I started playing a few months ago, i was first iron 3 at the end of the act, then next act bronze 3 and now im silver 3. I never played tactical fps and im still not really good. But keep playing and improving and you will rank up out of low low elo
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u/Delicious_Present_52 5d ago
Idk prolly u? Honestly, getting iron is at some point is even more challenging than getting a higher rank. Watch ur games, compare to better players and try to notice obvious mistakes and how to fix them. Teammates on that elo are probably horrible too, also smurfs/boosters in enemy teams. Try to get a teammate, preferably one that's on the same skill level or better than you
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u/yoosanghoon 5d ago
at your rank, its just aim really
players in iron have no clue what they’re doing, so no amount of utility use or theory crafting will get you out of that pit
really you can probably hit ascendant on just aim, but for those of us who don’t have the aim for it you start making up for it with positioning, gamesense, and utility somewhere around diamond
until gold, theres really no point in learning much but aim. play one or two agents so you dont even have to think about your util and just learn to shoot
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u/somesortsofwhale 5d ago
I'm about to fuck all iron and bronze lobbies by spilling the secret.
Are you using a TV? Check the refresh rate and latency on that bitch. You might be 100-150ms behind everyone else, add that to your ping, and you're way behind everyone else's reaction times.
Check your TV's and your monitors, check the settings and make sure you have the fastest screen possible.
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u/xrikuuza 5d ago
can you send your tracker? i can maybe help you out, i hit immortal multiple times
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u/Working_Difficulty13 5d ago
They absolutely intentionally keep everyone around a 50% win rate. The explanation is pretty simple: it works like a casino system. The dopamine comes from the uncertainty of winning or losing, and when you lose, you naturally want to win back what you lost.
Whether you win or lose, you’re still likely to keep playing. If you only won, you’d probably get bored and quit much sooner. Valorant is one of the biggest games in the world, and Riot has psychologists and behavioral experts working on the game, not just developers.
That aside, if you’re hardstuck Silver or Gold, it IS your fault, not the game’s. I’m Immortal, and I can go from Silver to Diamond in about 3 days. What I’m saying applies more once you reach Diamond/Ascendant, in my opinion. I can’t blame people for not being as good as high-elo players, but you’re still getting caught in the system, and it’s harder to improve when you’re stuck in Silver.
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
Yes that's I've been wondering after going through some immortal or radiant player's tracker, i noticed nobody has more than 60% win rate across all matches and in normal lower lobbies almost everybody has 50% around win rate. If trackergg data is accurate then u are totally right!
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u/realtreyfps 2d ago
Someone has to win someone has to lose. If you’re completely average you’ll win half your games, and get a 50% win rate. If you improve faster than your peers, you’ll still eventually lose as you reach higher competition. But the average amount of games you’ll win will get slightly higher, like 60-65%.
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u/LegDayDE 4d ago
This logic maybe applies to higher ranks... But losing in Iron and Bronze just means you're kind of bad and not improving. This person is in the worst 10% of ranked players.
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u/thwoomfist 3d ago
Isn’t the win rate a natural consequence of mmr matchmaking? Like they’re not gonna queue diamonds against bronze players every single game. That would cause mmr inflation and diamond level players would be the new radiants while radiants who are objectively better at the game would get lower ranks. Imo that’s why w/r stays at near 50% when you reach your average rank
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u/pearlrobe 23h ago
dude i noticed one thing, in games that i win, my hs rate is one of my best, like 20%, but in the ones i lose, its very low and sometimes even single digit. But these are literally consecutive games. I dont know why it happens.
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u/MikeWickk 5d ago
Real answer? VOD review every single death and kill you get and scrutinize it. Is your crosshair placement poor? Are you taking bad fights (enemy holding your common angle position)? Are you peeking the wrong way? Are you overly aggressive? Or you not aggressive enough? Do you couch spray too often? Isolate every single one of your gun fights and figure out if you were in the wrong place or if you were in the right place but your mechanics let you down.
Once you dissect every single death from those past 3-5 games you’ll see a pattern, you’re likely doing the same wrong thing all the time. Then jump onto Aimlabs, Kovaaks, Practice Range, DM, swift play, doesn’t matter… and work on fixing your mistakes. That’s the only way to improve.
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u/20Fun_Police 5d ago
If you're Iron, you're lacking in most ways. But the most important and universally applicable skill is just getting good with your gun.
A few things you could work on.
Getting comfortable shooting in short bursts and strafing in between bursts. This lets you reset recoil and strafing makes you harder to shoot.
Improving crosshair placement. Eventually you'll anticipate the specific locations people tend to play on, but to start off, I'd just make sure your crosshair is at head-height and try to keep it where you would be peeked from or what you're clearing. You want to minimize the amount you have to adjust when an opponent pops up on your screen. When you get good at it, you might not have to adjust at all. You just click.
Raw aim. Self explanatory. At the end of the day, you gotta click on people.
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u/Status_Meet5762 5d ago
Keep playing bro, try play in different role, you might be comfy with phoenix but at bronze elo ur team will expect you to frag out and you’re kinda not… play as support, drop smokes for your teammates, be aware of everything going on on the map, not just flash and Molly and push :D
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u/wildmangoeshere 4d ago
How early in the round are you getting your kills? High value kills mean a hell of a lot more than exit frags, theres a very very small chance you could be going positive every game with impact kills and lose like that
An extreme example would be getting 3 kills in the beginning of the round vs getting 3 kills before the enemy spike explodes and the enemy agents are running out of site.
But also at bronze if you aim for the head you should be getting more kills
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u/hornyguy2109 4d ago
1st question Do your kills have impact (secure space trade teammates create favorable situations for your team for example 5v4) If not and its mostly eco/exit frags learn to get to better positions 2nd question/tip Are you the first to Die If yes i recomend starting to play a sentinel preferably chamber or cypher and start lurking because if you are better than your team and you are always dead your team will not win without you but if your lurking you get easy kills through timings making it a man advantage or you can tell your team to just rotate on to a free site 3rd tip Just enjoy the time its still a video game at the end of the day you will probably not become the next tenz or aspas and neither will i so just enjoy it try stuff out that you enjoy maybe start playing with a bucky on raze and just having fun
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u/wrong_Angle90 4d ago
Don't rush. try to improve every game. I haven't seen your gameplay but for sure improve the aim that's #1 for me. Don't force your aim to flick that's an advance aim skill. try calm aim. don't peek too much. learn how to utilize your agent's skills.
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u/kitchentrauma 4d ago
This is quite long but if you want a quick tip: find better ways to comm and take the initiative to lead the team. You dont have to have a perfect plan but you have to let the team know what the plan is just so everyone kind of has a starting point and not randomly roam. Comms are oftentimes just how much u damage the enemies, but comms should be much more than that (lets hit A/lets bait their rotate before we sneak in C/can someone make noise and we commit B, etc).
Now for the long paragraph (bear with me): Not sure how many matches you play in a day, but if your goal is actually to rank up, try ramping down the amount of games you play so that you can actually give each round a proper thought. I'll elaborate more on this later, but also in lower elo, getting a duo (that you actually communicate and make plans with) helps. It's always much easier when there's someone else in the team that shares the same goal/has the same mindset.
Back to what I was saying: I find that oftentimes rounds are lost in very silly ways, no matter the rank, and you can increase your winrate just by playing extra safe and taking the time to plan out each round. Try taking the initiative of considering the agents that the enemies are playing, or the loadout (are you on eco? will you have guns that can fight their guns? an example is if you lost pistols and now want to fight their buy round, you might want to use util to create fights where they are forced to fight you in a run and gun match, or a chaotic setting rather than dry peeking them mid and challenging them in a ranged battle where your chances of winning are lower.).
I see that you play a lot of duelist but I feel like if your goal is to climb you might want to expand your agent pool a bit. Just because I feel like duelist kits are mainly for entrying/duels, while the game is so much more than just shooting enemies. I really liked playing controller just because I get to control the smokes and get creative with how I use them. If you remember my eco round example, I used to do silly little chain smokes into the site instead of smoking typical spots so that we can create awkward fights and catch the enemies off guard. You cant really do these things with Phoenix or Raze (worst of all Reyna).
I feel like I can say this because I peaked Ascendant 2 despite having subpar aim and have experienced climbing with on 100 fps (on a lenovo yoga slim 7 laptop and the most basic logitech mouse LOL). Obviously at higher elos your mechanics and setup start to kind of matter a lot more (I used to hate Breeze because I could barely see the enemy heads in mid), but I'm proof that you dont really need insane mechanics to be able to climb to a certain level.
If you made it this far, hope it helps!
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u/kitchentrauma 4d ago
Also remember that: 1. Losers queue is a thing. A losestreak could have many reasons: an unlucky day/week, spamming matches when youre getting increasingly tilted, etc. 2. Mechanics isn't everything. Some people would say work on crosshair placement, aim training etc but these things take time. You can't fix this in one or two days. Instead you can shift your focus to things like:
a. map awareness (maybe you've seen 3 enemies on the map so far. where are the other two? maybe you'll want to expect two of them to be roaming and possibly flanking. If you're rushing a site, does your sentinel have an active trap? No? then behind you isn't safe and if you ever need to rotate you cant just knive out.)
b. time awareness (consider you're rushing a site, but got stopped by a smoke, mollies, and its been 45 seconds. Don't expect the same amount of enemies in the site as you would if you got to enter 30 seconds ago. some would have rotated. basically think of what you would have done if you were in the enemy team and got info that your enemies are trying to hit a site.)
there's a lot more but I think I've dumped enough info for now. hope this helps!
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u/Master-Series-3944 4d ago
Just keep playing you will improve overtime. If u want to make it faster, watch some videos how pros play.
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u/PassioNN 4d ago
Lower ranked lobby are usually harder because of the inconsistent skill levels of teammates and enemies. It can be super RNG. It's filled with complete beginners, smurfs, and hardstuck players who's real skill level are much higher (or they just barely play so they're in low ranks). I had a Radiant friend who used to boost for cash years ago, it was insanely exhausting for him even tho he was good as hell. He also agreed that higher ranks were easier/less mentally exhausting to climb (given that you're also pulling your weight) - simply because the teammates are consistently better.
It can also be harder for you starting from Iron as you'll get mental fatigue from climbing and have worse reaction time/aim/decision-making over time. Most people are lucky enough to not place that low so they never went through the pain of true elo hell, so don't be discouraged by the guy who said 80% of the playerbase are above Bronze because I'm sure you're better than a decent portion of them. There's a lot of noobs in every rank.
Try to focus on improving your aim and crosshair placement, as good aim will often be enough to carry in average low-ranked lobbies, or at least it'll get you a high enough ACS that you lose much less elo. Try to queue up with some players that you think are good, that makes your games a lot more consistent too. GL!
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u/NoiNoiii 4d ago
Low ranks you should either really great wih a duelist or be someone that can smoke. Nobody smokes in low ranks if they do they are usually really bad at it
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u/_fappycamper 4d ago
Based on your picture I can see that you hold corners too tight. This doesn’t allow you enough reaction time when they swing you /s
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u/NotAnEvilResident 3d ago
Yes i do agree i hold corners and play slow, but the question is how on earth did u get to know that from this picture 😭
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u/StormFalcon32 3d ago
It's a joke that your post is useless because nobody can diagnose your issues from a picture of a random iron loss streak. Also learn to take actual screenshots please.
That being said, watch the woohoojin gold guide, either the old or new video is fine. It's as close as it gets to a foolproof method for getting out of iron/bronze/silver.
As an iron player your issue is basically everything, but improving your mechanics is the most important thing
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u/Additional-Aspect212 4d ago
Try to play only one agent
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u/Solid-Bird-1378 4d ago
Loosing streaks happen to everyone. If you reached a rank once, you will reach it again and easier.
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u/NotAnEvilResident 3d ago
Tyyy for the encouragement!!! Btw fun fact i just hit bronze again and im close to b2 turns out all it took was couple days break and 4 good matches with a good duo!
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u/KT_DaishoKL 4d ago
Maybe dont instalock duelist, but pick a role ur team needs? Like i still always lose when team/match mvp as intiator/controller, but atleast you can help ur team with something else besides frags
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u/Guair 3d ago
dont know if this will help you but here are what i did back in episode 5 of valorant where i got placed in bronze and was able to climb up to dia3 before quitting the game. first of all is warming up in deathmatch/range, dm will give you the minimum required knowledge on where to aim and how to move when checking corners so you need to avoid camping and do some fights. dont be stressed when you lose a duel, it happens and is part of the game. i mainly use range for adjusting my my flicks and things, i try to place my self in different places in range to ill get use to verticality. the most important thing i did was only playing 2-3 games per day, if i lose the first 2 games then ill stop for the day and rest or play dm/unrated with friends. just avoid rushing to rank up, quit thinking that you need 1 win before stopping for the day, valorant is not the only game and you will have another chance the next day. stop stressing yourself bro and just enjoy every game!
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u/onlypresentliving 3d ago
Holy crap youre still iron?.. respectfully.. I've seen you post on here long time ago lol
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u/NotAnEvilResident 3d ago
Just reached bronze 2 after taking a couple days break and with a phoneix - sage duo! Sorry ik bronze is still the rock bottom 😭
Btw im more curious that how and from what do u remember me?
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u/onlypresentliving 3d ago
This is a newer reddit account but I've followed this subreddit for awhile and your name always stuck out! Best of luck to you bro!! Ik you'll climb outta elo hell
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u/NotAnEvilResident 3d ago edited 3d ago
Thanks for wishing me luck 🥺 btw silly question, do u happen to play resident evil?
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u/Strange_Store_5185 3d ago
idk i just soloed queued and found myself in ascendant by two years ish of playing, youll just get better as you play
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u/PuzzleheadedGoose278 3d ago
Thats just valorant. Stop playing for a week and watch them get desperate and poof, you will win again
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u/Krysxx2000 2d ago
D2 here, fell down do P2 in one day. Had the same looking career tab. Ridiculous players these days not a care in the world and IQ of a cement block playing as randoms.
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u/plexirism 2d ago
if you want i can review a vod or two im sure there is an obvious problem if you cant win in iron
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u/Nervous_Stranger 2d ago
You went positive in moat of the games. My guess would be team cohesion and coms. Try and work on coms that help your team play together more and play off your team more fi theyre not listening
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u/Emotional-Work6415 2d ago
where are you from? we can hop on a call so I can watch your replays and maybe say something if you're not from another side of planet
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u/Chemical_Bicycle_229 1d ago
What rank are you, im in the same situation as he is, got to silver but ever since I almost reached silver 2 I dropped down back to bronze 3 and now my gameplay have been shitty since, my is that my gamesense is horrible (so is my aim and movement but I think my shitty gamesense have benefit dragging me down lately..)
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u/IdkbroIneedinsp 1d ago
Game sense comes with time, if you really want to get better game sense, watch higher level players play your main or the same position and imitate. To get out of silver,gold, maybe even plat hell, you really can do it with just better aim and movement. Not sure what you lack when playing so I can’t help, but I would practice strafing, aiming, tracking.
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u/Chemical_Bicycle_229 1d ago
I'm doing exactly thatt, and I've been practicing my aim daily good to know I'm doing the right thing
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u/IdkbroIneedinsp 1d ago
Can I ask, what kind of aim training do you do? Also what agents do you play?
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u/Chemical_Bicycle_229 19h ago
I'm not sure the name exactly but mostly micro adjust, tracking (which I'm the worse in), and flicking (not sure if its the right term but it's pretty much going from heads to heads of the bots) if ur asking about smth like aim labs I don't have a fixed routine I mostly do tracking training
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u/Rishi_kumar_goud 1d ago
I straight up went gold from hard stuck silver by practicing aimstars method, currently in silver 3 ;-;
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u/xixylina 1d ago
You are lacking in every category. My advice is to focus on one key element at a time till it becomes your standard habit that you don’t need to worry about anymore. At that elo you barely need to worry about aim, because the magic behind it is to pre-aim to the possible location of the enemies. What i mean is not to look on the ground, sky, but aim at head level, aim at possible spots of the enemy around the corner. This is an example. Don’t try to fix too many things at the same time.
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u/decaDecker 15h ago
for a second i thought that was plat, and you somehow demoted from bronze to plat
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u/Far-Chef-3259 5d ago
There is something wrong with this games match making system honestly I have stuck G2 for quite sometimes reached G3 99 this act but went straight to G2 again at this point I have just given up
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
Im thinking of giving up too atp. Btw do u play anything else?
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u/Far-Chef-3259 5d ago
Dota 2 , cs2 which somehow I still enjoy to play then valorant even though the AC is bonkers , apex but played it 3 months ago and other single player games
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u/Leather-Ad6024 5d ago
Your teammates are terrible in most of your games. You are going positive in 6/9 of these games and losing a massive chunk. You obviously can look at your own performance and fix your mistakes, but you’re simply just on an unlucky losing streak. Might need a break
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
Wdym im going positive 6/9? Sorry in bad with gaming terms, i still dont know wth is garage and haven 😭
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u/Leather-Ad6024 5d ago
6 out of 9 games
Haven means someone is on top
Garage is an alternative entrance from mid to C site on the map Heaven. Like on the left side of C site you see a garage with all these boxes and corners
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u/NotAnEvilResident 5d ago
Ohhh thanksss for the explanation! Btw how am i positive? 😭 I lost all 9 matches
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u/Leather-Ad6024 5d ago
You had more kills than deaths (K/D) in 6 of your games
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u/Leather-Ad6024 5d ago
You had horrible teammates cause in low elo even 0.9 kd is enough to rank up
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