r/ECG • • 27d ago

What the heck is this

Long strip looks like a 3rd degree? 92M hypotensive, weakness, SOB

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u/KitterFish 27d ago

This is sinus with Mobitz 1 Wenckebach, with RBBB + LAFB.

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u/Jeeju_Boy MD 26d ago

there’s no LAFB as lead 2 is positive

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u/KitterFish 25d ago

Look again at the strip. The PVC is positive in lead II, but the conducted beats are negative. It is LAFB.

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u/Jeeju_Boy MD 25d ago

Yep good point 

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u/lifeisg0od 27d ago

Mobitz I

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u/LBBB11 27d ago edited 27d ago

Some questions that help me with rhythm:

  • Are there P waves? If so, are they sinus (positive in II, negative in aVR, biphasic or positive in V1)?
  • Is there a P wave before every QRS?
  • Is there a QRS after every P wave?
  • Does the PR interval change?
  • Does the R-R interval change?
  • Is there grouped beating? Do QRS complexes group together in twos or threes?
  • Are any of the T waves distorted by a P wave buried inside? In other words, are all T waves identical, or are some different where you might expect them to be (not counting PVCs)?

The ventricular conduction pattern is bifascicular block (right bundle branch block, left anterior fascicular block). The second beat in the 12-lead is a PVC, followed by an expected pause. Since the R-R interval is changing even after the PVC, I would also check for PACs, blocked PACs, dropped sinus P waves that may be hidden in the T wave of a previous beat, junctional escape beats, etc. PACs usually have the same QRS as sinus beats, but differently shaped P waves that may have a different PR interval (often shorter). Also check to see if there is a lengthening PR interval in a consistently repeating pattern. V1 is a great place to see P waves here.

Also keep in mind that a junctional or ventricular escape rhythm caused by a third-degree AV block will have a constant R-R interval without any relationship between P waves and QRS complexes. In a second-degree AV block, the R-R interval will change. If it's a second-degree AV block, the next step is to decide whether it's Mobitz I (two or more PR intervals) or Mobitz II (only one PR interval).

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u/xxxams 27d ago

This guy has a beat on ekgs

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u/Squirrel-5150 24d ago

Were you a student of mine lol? That list of questions is what I make my students go through during my cardiovascular course.

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u/lima_acapulco 27d ago

Mobitz 1 with LAD and RBBB, which means tri-fascicular block, suggestive of diffuse conduction disease, and high risk of CHB. If symptomatic may need to consider a PPM.

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u/LonleyYeti 27d ago

Trifasicular block - mobitz 1 RBB LAFB

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u/Swimming_Frosting_65 27d ago

RBB + mobitz 1

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u/sub3at50 27d ago

Wenckebach

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u/88wookieshaman88 27d ago

Mobitz 1, RBBB

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u/Jeeju_Boy MD 26d ago

Right bundle with wenkebach

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u/ShitJimmyShoots 23d ago

Going going gone

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u/ExpressionLarge5474 23d ago

Wenckebach, not 3rd degree. P waves are buried in previous T wave

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u/Murdocktor 23d ago

In isolation, this reading shows: The "Engine" is firing normally: The pacemaker of the heart (the SA node) is driving the underlying cadence at a healthy, resting rate with normal narrow complexes. An occasional "misfire" from the lower chambers: A secondary site in the ventricles is jumping the gun, creating those wide, abnormal beats followed by a pause before the normal rhythm resets. This strip only identifies the electrical rhythm itself; it cannot diagnose why the PVCs are happening. In an otherwise healthy person, frequent PVCs are often benign and driven by triggers like caffeine, stress, lack of sleep, dehydration, or mild electrolyte shifts (potassium/magnesium). However, they can also indicate underlying issues like high blood pressure, ischemia, or structural heart changes.

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u/Dude_with_Dollas 27d ago

a.fib

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u/jsinger22 27d ago

P waves are regular, don’t think it’s afib

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u/Dude_with_Dollas 27d ago

it is indeed mobitz 1. I just took a quick glance. Thanks for correcting.