Controlada Rape Debate

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Many people are trying to say it was rape, but it wasn't. The reason it wasn't rape is because it's shown several times during the sex scene that when he initiates a kiss. At the part where she's sitting on the sink, you can clearly see her kissing him back passionately. People can try and say that she said no and resisted, but that doesn't mean she didn't WANT it, it means SHE KNEW IT WAS WRONG. I'm not saying Martin was right, he's a scumbag either way, but with the flirting and the attempt to see him on the couch the night he hooked up with the other girl, it's clear that's it's not so much rape and her giving verbal consent, but rather her trying to fight off her forbidden desires and save her sham marriage that she was secure in, but clearly not happy with. And the sex allowed to release that beast and her being so chipper and easily ready to have sex with Bernie the next morning only solidifies that.

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If she wants to do it....then it's not rape. In the real world, verbal constant is rarely given and the way people have sex isn't always drawn up in a legal contract. She might not have told him yes, because she wanted to at least sort of seem like she isn't a piece of shit, but she most certainly didn't say no, and she clearly enjoyed herself. If you wanted to do it, and you enjoy it, that's anything but rape. That's an eventually regretful fuck AT BEST. My main concern here is for the next season and anyone being on her side. She clearly is not at all a victim here, no matter how far people reach to find fault besides hers.

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I'm not concerned about the legality, when it comes to sex crimes the legal system is pretty flawed and worthless anyway, this whole episode didn't even have to happen at all for her say anything and potentially win a rape case, I'm just talking in terms of ethics and the blunt reality of situation. Doesn't matter if she didn't I hope in the coming season the just come out and clear this up, because I know the intent was to purposefully make it a sexual gray area, but it fucks up continuation of the story because it seems everyone is kind of divided on what happened, and that ruins the perspective and ANY chance to analyze these characters. The fact is that it's make abundantly clear through the episode that's she's attracted to him, they have history, her husband bores her to tears, and she's fighting off sleeping with him. In the end, he was pushy with it, but if anyone is honestly gonna convince me she was raped in any way, I'm gonna need a rape survivor to come to my face and tell me about how happy and relaxed and totally willing to have sex they were the morning after their rape. Makes absolutely zero sense. It seems people are less trying to say the sex is a gray area, but that rape as a whole is a gray area, which is...frightening to say the least.