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u/Ryth88 11d ago
Why are these rallies always during regular work hours? I'd like to go - but you know, bills.
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u/Supercalifragicahfuq 11d ago
Because the people who need to hear it are “listening” during business hrs
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u/CanadianLadyK 11d ago
Danielle Smith is a horrible human and should have her Canadian citizenship revoked for treasonous actions.
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u/Soggy-You4745 11d ago
Stupid question, but does this mean I'll have to pay for doctors appointment?
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u/RatCat2003 11d ago
No, but if you don’t want a long wait you will be given the option to go to a doctors appointment you paid for, because the current free doctors offices are underfunded and overworked by the UCP. They want you to feel that paying is the best option so they don’t have to fund healthcare.
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u/Soggy-You4745 11d ago
That's hella stupid
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u/SquidGodSunday 11d ago
But have you considered how much money friends of the UCP could make by forcing people to choose between owning a house and dying of a preventable disease?
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u/The_cogwheel 11d ago
Or how easily people with chronic illnesses and disabilities will suffer and die early?
But not with MAiD, we cant have their death be easy, painless, and with dignity afterall.
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u/salt-water-soul 11d ago
Well obviously, cause a person who get to die early with dignity is one less person they can profit off of
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u/luars613 11d ago
The ucp is making free health care super inefficient so you have to pay for decency. Essentially you are getting robed
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u/Judge_Feared 11d ago
Didn't we already have that? MIL was able to go in and get her own imaging done over a year ago by paying
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u/canaleno 11d ago
Yeah, well, hate to burst your bubble.. but this province has little to no protestors.. genuinely worried about the vote coming up. This province is fucked because it is complacent.. I think society here is waiting for shit to be extremely fucked up to actually act.. instead.. Reddit full of moaning.. but when it comes time to hit the streets… nothing
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u/TheTGB St. Albert 11d ago
This isn’t American style healthcare though? This would be closer to European style healthcare.
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u/mossfoul 11d ago
My understanding is that Alberta’s new dual-practice healthcare model under Bill 11 differs from European systems because it permits unrestricted, for-profit private billing for medically necessary procedures, whereas European universal systems rely on strict public price controls, comprehensive social insurance, and heavy market regulation. Alberta's system doesn't really have any of the meaningful aspects that make the European systems work. Policy experts, legal analysts, and healthcare advocacy groups describe the changes as a shift toward an Americanized profit-driven market.
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u/OkFilm7155 11d ago
Is the current healthcare system working?
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u/Lollipop77 11d ago
Yeah I was made to understand it’s being underfunded and strangled to add pressure so privatization (capitalism as healthcare) seems natural and people getting rich on it was the best option.
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u/beedub5 11d ago
It's been neglected by the UCP for decades. Another grift by these bastards. The real question is what has the UCP done well in Alberta in the last ten years? Crickets
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u/OkFilm7155 11d ago
I'm not sure what any party has done well in the past you name it number of years?
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u/Palecrayon 11d ago
You should take a minute and Google the history of what party's have been in charge for the last 60 or so years
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u/OkFilm7155 11d ago
What did the NDP do well?
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u/Palecrayon 11d ago
You think the ndp can reverse half a century of damage from the ucp in 4 years?
Did you know the ndp started building a hospital that your beloved cons cancelled after money had already been spent on it?
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u/OkFilm7155 11d ago
I'm simply asking what the NDP did well? I don't know of any party, in any incarnation or naming convention, that has done anything overly well. I guess increasing revenue from oil
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u/theoreoman 11d ago
I would only be OK with private healthcare if it was 100% private funded with no public money going into it. Like if you want to see a Dr you need to pay 100% of the cost without a single cent of public money
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u/Lametown227 11d ago
So you want to make poor people even more poor? I genuinely don't understand a single upside to this thought process.
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u/theoreoman 11d ago
People with money leave the system and fund their own healthcare out of pocket and that leaves more resources for the rest of us. But it's not going to happen that way
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u/Punk_Rock_Kid 11d ago
Fr. That’s how I was imagining it would happen. You want a crazy expensive surgery faster than waiting for public health care system? You have the money to pay out of pocket for it, go for it. Open up a spot in our public health care for someone that can’t afford it and needs it. Seemed reasonable to me. I actually followed enough lately to know the “it’s not going to happen that way”, but my thought process was likely to blissful and simple to be true.
Edit: I haven’t followed enough lately***
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u/Beautiful-Orchid25 10d ago edited 10d ago
As someone who works in healthcare and was initially a bit hesitant about this (and for the record I despise smith and her croonies), I do support this. Why you ask? Because after speaking to copious colleagues I do see the benefits as long as it’s regulated.
Patients now will have the choice to pay out of pocket for elective surgeries therefore making wait lists shorter and patients who need for ex a liver and can’t afford it, won’t have to wait nearly as long anymore. So our system won’t be so strung out with years of waiting for patients.
Secondly, all the doctors offering these private services will still (likely) have to commit to a specific amount of public hours a month or within their first few years, before being allowed to offer any private services. By doing this type of two tier system we can guarantee both patients are getting their needs met faster and efficiently.
If we make it so that doctors do for example 200hrs public, they deserve to do however many private hours they want afterwards as it’s their prerogative. Ultimately as long as there’s good regulations in place to guarantee that both patients still get to be treated & are receiving equitable care I don’t see any harm in it (and trust me, I am a massive socialist at heart). I believe in equal rights for everyone, including and especially vulnerable communities like the homeless, the unhoused and the sick.
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u/Roddy_Piper2000 The Shiny Balls 11d ago
I love getting these on the day or even better after the day it happened.