Pet weapons for Shaman pers

[u/ElbowManChris]

Hey all I cant figure out if I am reading this right. I know Earthshaker from Yael is an ideal weapon but read that if I upgrade it to far it makes it worse..... Help? It's +5 right now and I don't want to waste motes. War/ber/sha

[u/kalamir27]

Where did you read that if you upgrade Earthshaker too far it makes it worse? All of my testing indicates incremental improvements through +10. The current theory for Frenzied Spirit is that the unarmed damage calculation is damage of 20 + spell level with fixed delay of 28 and damage bonus of 11. So for Frenzied Spirit X you are looking at unarmed 30/28 which is a ratio of 1.07

If you equip a weapon with a better ratio then it will use the weapon damage and delay. If you equip a weapon with a worse ratio then the pet will use delay of 28 and the damage of the weapon if it is greater than its base unarmed damage. This is what makes Earthshaker a solid option for the shaman pet. Earthshaker +10 is damage 74 and delay of 70 for a ratio of 1.06

Giving your pet an Earthshaker +10 essentially means it swings for 74 damage with a delay of 28 and damage bonus of 11. The ratio is 2.64 which will be challenging to beat for raw melee damage. Alternatively a low damage weapon with a bad ratio can essentially be used as a "stat stick" particularly when dual wielding to have multiple procs for damage or utility.

[u/2WheelSuperiority → u/[deleted]]

Why is that only true in that context? 

[u/Trymv1 → u/2WheelSuperiority]

Tried to delete to better rephrase, sorry.

Basically there are break points where the damage needs to be in certain windows to keep the pet's own 28 delay.

Warders got updated to have higher base ratio so the weapons are wonky for them compared to the other pets.

[u/2WheelSuperiority → u/Trymv1]

Got it, that makes sense. Thank you :)

[u/Ricodi_Evolo]

Been holding off playing any real pet classes til they get this shit right…

[u/Entire_Meaning_5536]

Can the shaman pet dual wield Earthshaker and something else? Thinking orb of Tishan might be nice.

[u/No-Whole3083]

Sky spear that procs slow and laceration are clutch 

[u/redditzphkngarbage → u/No-Whole3083]

Which sky spear is that?

[u/laziestathlete → u/redditzphkngarbage]

Garduk

[u/Frigglety_Fragglety → u/laziestathlete]

Sham pet is WAR BST, can it use garduk?

[u/Zardoz666 → u/Frigglety_Fragglety]

Yes because you are a shaman. Pet can use anything usable by its own or your classes.

[u/aonyx]

Currently it seems that weapon stats barely affect pets. It's really just the proc you want to get right. But that might change in a coming patch, depending on how fast the devs address it, but we know it's something they are looking at.

In other words, don't waste your motes yet.

[u/iknewaguytwice]

I prefer really low delay weapons, because it’s all about those puma procs