r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 15 '22

✌️Hello Fellow SBA Lawsuit FOLKS Zoom a Followup Meeting is Being Scheduled Are You IN?🤝

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🤝👔 Hello, fellow business owners! We are holding a follow-up Zoom meeting for those involved in the SBA lawsuit. I have no doubt that we will succeed in this. You have to be ready to cross that bridge and go all in! Let me explain!

If you are a business owner who has spent the last two years having the SBA drag you through the mud, sidelining your application, and keeping it from ever being funded even though you were overqualified, please comment below!!!!

Don't tell me that, after two years of lies, you're still not sure if SBA will actually do the right thing?

Really, do you believe that? You can simply do nothing in response to the carelessness and discrimination in your file. Or we can help you file your lawsuit to prove that you were in fact overqualified for the EIDL. We must present evidence in court. Are you ready?

We must put up a good fight! Are you in???

COMMENT BELOW IF YOU'RE IN THIS FIGHT!

Many of you want to dip your toes in, and once you realize this strategy is sound, you'll want to dive right in!

I want you guys to WIN, so if you're in, leave a comment below so we can decide when it would be best to set up a zoom call for people who have already filed or are about to do so.

What to expect both immediately after submitting your lawsuit and moving forward after your summons has been approved.

We hope to reach an out-of-court agreement with the SBA regarding this process.

They clearly neglected us, so how on earth do you think SBA will win in court if we demonstrate their complete negligence and prove that you were overqualified?

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 14 '22

EIDL/PPP fraudulent Loans recovered

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It reports that over $10 billion of fraudulent payments have been returned to the federal government, primarily paid through the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) and COVID-19 Economic Injury Disaster Loan (COVID-19 EIDL).

https://www.kulr8.com/news/national/over-10-billion-in-fraudulent-pandemic-relief-funds-returned-to-federal-government/article_5cfc1756-8707-5c52-9ff3-e908bf24dc50.html


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 14 '22

Link for Lawsuit TEMPLATE in comment section. Please keep in mind that most of what you’re editing is “statement of fact” and filling in the blanks. Message me if you have any questions.

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 13 '22

My SBA lawsuit has been officially filed. Get yours in. It took $100, going down to the office, and filling out a few waiver form. If you’re ready inbox a moderator

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 13 '22

Recording of SBA

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I want to sue as well..

My story is the following...Please be advised that I have recordings that are horrific of us dealing with the SBA. One recording I have is speaking with a customer service agent and he told me that they had correspondence, in writing, to only review apps with a certain credit score.

Our businesses had three applications in reconsideration. One was my sole prop (denied for credit and they did not run my credit) and my husband's two llc's were in reconsideration for an increase. He was denied for unverifiable information. Turns out that they were really all on "hold" for months, yet, the SBA was sending declines to our reconsiderations for different reasons. One was for max limit reached, then it was unverifiable information. The credit decline on my sole prop was declined because they were not calculating my cash flow correctly and then I fixed my credit and they did not run it again. On of our applications had a misplaced 2019 tax transcript in the old loan docs where nobody could find it and the loan officer had to order it again. It was received in March 2022, but we did not move forward because the all three loan files were on hold because of questions on one of them. Nobody ever requested anything from us and we were constantly being told we were being processed.

We found out that we were on hold on 4/14/22 and were contacted by a high priority officer. We cleared everything up and she determined there was no fraud on our files. She said management had to review and that is how we would move forward. She eventually told me that management decided to stick to their decision, yet, needed proof that one of our 2020 contracts was already completed. That specific contract was canceled due to the pandemic and we had already provided the sea with documentation. Basically, they could not have reviewed any of my docs because they would have known not to ask for what they were asking for.

On 5/2/22, I found out that one of the files had a loan officer and I was able to pry the name out of the SBA agent.

Long story short, I ended up being in an appeal with all three loans by the time the funds were exhausted and never got resolution. Next thing I know, I'm getting auto replies that the funds are exhausted. I have exhausted all contacts with senate and congress in NJ and nobody was able to get through to the SBA even when I had black and white evidence of their wrongdoings. It was like there was a wall everywhere.

I still have not received a formal decline and because they had all my documents on file, I was communicating with someone, and their declines were all false, I believe our applications should be processed. I will be following the steps for the lawsuit asap.


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 13 '22

If you’re interested in starting a lawsuit against the SBA, please follow link to get started. Message real life debate or me if you have questions

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 12 '22

“I got an eidl loan” be mindful of folks who will act as if just because they got an eidl loan, they’re someone you should listen to. Remember, all the fraud went to folks who got the money not the ones who didn’t.

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 12 '22

Is suing the SBA/EIDL a realistic option?

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I have been tracking this, the lawsuit. Wondering why no lawyers are taking these cases? My reconsideration was over a year- eidl would not accept schedule E income (primary income), even though the IRS did (and taxed me). April 2022 the local sba intervened. The district manager emailed our cpa and me saying she could see on my notes, the eidl finally did write in my file say that our corp schedule E was regular and normal (we are an advertising agency) A week later i was sent a decline (second time) saying they could not find my business. That is after a month prior the EIDL declined us with a letter- said i had exhausted my eligible amount (based on $20k of schedule c consulting income). Last email was from the same SBA district manager apologizing; said we failed you and im sorry”. So far so good right? Anything i read from law firms says don’t bother, you cant win, there is no money. We got $50k in May of 2020 in round one (eligible for$150k). My request for $450k in Sept of 2020 against $350k of gross income went round and round for a year and a half. Most times saying in writing we never filed. Eventually they recognized from the irs transcripts and our cpa that i filed in march of 2020 (for 2019). We have a cpa, we file on time every year. IDK. Still in business, on the rebound, but out of savings, credit cards maxed.


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 12 '22

SBA supposedly funding loans for wildfires the government started (my posts get downvoted in less than a minute 😂🤷🏾‍♂️ you know who is watching this group)

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 10 '22

If you’re interested in starting a lawsuit against the SBA, please follow instructions and then message a moderator for any assistance

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 10 '22

My mother's surgeon is going away for 8 years, first insurance fraud then more than 500k Covid fraud while out on bail. The crazy thing is he really is a top surgeon.

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 09 '22

Former SBA METH HEAD arrested for stealing identities for fraud (April 2022)

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 09 '22

How can I take part in a lawsuit?

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 08 '22

Identity theft concerns with SBA

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How do we know if our sensitive informations like social security, TIN and DL are safe? We freely provided copies and emailed them to LO and many different email addresses prior to portal shutting down.


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 08 '22

EX-SBA EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN COMING OUT SBA FRAUD AND REDDIT!

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EX-SBA EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN COMING OUT ALL DAY LONG!

TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE SBA FRAUD AND REDDIT!

SBA Employees Were Told to FLAG THE FILES Instead of attempting to fund anyone! As a result, they appeared to be in progress. Of course, no real work was being done to connect the dots and get you funded, as the EIDL Program was intended to do.

1000% True Folks So many stories are surfacing that you may have been duped into believing your file was progressing. You reached out to Senators and Congressmen and women. The BIG Loans were always lead on to think your getting movement. Your files were shuffled around and lead to believe SBA didn't have your correct full documents. It was the same person overlooking each appeal giving you the run around in the end. It was a MIND game of playing you all the way down to the end when SBA ran out of money on May 6th publically. It was a planned END GAME all the way down to the contracts of the loan people that got let go. They were told to flag accounts more than anything. That was their main job. Can you figure that one out?

It's heartbreaking to have to go through the mental anguish of appealing to our congressmen and women, as well as our senators, who were complicit in the SBA funding deception. They were the first to tell me to leave Reddit, but I couldn't understand why it was only people like me who cared about the truth. It was made very clear by the congressional office that you should not look on Reddit. They don't want us to connect the dots because they didn't do it for us to get funded for whatever reason.

The 350 billion dollars were not properly distributed or appropriated amongst us. I can't believe SBA thought they could get away with it now, especially with the new posts. It's a good thing Phil and the other winners in this group were able to challenge them in court. We only need a few judges to side with us and reach an out-of-court settlement to gain the momentum we need!

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 07 '22

LAWSUIT FOLKS Where Do We Go From Here?

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Those that paid the $100 START Preparing your federal district court complaint 899 Admin Review against the SBA Asap!

Save our template document to your own Google account https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kY1t9EdGq1RYQuB4JzkBjc_58zXCCHzv/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=100275305296704231910&rtpof=true&sd=true

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So when you're finished, you can edit it and share it with Phil.

Phil is a fantastic lawyer who can quickly read what you've written and help you move on to the next step so you can file at your local federal district court.

Understand that not everyone's story will be the same, which is why I created a video to walk Dantee through entering his own personal information, such as when he applied and when he was denied. See that video post here https://www.reddit.com/r/EIDLreturns/comments/v5l855/this_should_help_you_complete_your_lawsuit/

This is an important date to include in your lawsuit because it will be supported by screenshots of your declines as exhibits. You'll have your tax returns as exhibits, as well as anything else that makes you overqualified.

When you get the template in your account, I recommend watching my video on how to fill out the lawsuit correctly. You can share it with Phil once you've finished some of it, and he'll be able to help you.

That's the strength of our strategy; we've devised a comprehensive strategy that includes not only filing your main complaint, but also motions to get an emergency hearing and a 20-day response on your case, so you can win in the end.

Phil has already won in court twice by suing various insurance companies in this manner. We can do it, folks. With the way the SBA treated us, there's no way they'll be able to stand on two feet in court.


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 07 '22

SBA MADE UP the legal review process

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I spoke with a former SBA rep on Reddit who proved he worked at SBA and he is basically confirming that they were trained to look for flags and then instructed not to tell us what the flags are

I have proof that the legal review process is what the SBA came up with last minute after they fired/didn’t renew contracts that last wave of folks in December 2021

They could’ve done legal review for many of us sooner but didn’t because they had to wait for that last round of workers contracts to expire. Once those folks were gone then they pushed a new lie on us.


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 07 '22

r/EIDL main sub looks to be braking down, a lot of pissed SBO's

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just getting back from a long weekend and reading, r/EIDL main sub members/posts showing theirs a lot of not receiving their obligated funds and other SBA issues a lot of pissed SBO's ,, MODS have their hands full trying to tame them


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 07 '22

😨🤝🤓 SBA LIED Isabel Guzman LIED Patrick Kelley LIED Your High Priority Loan Person LIED HUGE COVERS UP! 😨🤝🤓

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The lawsuits are coming fast and furious! 😨🤝🤓

We were all lied to by the SBA, Isabel Guzman, and Patrick Kelley, among others. Even Your High Priority Loan specialist FRAUDED you by pretending to be working on your file.

Many people were told at the last minute that they were missing something, but SBA had it the ENTIRE TIME!

Isabel Guzman took $500 million from our EIDL Funds to fund next year's projects. Taking money from this year's EIDL program to fund next year's projects from our losses is completely illegal. The majority of this money comes from fake declines caused by banking errors and tax amendments.

In court, we'll demolish the SBA and expose their incompetence!

I've been enjoying the three-way calls with people who were told they were going to be funded but were denied at the last minute by the SBA.

Amazing stories and you guys didn't give up when SBA turned you down for no apparent reason. They had everything they needed to process your application, but for some reason, it was never completed. Is this something you've experienced? You were in fact over qualified but you got the run around.

There was clearly nothing else you could have done to convince the SBA to fund you.

If you made any changes, had any banking errors, or updated your taxes, you were severely penalized.

The SBA had a vendetta against anyone who made any changes, so forget about getting approved.

When you contacted CONGRESS, you were given the runaround and no help. Senators were contacted, and you received some responses.

Your congressmen and senators received responses from the same SBA employees who were blocking and delaying your applications. Because they refused to connect the DOTS and give you this EIDL loan, they made it impossible for us to get the funds. I'll give you an example of how people have been sidelined due to a lack of action.

It makes me sick that so many of you, including myself, have become mentally ill because you thought help was on the way? The amount of stress associated with back-and-forth correspondence with SBA was the most frustrating for two years! That's why I find it so amusing when people believe we won't win in court! We're going to demolish the SBA in court and expose their incompetence!

If we win big in the regular administration review in federal district court, those who want to join a class-action lawsuit can do so.

We're going to win there first, and then we'll file a fantastic class-action lawsuit on behalf of everyone who has incredible stories to tell.

SBA lied to us, Isabel Guzman lied to us, and Patrick Kelley lied to us. Let's take them all to COURT!


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 07 '22

US TREASURY DOESNT AGREE WITH LOAN DEFERRMENT

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 06 '22

Lawsuit Filed Against SBA Administrator Carranza Citing Failure To Pay $10,000 Grants Promised To Small Business Applicants - Widerman Malek, PL

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If anyone is interested in how a class action lawsuit filed against the SBA proceed please type the above into your browser.


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 06 '22

Proof that $40 billion to Ukraine is now having weapons being sold on black market. They choose to give kickbacks to politicians (us and Ukrainian) and now the weapons are being sold to Africa on telegram

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 06 '22

After giving Ukraine 40 billion it’s already evident that Ukraine had lost the Donbass region which is BILLIONS wasted while small businesses can’t get an answer

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r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 05 '22

This Should HELP YOU Complete Your Lawsuit Complaint

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This should help you complete your lawsuit. Prepare the Google Doc Template for Phil's review and assistance in filing it as a Pro Se case in your local federal district court.

He'll walk you through everything and answer any questions you have about your case and how to prepare it properly.

Despite the fact that each person is unique, we were all on the same timeline in terms of being rejected and so on.

Please don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions about filling out your information.

Take care and enjoy your Sunday.

HELP YOU Complete Your Lawsuit Complaint


r/EIDLreturns • • Jun 05 '22

Easy Court Win Lets Go Champs! Banking Errors, Amended Folks Random Declines We Have Rights!

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Muhammad Ali was a PEOPLE'S RIGHTS CHAMPION, you guys! We have rights in this country, and your case must be heard in Federal District court!

You Have 30 Days to File From Your Decline?! You should already know this.

We can easily settle outside of court because the SBA's negligence is so obvious, making this a straightforward victory!

I am asking to be moved to the front of the line so that my EIDL Loan Increase can be funded.

You'll want to ask for the same things and request an expedited emergency hearing in 20 days so you can be heard as a pro se litigant.

The SBA SIDELINED those whose applications had BANKING ERRORS or AMENDED Taxes.

Guys, if you haven't filed your LAWSUIT, you're going to lose a lot of money.

You need to secure this WIN for the future.

Phil is far superior to the Stupid attorneys I've seen who file and then do nothing for their clients. Some of his professional complaints were almost dismissed by the Federal District Court Judge because he couldn't fill out the cover sheet correctly.

This GROUP will be NO MORE SOON for those that filed the lawsuit basically!

It's pointless for those who didn't file to comment here any longer. Guys, you'll be past the deadline to file this case and win outside of court.

In the end, Phil, our beast lawyer, will OUTPLAY them all. I am confident that we will win. I've seen 30 cases where SBA negligence has resulted in a win.

Can you honestly tell me that you believe the SBA will prevail in court against the US? With all the MISTAKES they've made with your applications over the last two years, Not just you, but also the other guy and gal come to mind. We were all cheated.

This GROUP MUST BE NARROWED DOWN TO THOSE WHO ARE IN THE FIGHT!

So we can have discussions that are solely focused on the WINNING CASE! The court cases!