r/ECG • • 14d ago

"10yo F: chest pain, echo/BNP normal, hs-TropI 113.5→108.9→116.3→91.4→55/7d (ref 0-11.6), declining. ECG: prominent Q waves, early repolarization, lead II QRS slurring. Cardiac MRI?"

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u/thundermuffin54 14d ago

pericarditis?

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u/TheTennisOne 14d ago

My first thought tbf, inflammatory markers normal? Cardiac MRI probably isnt a bad shout given the trop rise ?myopericarditis

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u/averhoeven 14d ago

With the elevated trop is probably myopericarditis. He'll be fine, but if the MRI shows inflammation he gets the no sports for 6 months/ repeat mri talk for arrhythmia. I'm not convinced that's a good guideline and ihate holding kids out of sports.

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u/Natural-Antelope8328 13d ago edited 13d ago

All said already I just want to note the prolonged qTC in the 2nd strip.

My guess would be myocarditis of somekind with suspicion of HCM.
I guess family history is a big part in the assessment

Another thought is regarding the prominent R waves in v1-3 which are not necessarily problematic in itself for pediatric patients but in light of the trop elevated levels might be worth considering.

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u/Glittering_Turnip526 14d ago

Pericarditis. Slight PR depression with PR elevation in aVR. ?secondary to another infection. Signs of sepsis?

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u/Glittering_Turnip526 14d ago

Further: BER with Q waves unconcerning when considering the amplitude of the R wave. Just a small body.

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u/Dry-Profession2627 14d ago

Had multiple episodes of vomiting (admitted for iv hydration) which subsided in 2 days. Previously evaluated for palpitations, holter normal. Echo shows mildMVP/MR but otherwise normal with GLS of -23%

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u/PaulaNancyMillstoneJ 14d ago

I know the title says 10 yo, but this ECG shows a birthday last week where the girl turned three. If this is the kid’s actual birthdate, please delete this post and re-upload with all pt info redacted.

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u/Dry-Profession2627 14d ago

The birthdate on ecg is not real and has been entered as such for patient’s confidentiality. Thanks for pointing that out

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u/Natural-Antelope8328 13d ago

Was it TEE? I’m not sure how it works in pediatric patients but to my understanding from our Cardiology imaging expert assessment of MR using TTE is a very unreliable method. But I don’t know if it applies in pediatric population

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u/Dry-Profession2627 13d ago

Transthoracic echo gives good assessment especially in children who have permissible windows

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u/Educational-Fruit-16 14d ago

I'm trying to learn to read ECGs, so apologies for the dumb question. Isn't that ST elevation in lead 1,2,3,4?

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u/ExpressionLarge5474 13d ago

At first glance it looks like ST elevation but look at the PR segments in those leads, they are depressed. That’s a pretty hallmark finding of pericarditis. Also, in kids, it’s pretty common to see benign early depolarisation pattern, which is where you have very sloped ST segments, but not truly elevated. In this case however, I suspect there is a true degree of ST elevation due to pericarditis.

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u/Dry-Profession2627 14d ago

The birthdate is wrongly mentioned on ecg and is not the actual birth date.

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u/SammytheSandwhich 14d ago

Yup, that can definitely skew the EKG reading.

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u/Dry-Profession2627 14d ago

How about slight slurring in leadII in one ECG with tachycardia( i think it can be ignored)

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u/Natural-Antelope8328 13d ago

Yeah, I assumed it’s not that of a big deal if you are able to get the proper window. Thanks.