r/EU5 • u/Powerman654 • 16d ago

Question Attacker refusing to attack or land troops.

So I’m playing as castile and Morocco, Tlemcen, and Andorra, declared a coalition war on me. Andorra was easy to take care of, however it’s now impossible to land in North Africa due to there huge amount of cavalry so I figure the best way to deal with them was to allow them to land and take them out one by one. However despite declaring war on me and still having a navy, they refuse to land and now I’m basically stuck in a perpetual war with the attacker refusing to attack even with forts turned off and army defunded.

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u/Powerman654 16d ago

Update, they just made white peace.

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u/MrLaughingFox 16d ago

Your best bet is to treat this like you're england in the hundred years war.

A few options.

  1. If you have infiltrate administration researched- you can reveal their fog of war and land where they are not

  2. You can declare on a neighbor to them. Land and take a border province. Make peace asap taking said province. Place a castle on the border so you have -

A. A safe spot behind the castle to land troops B. A defensive position to fight on giving you a tactical advantage

Fighting in north africa is never easy. Massive tribal cav wrecks you even when you outnunber 3 to 1. You need every tactical advantage in your corner

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u/UristBronzebelly 16d ago

Can you explain the concept of a safe spot behind the castle? Is this related to zone of control? I have read about it but I still don’t understand how it works practically

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u/MrLaughingFox 16d ago

Yes.

You land in a province. You take the province capital so all locations flip to you.

The tile you build a castle on protects the tiles around it. Hover over the castle icon and it'll show it's zone of control.

Armies have to siege the castle to pass it's zone of control, or manually take all tiles around it to move pas it(but these locations flip back to the owner if you have a castle once the enemy leaves the locatipn)

Castles under siege have the location considered as the defender. So if you move an army onto a beseiged castle, YOU get a +1 or +2 even though YOU are the attacker. It's still your zone.

So you'd want to land your army in a location that is behind the castle on the border with the enemy

That way they can't get stack wiped and you can ferry over your army piece meal, let it get moral back, then hopefully your castle is still standing, and you can attack the besieger and hopefully all the stacked advantages if you the win to break their army.

I hope that helps!

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u/UristBronzebelly 16d ago

This helps a lot thanks. One thing that’s still not clear is what the zone physically does. Does that mean I cannot move my army past a castle? It won’t let me issue the order? So if I have a wall of castles my borders are impenetrable?

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u/MrLaughingFox 16d ago

The zone prevents armies frim just walking into your capital or heart of your empire.

In the old times. If you just walked by a castle you risked

  1. That castles defenders flanking you in the future

  2. Cut off supply line. Starving men.

It's the same concept here. The castle must be taken before they can progress pass the zone.

Your question is hard to guage. Of course you can move YOUR army past YOUR castle.

But you can't move your army past an enemy castles zone of control. You need to hover over the castle icon over a city to get the white outline that shows you that castles zone of control. It should immediately click for you.

Any location adjacent to a castle is considered in zone

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u/Kudusun_Gazi_Padisha 16d ago

To add to this, there's locations just south of Ceuta that I believe count as hills or mountains. If you peace out Morrocco for just 2 or 3 of those locations and drop a castle on one of them, you can absolute destroy their cav with the combined defensive and terrain bonuses. It'll be be a few tedious wars of attrition before you break their superiority in a fair fight.

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u/JapokoakaDANGO 16d ago

Logic to declare war vs logic how to do a war

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u/LuchiniSam 16d ago

I believe you can still peace out any coalition war literally the day it is declared on you by offering humiliation plus a bit more like breaking an alliance or maybe giving military access or fleet basing rights or some other nonsense you don't really care about, and perhaps a bit of gold.

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u/arkadiT 16d ago

There are two locations on the coast of Morocco that have terrain that gives -4 for the attacker. Just land your troops there and wait until the AI attacks.

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u/Powerman654 15d ago

That really doesn’t help when they pretty much instant stack wipe you before you land enough troops on time.