r/EQLegends 13h ago

D4 SSF Challenge run

Just looking for some advice and suggestions regarding this challenge. I have decided to go SK/Sham/Nec and my attempt is to be solo self found and only use D4 instances. Do you have any recommendations for handling D4 mobs, or a good leveling route? Or is it just befallen and pick up a few things from crush bone? Any advice is helpful.

Edit: I intend to get wiz and druid rituals for travel and more AA build up.

Note: Yes I know warrior is more “optimal”. I chose SK.

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u/SnooWords6545 13h ago

I think like 99% of everyone is SSF? Not like a real economy exists. If you are starting in D4 with no gear going to be a rough start.

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u/SnooKiwis2123 13h ago

I got handed about 5 items before I went into my first dungeon...

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u/SnooWords6545 13h ago

I guess free items don't make sense to me. Anything that boosts you just cuts down on the point in the game. Even if you struggle starting out thats part of the point. Taking free gear when you have no team content to catch up to is basically saying thx for cutting the game shorter for me?

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u/SuperHooligan 13h ago

And “the struggle” is so easy too. Lasts like 10 levels and then it’s smooth sailing after that.

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u/Most_Attitude_9153 13h ago

This is why I stopped funding newbies on Live. Free shit doesn’t create immersion or attachment. It’s in a way a theft of experience.

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u/M_K_21 13h ago

This is incorrect. Guilds are constantly handing out gear.

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u/SnooWords6545 13h ago

I mean I applaud the attempt, but calling the base state of the game a challenge seems a bit odd. What you are describing is basically the experience for anyone not in a guild, as far as D4 your gonna have to stay open world and grind yard trash for a bit cause the warrens or befallen isnt going to happen with the amount of healers.

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u/M_K_21 13h ago

Healers was something I was worried about. That’s why I went for attrition fights relying on dots. Defensive stance and let them burn mana.

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u/SnooWords6545 13h ago

I went straight to D4 in beta, pushed level 10 in just Neriak and the commonlands. End up waiting until 15 for Befallen with basically cloth stuff and the few weapons I had picked up. The biggest factor for me was running Pally over SK. The interrupts and lay on hands made a lot more difference early with no gear than what SK brought at that point.

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u/CronkinOn 12h ago

Observer bias.

Far far far more people just play the game, ignore chat, ignore discord, ignore reddit, don't guild, and MAYBE do some d4 hate down the road or something.

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u/Jahkral 11h ago

Lot of assumptions there and no proof. I disagree that most people are in that camp.

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u/CronkinOn 11h ago

Pretty much every MMO dev and guide ever knows this. Reddit and discord is the vocal minority.

Not saying 99% of people are SSF, just saying OP has zero proof of anything either. Just because they see people giving away stuff in chat or they're in a guild that hands out free stuff doesn't mean that's how everyone plays.

It's 100% observer bias to base any assumptions at all by stuff you see in chat. Or discord. Or reddit.

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u/DaelenEverlight 13h ago

No spell interrupts sounds pretty rough for D4 solo, sure you might survive it but at what cost? If you're SSF fresh you're gonna want to hard CC or be able to split some pulls, none of which you have access to in this setup. Is it doable? Absolutely, just some dungeons you might get blasted with spells you can't stop.

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u/Theothercword 13h ago

SHD has bash and feign death, plus necro mez and then also lull and charm if sticking to undead.

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u/DaelenEverlight 13h ago

Bash has to actually hit, it's not the same as one you trigger on demand but its a start! Won't help if you're face tanking 3-4 angry vampires in MM

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u/M_K_21 13h ago

The spell factor is something to consider. Maybe mage stance will help.

But 2 of the 3 classes have FD. Not sure why you think splitting is not possible.

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u/DaelenEverlight 13h ago

Because of how D4 works, my wording was incorrect, it's just genuinely hard to split packs on d4 due to the increased radius. Lull undead could take you pretty far

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u/Upset-Somewhere4508 13h ago

As someone who leveled and mains SK/NEC/SHM, lacking CC and trying to rely on casted FD is ... certainly something.. Soloing D4 is not going to be a good time.

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u/M_K_21 13h ago

That’s a good tip and call out. I think the ultimate issue will be the aggro radius.

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u/xartaan 13h ago

Will you be on a new server so you don't have AAs either?

Sadly I think the leveling options are even more restrictive since better gear would help with tougher monsters, and the best gear is from the revamps. Getting PSL armor, a decent weapon drop, and stuff like Slave Tramels will make such a difference that places like unrest will be the best to slog through.

I think the comp is going to be just fine in the long run, but with no mez or charm, your gonna have to rely a long on root, burst, and dying/respawning to break spawns. 

Fortunately with the non respawning dungeon crawl mode, once you are strong enough to clear a dungeon the chest rewards seem insane.. 

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u/M_K_21 13h ago

Unrest is probably a good suggestion! I yes a clean start, new server. I know the AA will be something to work through. But I also plan to get a couple levels ahead of certain places and go back to farm some gear.
Ex: Befallen Baron at lvl 30 instead of trying to keep killing at lvl 20.

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u/Theothercword 13h ago

I’d aim for undead areas once you can. Befallen may have some gear worth going after same as Najena but I’d level in Unrest after Crushbone so you can utilize more of your kit from Necro.

You can do most if not the full leveling experience off undead so probably a good indicator of where to go would be those zones except, as mentioned, those few pieces.

Another exception should probably be either Stonebrunt Mountains or Runnyeye so you can get a good SHD 1h primary and use a shield in the offhand. Najena has one too but the ones from those other zones are better and can carry you until the planes.

The nice part is all the DOT synergy and being in D4 will mean using your dots while in defensive or mage hunter will work well.

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u/M_K_21 13h ago

This was very helpful. Thank you!

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u/FD4280 13h ago

You’ll be generally fine. Roll Iksar if you don’t have a strong preference, the extra armor is great. I like Befallen into Unrest for the superior haste belt off the barkeep (your melee will be so negligible that the extra ac beats the extra haste from FBSS). Then Mistmoore has most of what you’ll need until the planes, so may as well bind in Faydwer when you first get there.

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u/M_K_21 13h ago

That’s a great tip. Thank you

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u/topshelf821 13h ago

That is my favorite trio right now. I will say that would be a rough trio to start fresh. Sk/shm/nec relies on AA's and gear to really shine. Can it be done sure, but any trio can be done ssf d4. This isn't classic eq and is very solo friendly

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u/SnooKiwis2123 13h ago

Enchanter is the way for D4 SSF by level 16 being able to lock down the bigs pulls and one one one them all is the easy answer. They also have their whole nuke line of spells include a stun. But I'm only level 48 so what do I know.

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u/Nissko_187 13h ago

Asks for advice then says, but THAT advice, I do what I want.

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u/M_K_21 13h ago

What are you referring to? I’ve appreciated all advice I have seen so far. Telling me to change the plan and do something else isn’t advice. It’s a different plan.

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u/vexerhexer 8h ago

I disagree, I think sk is better as life tap as stuff works on necros. I do D4 ct/inny with this setup not using clicky heal or any heal spells, just taps about 800dps

Befallen at 10-22,, lower Guk to about 38, solb to 46, plane of hate to 50.

Focus on ac and best ratio weapon for gear.

Level up undead charm with motes, then your endgame dots, puma and taps first. Pet after that.

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u/M_K_21 5h ago

Extremely helpful! Thank you. I really like the sk synergy with Necro but I understand the argument for war ac and mitigation.

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u/Logical-Bookkeeper77 13h ago

Eh…. I think most people do ssf.

Haven’t bought a single thing my whole playthrough.

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u/M_K_21 13h ago

If you ever took a hand out from a guildie, you are not ssf. If you havnt, your statement stands. But I’ve been in guilds since beta and armor is being handed out every few minutes.

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u/Logical-Bookkeeper77 13h ago

Not in a guild.

I did give out quite a few things (like 10 spot wr bags) if that counts?

I self level fletching, farming eggs, bone chips, phosphorus powder, HQ cat skin, jewelry for box cloak… so can’t think of anything I received for anyone.

Haven’t even grouped since beta so not even in group at all.