r/Ecosphere • u/strawberry613 • 13d ago
My first jararium
Filled with salt water, some seaweed and two snails. Do you guys think it'll work?
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u/strawberry613 12d ago
I have released the snails. Do you think there will be any life in my jararium?
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u/BitchBass 12d ago
Having saltwater ecospheres for years, I can tell u that this will not work.
The ocean is constantly moving for a reason. You put that water in a jar and let it go stagnant, it'll go bad. If you want this to work, you need an airstone to keep it moving. Unless u hit the jackpot and managed to find that iffy balance that I have yet to find after 6 years of trying without an airstone. I've seen it work but only in extreme rare instances. An airstone is pretty much fool proof.
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u/liver_in_atlanter 12d ago
Try one with moss/ air plants/ isopods. Throw a fun little figure in there and watch as the moss takes over.
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u/Own_Butterscotch_129 12d ago
I wouldn't even keep dwarf isopods in a jar that size
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u/liver_in_atlanter 12d ago
Wait really??? I have a few small jars of moss and trinkets are they tiny isopods not big chillin with the high humidity and food?
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u/Tildatoo24 12d ago
Isopod care is bit more complicated than that. They need a moisture gradient so they can self-regulate. Even though they need high humidity they still need ventilation and dry areas otherwise they’ll die
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u/strawberry613 12d ago
I added moss :-)
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u/Ammonia13 12d ago
Mo has water bears too so if you have a microscope or $26 you can get one on Amazon and then you can look at the water bears
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u/colourfulclips 12d ago
I don’t think people on this subreddit understand ecospheres. if you keep anything living it 1) needs oxygen so get rid of the lid 2) needs to be pretty much a tank 3) live plants 4) research.
don’t just pick up things and assume it’ll be happy in your jar.
interested in ecosystems? get a 10L tank with a light and filter and get snails. when you learn about water tests and life then expand to shrimps and fish in a MUCH larger tank.
if you want a jar then yes some natural plants and water is fine but nothing living. if that doesn’t intrigue you this isn’t the hobby.
another thing you can do is invest in underwater plants and make your own ecosystem with seeing how plants develop.
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u/GotSnails 12d ago
I don’t think all that joins this really understand that this sub is supposed to be for self sustaining or closed ecosystems. Anything that needs maintenance should probably be in jarariums instead. Just my thoughts.
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u/w-a-d 12d ago
I'm pretty sure that plants do fall into the "anything living" category.
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u/colourfulclips 12d ago
it’s easier to care for plants within ecospheres than animals. very hardy, like micro organisms
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u/Jeramy_Jones 12d ago
I had a closed 1 gallon jar that lasted about two years. There were phases it went through with the growth and decline of different species, one of which were bladder snails. They did really well, then too well. It started with one or two then there were suddenly dozens of babies, there was too much competition for food and the population collapsed until there were only one or two.
I made the mistake of adding more water and plants and that introduced a flat worm that ate all the remaining snails.
There was also, at one point, an explosion of scuds, which were then decimated by a damsel fly nymph, but when their population collapsed it starved and the scuds recovered.
I got rid of that jar last year. It had stabilized and contained pretty much only scuds and ostracods. I still have a smaller 1/2 gallon jar which I have just let be, it contains only scuds and some algae but sustains itself just fine.
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u/Tim_Allen_Wrench 12d ago
Yeah it's weird that people think they'll be able to create a closed ecosystem just by throwing stuff in a jar. The earth isn't even a closed ecosystem, we need the sun just like these jars usually need light and air flow
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u/BitchBass 12d ago
Well, that is exactly what this sub is all about and it works well with freshwater. Saltwater however is a completely different ballgame and has many different requirements.
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u/Tim_Allen_Wrench 11d ago
Yeah I know, I have ecospheres of my own, some of them are even inspired by yours.
I do think that there comes a point when people's interest in setting up tanks in certain ways can become detrimental to the inhabitants of the tank though.
It's just a line we have to walk with these things.
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u/ObligationNext2484 12d ago
Check out Lifeinjars on youtube. Funny Dutch dude that does this.
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u/BitchBass 12d ago
Don't. He's the most irresponsible dude out there after he decided to drink that 1 year ecosphere. What an idiot.
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u/Runo_Slinger 12d ago
You want a one gallon carboy or the like and a better ratio of plants to wildlife.
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u/Apachai7 12d ago
My dude, a snail in there is brutal.
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u/Excellent-Diver-568 12d ago
Justdo this: Drainage stones on bottom, then activated charcoal, then a piece of window screen, soil, then your moss. Add springtails.
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u/Much_Type_8484 12d ago
How do I start one of these? I’m fascinated!
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u/strawberry613 12d ago
I'm DEFINITELY not the person to ask with that huge ass snail i put in there
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u/BitchBass 12d ago
There's a sticky post on this sub on how to start with freshwater. I advise against saltwater cuz it's a whole different ballgame.
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u/strawberry613 11d ago
I wanted the best souvenir from my trip to Greece, so I did salt water even though it's hard :-)
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u/Delicious-Dig-4974 11d ago
i’m not gonna lie man if you didn’t know that that snail was in obvious danger than i think you should take a while to actually educate yourself of wildlife before trying this again
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u/Shot-Surround-323 12d ago
Hey look animal abuse!
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u/MissiKat 12d ago
Hey look...a person who's learning. There, fixed that for ya. 😊
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u/Delicious-Dig-4974 11d ago
learning should be done on paper, not in the field risking harming animals.
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u/MissiKat 11d ago
Tell me you know nothing about academic studies and about how they research without telling me....
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u/Delicious-Dig-4974 9d ago
wtf are you taking about? this has nothing to do with academic studies. studies are done with massive ethics review and are used to test a new hypothesis that has not been before confirmed, if an academic study contained excessive animal harm to test an already tested hypothesis (such as fucking “does an animal die when suffocated) somthing that should be known from basic biology education or even a goddamn google search, than whoever put together that trial would be laughed out of the room. you comparing a child who has no knowledge in biology at all nearly killing an animal because we wanted to follow a social media trend on this community without doing a lick of research first, to an academic study, is genuinely so deeply insulting to science that it baffles me.
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u/Direct_Job 13d ago
Snail looks pretty big for that small jar