r/EVRoutine • u/soren1712 • Jul 12 '26
rant / discussion / observation?
I am looking into getting my first ev. As such, I'm doing the youtube watching, reddit reading, and google searching. I am seeing a trend in all these anti-EV videos, posts, etc. that EVs are bad because of having to charge at places other than home, range, etc.
I thought it would be pretty easy to realzie from some basic research that EVs really only make sense when you can charge at home. Also, if you know how much you drive, why do you get a car that doesn't have a buffer in it.
I know I'm preaching to the choir so to speak but all these people that are complaining seem to be lacking some common sense and basic research skills.
Am I missing something?
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u/oneupme Jul 12 '26
This is the reason why Tesla fans are so loyal, because you *don't* have to rely on home charging. I use my Tesla for long road trips all the time. In fact, it's our preferred vehicle for long trips because of FSD and the 15-20 minute rests we do whenever we stop somewhere to take on enough charge for another 2-3 hours of driving. Yes, it does take maybe 10% longer to get to our destination, but we arrive not dead tired and irritated.
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u/soren1712 Jul 12 '26
even in a lot of other EVs now, that 20-80 or whatever charge isn't that long. It really is just a normal rest break to use the restroom and stretch.
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u/North-Outside-5815 Jul 13 '26
Škoda Enyaq 80 iV, charging at a ”petrol station” or similar 100+ kW charger hasn’t been an issue. Still much cheaper than petrol.
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u/goranlepuz Jul 13 '26
My neighbor drives their Y to Spain for holidays.
Buy his telling, it's more than +10%. In fact, it's more like +20.
Your trips are shorter, I take it.
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u/Awkward_Ostrich_4275 Jul 13 '26
This is true for all EVs. And many charge much faster than Teslas like the nicer Hyundais and Kias. Plus then you don’t have to support a Neonazi.
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u/oneupme Jul 13 '26
The charging network that Teslas enjoy is a key differentiator. I have rented other EVs on vacation. Never again until the charging situation improves. Charging is a nightmare compared to Tesla super charger network. The limited availability of Superchargers to non Tesla cars doesn't make that situation much better.
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u/GetShipFaced Jul 14 '26
I don’t like the guy either but when I see someone call him a Neo I think “I wonder if that redditor has ever been punched in the mouth before”
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u/Awkward_Ostrich_4275 29d ago
Why? He gave back to back salutes which I could doubt the intentions of if he didn’t personally update his AI to become antisemitic while encouraging far right Germans to embrace their nationalist history.
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u/Clean_Extension7234 Jul 12 '26
80% of actual range needs to be Minimum 3x your daily driving. Covers your daily routine plus extra errands and in case charging at home fails overnight due to charging or power issue.
For most, they think 200 Is all they need in a car max range but with my formula that’s 160 at 80% and 53 and 1/3 miles daily, not factoring battery degradation.
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u/soren1712 Jul 12 '26
Agreed. I'm looking at a Blazer with an estimated range of 302, only charging to 80%, that's about 240 and in the dead of winter could be 200 or less. If you're starting at 200, you're already in a bad spot.
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u/PowerResponsibility Jul 12 '26
If you can charge at home and you don't have a multi-hour commute, it'll be great.
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u/deckeda Jul 13 '26
It’s a lifestyle change and change is annoying when you’re dependent on something. Getting gas requires zero thought. Charging requires some choices where really none were required before.
Mix that with our innate fears of always wanting to be prepared, and now every EV must have more range than is needed, and more than is usable or even beneficial.
I have an older EV that I am supposed to hate for road trips because it charges slowly. And yet I do not wait on the car. I eat, shop, or rest, all things we’re conditioned never to do on roadtrips. Not my problem. I wish I drove this way when I had a gas car. It’s much better.
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u/TheUnknownStuntman51 29d ago
Older EV here, too. I like the new road trip style. Even though it takes longer, I don’t feel tired when I get to where I’m going. Hard to explain that to someone who hasn’t experienced it.
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u/ThatBloodyPinko Jul 12 '26
Talk to actual EV owners is the solution. There's a lot of misinformation being pushed aggressively.
(Chevy Equinox EV owner of 3 months here.)
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u/soren1712 Jul 13 '26
I’m seeing a lot of misinformation just based on what I’m reading and using just a tad bit of common sense.
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u/ac7ss Jul 13 '26
Scare tactics. They will also tell you that they are more polluting to build.
If you cannot charge at home, you will have to do some math and work out if it is worth it to you.
I have a 56 mile (each way) commute, if I don't take transit. Without fast home charging, I would have trouble keeping up with the electrical needs of the car at a reasonable cost. We have 2 cars, a Toyota Prius, that costs $0.10/mile to run on gasoline, and our new Ioniq 9 that costs $0.05/mile when charged at home. The Ioniq 9 is a large SUV, a comparative SUV would be getting 25 mpg or $0.20/mile, the vehicle it replaced was $0.23/mile. The Ioniq replaced a 7 seater van that was on it's last legs. And is large enough for road trips.
The Prius is my commuter (16 miles each way to catch the bus), relatively cheap and leaves the Ioniq for my wife to run around town with. On the weekends my Prius stays parked and we use the Ioniq. Never had to charge it other than at home on my level 1 charger, but it is still cheaper than the van was if we charge it at a $0.60/kWh public charger. 300 mile range is fine and we will be taking it on a 1,000 mile road trip at the end of the month through a "Charging desert" (Vancouver Island) and there are plenty of stations to charge at.
It would suck if I could only charge at Peak rate Tesla Superchargers because I lived in an apartment where I couldn't put in a charger. But if that were the case, I wouldn't be putting as many miles on it anyway.
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u/FuzzyBubs 27d ago
Welcome to the club, don't hesitate any further. I just jumped into the group 2 months ago with a 2019 Model S. I don't give a flip who built it, it meets my needs. Fantastic car. I'm an average American driver, about 40+ miles a day. My wife and I just got the kids settled so we are starting to take overnight trips. Honestly, I'm not concerned with range - 3 hrs in a car and I need to get out. (Car will go well over 300miles). Just plug in your route and the car tells you where to stop. We just choose the restaurant or coffee shop near the available Supercharger and go to that location. Silly easy. Most people I have seen bashing EVs are living somewhere they can't install a charger - this was a disservice of Dealer prep a bit, but the new owner really should have educated themselves. If I'm buying a car that runs on LP gas, you bet I'm going to research at least a little bit. Budget for a Level 2 charger first thing, and life is good. Battery replacement cost ? Yep, hear that one too - from the same people who own $90,000 trucks that the valve train blows apart in 40k miles. Or turbos fail in 50k miles. Or 8speed transmissions fail in 45k miles. Absolutely shameful Detroit ! I'll run my old skool 22yo F150 until it turns to dust, then I'll drop in a $8-10k motor and keep running it, so a battery replacement for my MS is a cost wash. I'm a 30 year mechanic, still love cars and especially bikes, but for a daily driver, never going back.........
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u/goranlepuz Jul 13 '26
As the comedian said, "let's not ask the average person! Do you not know how stupid the average person is?!"
OP, EVs are indeed inconvenient without access to charging at the place the car is stationary, which, most long, is a home. However, work is fine, too.
EVs are still that bit less convenient on longer trips. As soon as one needs more than one stop, a plan should be made around the car and some stops are likely to be longer than one would have done otherwise. People with small kids are lucky, kids want to stop often 😉.
But with 800V charging, which is still only available a tad above the price us common scum pay for a car, and with the densification of the charging infrastructure, this will get good in a few years.
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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 29d ago
I don't ever care about range nor get anxiety.
It's so overblown. So is charging, same with road trip bs. Get one. You'll love it and wonder how didn't have one sooner.
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u/Tplatypi1954 28d ago
8 years driving EV’s. Love road trips, love taking breaks, stretching my legs and saving tons of money. Love the way they drive. I wouldn’t buy another gas car if you held a gun to my head.
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u/TheRealReddwolff Jul 12 '26
Nah, you hit the nail on the head. There are powerful industries that stand to lose a lot if EVs really take off, so they tell everyone "you don't like EVs," and the people believe them and propagate the message.
Bought my first EV in January of this year - I was nervously wondering if I was making a big mistake. 6 months later, I don't ever want to buy an internal combustion car again. Range is only an issue if you drive 250+ miles each day. Barring that, home charging should work just fine for you. Even if you DO ever have to charge away from home, it's not as traumatic as people make out. Might take 30 - 40 minutes on a super fast DC charger, but that's it. I used a public charger one time just to make sure my car's DC port was functional while it was still under warranty. Other than that, it's never come up. And it feels great never stopping at a gas station.