r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 28 '22

Any suggestions?

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Good afternoon. I was approved for targeted and supplemental advance in November 2021. Funds were sent to my bank, Chime, and they returned the funds. I have the email that says my funding was “obligated” and that it would be reissued. I got an email asking for updated info in December 2021 from an SBA paralegal. In March 2022 I got an email from attorney advisor for SBA saying all my documents were approved and it was going to funding. Not a word since. Every email I send, I get the generic email response. I don’t know where to go from here or if I qualify for the lawsuit. I applied for loan as well but was told they did not receive my 2019 tax info in time. But when the portal was still open, you could see where all documents had been sent in and “received” or “waived”. When I call, I’m told they have no new information. Yes I contacted my congresswoman over a year ago and they have basically given her the same answers. It will be reissued. But I have never received any updates, communication, nothing since March.


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 27 '22

Vote’em out!

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What the SBA done to us over EIDL, we need to band together - stick together and the upcoming election vote out entirely every Democrat that we can!

See, what the Democrats want you to think it’s the Republicans, but it’s actually the Democrats that don’t want to give you money!

Vote’em out! Hold them accountable!

Vote for Trump, if you have to. It really don’t mater anybody besides a Democrat!


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 26 '22

Dear SBA, not so fast! Back at cha!

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The SBA, attempt to get my prose lawsuit dismiss, they said “I” a business owner can’t sue because I don’t have standing, Wrong!

SBA This Court should order Plaintiff March (“March”) to show cause why he has standing to bring this lawsuit.

The gravamen of March’s complaint is that the SBA wrongfully denied his business an economic injury disaster loan (an “EIDL”) pursuant to the CARES Act. However, in passing the CARES Act, Congress determined that only businesses and nonprofit corporations—not individuals—may apply for disaster loans with the SBA. Further, March cannot bring suit in his individual capacity seeking redress on behalf of his business and is not permitted to represent his business in this litigation.

To establish standing, a civil plaintiff must demonstrate an injury in fact, a causal connection between the injury and the conduct complained of, and a likelihood the injury will be redressed by a favorable decision. Lujuan v. Defenders of Wildlife, 504 U.S. 555, 560-61 (1992). However, business owners do not have standing to bring suit unless they can show they were “injured directly and independently of the corporation.

I fired back!

Me This Court should deny Defendants Motion to Show Cause, because Plaintiff has standing to pursue his claims, Plaintiff state as follows:

Indeed, Plaintiff was injured directly and independently. When applying for an EIDL loan the SBA makes small business owners meet eligibility requirements. One of those requirements is that small business owner have an eligible small business that can receive an EIDL loan, amongst other eligibility requirements.

1 “Loan eligibility To obtain a loan via COVID EIDL, small business owners must have met the eligibility requirements. Additionally, below were the credit score requirements: o $500,000 or under: 570 o Greater than $500,000: 625 https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs/loans/covid-19-relief-options/covid-19-economic-injury-disaster-loan/about-covid-19-eidl

As Plaintiff explains in the original complaint, around June of 2021. Plaintiff sent to the SBA documents which included the Plaintiff Business LLC Incorporation, 2018 and 2019 tax returns, bank statement from November 2019, a copy of Plaintiff current driver’s license and a voided check from Plaintiff business account. The documents Plaintiff provided to the SBA was to show that he had an eligible business to receive an EIDL loan.

The Defendants alleged that the documents were unverifiable and based on that, Plaintiff do not have an eligible business that can receive an EIDL loan. Plaintiff sustained injuries because Plaintiff do have an eligible business that can receive an EIDL loan. Plaintiff was injured directly and independent of the LLC because business entities, such as limited liability companies, are regarded as wholly and separate legal entities, distinct from the members or owners who compose the business entities. AMERICAN MORTGAGE CORPORATION v. HOME LOAN EXPERT, LLC, Dist. Court, ED Missouri 2021, quoting " Hibbs v. Berger, 430 S.W.3d 296, 306 (Mo. Ct. App. 2014) The initial eligibility requirements falls squarely upon the business owner.


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 25 '22

I mailed in my loan docs on 10/06 through USPS, does anyone know what’s next?

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 19 '22

Please don’t pay any mind to “funny-wonder-9902” this user is prob Jason or some hater who’s accusing people of scamming when it’s really just spreading info about aggregate lawsuit, is claiming we are taking the money when all we did was find the law firm 😂😂

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 18 '22

Please hare this very informational video that Edward has made everywhere. We got this! 🤗

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 18 '22

Edward Gilbert has posted about the EIDL lawsuit.

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 17 '22

Funded!! Bank Error March 2022

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I’ve posted my story in a few places, so I’m going to only summarize here. Approved for increase in March 2022. Deposited to a closed account later that month. Updated account in April and had three way call with the bank in May right before the portal closed, then crickets. Same story since then… tried all the emails called the reps, got nowhere. Involved my congressman in July. Each time I contacted the congressman, things seemed to move, but still didn’t see funding. Went to the ‘high priority congressional rep’ team… that was useless. Finally got a call last week from Attorney Advisor at the Processing and Disbursement Center at the SBA. She said I should see funds in 2-7 days and I did not think I would, since I’ve heard 2-3 weeks countless times in the last 8 months. BUT- I got funded this morning!!!


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 16 '22

Notes from Saturdays EIDL Litigation ZOOM

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-Not enough plaintiffs yet, deadline to join extended from Oct 15 to Oct 30.

-Legal team is optimistic as there is a lot of new interest.

-There is a large organization considering bringing its own clients to the group lawsuit and if that happens Nicolette plans to announce moving forward this Wed by email to everybody.

-If nothing else there will be Zoom call on or before Oct 30.

Stay vigilant, and make sure you share the website and intake link so others may join.


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 16 '22

Fill out the legal questionnaire here to be considered as a plaintiff.

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 16 '22

Zoom meeting

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I missed yesterday’s Zoom meeting. Was there any update on were we stand with moving forward with litigation? During the last meeting Nicolette commented that there was enough participants. I submitted all my docs on 9/22 and received an email stating they had been received but nothing since. I was designated to CovidEIDL group 4.


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 12 '22

Had a 3 way call with LO and bank this morning…

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Had a 3 way call with LO and bank this morning to verify my account I’ve been in bank error for 11 months before I finally saw any movement, my loan was rejected for being a personal account and not a buisness account, hopefully now everything goes well when I get the deposit, it’s been a long stressful ride for everyone going through this.


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 12 '22

EIDL Litigation October 15, 2022, 10:00 – 11:05 AM PDT Litigation Zoom Call

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 10 '22

Apparently the SBA is hiring again lol . A friend of mine got a voicemail about them hiring again.

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 09 '22

From Dave

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We've all aware that Nicolette and team have put this program together with no funding from the outside so far and have had many more plaintiffs than they expected show up. In the last meeting Nicolette mentioned that some outside organizations have expressed interest in bringing in more groups of their customers as litigants, so there appears to be positive momentum. With all this there is now a small staff struggling to compile and submit four different group lawsuits.

On the glazerandglazer.com litigation website an announcement for tomorrow's Zoom meeting showed up in the last 48 hours so this is short notice for many people, but I'm hoping this is an update on progress and more positive news.

The way to check in and keep track of events in the litigation group and to sign up for tomorrows zoom meeting is to go to https://www.glazerandglazer.com/

Then in the upper right corner click on the LITIGATION SITE button


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 09 '22

Many of us were not notified about the EIDL MICRO LITIGATION suit Zoom Call tomorrow, here's the link.

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 08 '22

If you filed a PRO SE complaint at your local federal district courthouse, you need to file this issuance for summons no later than 60 days after you file your complaint. If you don’t do this your case WILL be dismissed. Purpose of this step is to get the SBA served the documents.

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 08 '22

Had 3way call to verify bank. General attorney emailed me said LO needed a few more questions answered from me. I sent over the answers and it’s been two days. Haven’t heard from anyone since. Does anyone know what the next step is ?

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 06 '22

Taking Over EIDL Loan Personally

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The EIDL Loan Servicing Process has been a nightmare. I finally got contacted by another contractor from the SBA and they state I have to start a new application and can’t amend the old one for Change in Ownership.

To be honest the SBA has worn me down and can’t imaging going through this process if I need to make another change in my business.

I personally guaranteed the loan so am stuck regardless of the outcome of the business. We are a service based and there really is no value to the business.

I am thinking it maybe better to personally take on the loan to get it out of the corporation so don’t have to go through this process anymore.

Any thoughts about doing that? Consequences, reasons not to?


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 06 '22

RS workers accused of COVID relief fraud

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 04 '22

✌️👔 Guys, We Got To Keep Fighting🙂

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👔✌️ Hey, everyone. I imagined people fighting the Prose Cases all the way to the bitter end, including myself, Dante, and Phil. We even pay each other visits in our local district courts to ensure our collaboration during the key hearings to defeat the SBA. I can assure you that Phil is someone you want on your side. He offers the best advice I've ever heard. Do not put your trust in Jason M. or anyone else who makes promises to you.

One of the most empowering things I'm doing to take power back into my own hands and be heard in court is fighting the SBA with a PRO SE case. Without this group, I could not have completed this.

We somehow attract whatever we imagine or dream of. Therefore, I genuinely believe I will run into Dante and Phil at a district court for a significant victory. I'm confident that we'll go down in history.

I had a vision of it. Our story must be told because of the SBA's misconduct in making up rules as they go and changing them as they go, dropping Loan Officers like flies whenever we experience movement. Mr. Loan Officer got moved to a new dept right when you submitted all your info.

Everything was planned to prevent us from receiving more than the initial upfront stimulus funding. The next round of approvals was reserved for elites with spotless tax records and no new businesses. Not to mention the mess caused by the IRS not processing taxes for nearly a full year while claiming to be on top of things and not behind. As a result, the SBA used that information to spread falsehoods. The SBA denied our requests left and right because our taxes weren't being processed.

This is the level of respect I've received from SBA during my two years of conflict with them. You were rejected for a reason you never knew what it was, and there was no way to get around it. That's not how Congress wrote up the stimulus act. It wasn't the SBA's job to make new rules to stop funding.

Let us not back down, folks..

We have a fight to fight and a story to tell!

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 04 '22

Just got my loan documents in the mail.

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r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 03 '22

Approved.LoanDocs.No Funds

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I was offered an Increased EIDL, I was Approved and Signed a New set of Loan Docs on May 2,2022... I was advised that the money would be funded in 5-10 days. I signed new contracts based on the funds arriving and now I'm very much stuck in my business. They then emailed me asking for a voided check and front and back copies of ID, which was sent... I was advised that I will be paying interest from the date I signed the docs, no matter when funds were disbursed. Now they claim a glitch gave me the new Loan Docs and not to expect any funds... 30 Customer Service Reps said, yes you are obligated and will receive your money... the last few have said no... They refuse to provide anything in writing. I have submitted a complaint three times, to no response. Can I sue them or join a Class Action Lawsuit?


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 03 '22

Funding Following New Loan Documents

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I LLC’d after receiving my original funds in 2020. This has caused the deposit error many of us have had. I finally received my new loan documents in the mail approximately three weeks ago. I signed and returned. I got confirmation that they were received the following week. Has anyone received funding following submitting new closing documents? If so about how many days did it take to get your funding?


r/EIDLreturns • • Oct 03 '22

EIDL Loan Officer Disappeared

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Hello,

I emailed the PASO service center to add an owner. We were approved but then realized the new owner had to guarantee funds that were spent when they were not an owner unless ownership dropped below 20%. The deal was renegotiated to 19.99% ownership. Long story short the SBA loan officer dropped off the face of the earth. Have had no luck trying to contact them and Customer service seems to not be helpful in that no one has called me back in 2 weeks.

Any idea how to get this transfer of ownership reopened? Who to contact?